Circle Hook Gut - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

zimmy · 03-30-2011, 12:12 PM

I have experienced gut hooks on my friends boat with circle hooks. I never saw this or experienced while surf fishing bat, but I have repeatedly seen/caught bass gut hooked while chunking from his boat. True circle hooks 5/0-9/0. Anyone else ever see this or have an idea wth is up?

JLH · 03-30-2011, 12:19 PM

Were they offset circle hooks? Using the in line circles I rarely guy hook fish while fishing bait from the boat but offset circles seem to be just as bad as standard hooks.

zimmy · 03-30-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JLH

Were they offset circle hooks? Using the in line circles I rarely guy hook fish while fishing bait from the boat but offset circles seem to be just as bad as standard hooks.

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Originally Posted by zimmy

True circle hooks 5/0-9/0.

not offset

Sea Flat · 03-30-2011, 12:54 PM

Not knowing you or how you fish my guess is that you let the fish run with the bait a bit long after he picked up the bait. However, from time to time a fish will pick up bait and get it down its throat really quick. This has only happened to me one time in many years though. I would think if it is a common occurrence for you then you may be letting the fish take the bait too long before lifting up on her.

thefishingfreak · 03-30-2011, 04:24 PM

Use a bigger chunk. The whole pogie head. Anything that will eat that and get gut hooked you can cram your fist down it's throat and unhook.
Problem solved
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FishermanTim · 03-30-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Use a bigger chunk. The whole pogie head. Anything that will eat that and get gut hooked you can cram your fist down it's throat and unhook.
Problem solved
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I like your train of thought......

MarkB · 03-30-2011, 04:50 PM

When using circle hooks, you need to keep slack out of the line. When the fish takes the bait, don't try to set the hook - just hold firm. As the fish pulls away from the taut line, it should lip-hook itself. If you give them slack, they have time to swallow the bait, no matter what kind of hook it is.

MikeToole · 03-30-2011, 05:50 PM

I have experienced a few deep hooks fishing eels when I used the Gama circles. Some times the fish just gulp them down. Don't remember when was the last time I deep hooked a fish using J hooks.

Switched over to Eagle Claw 2004ELFS circle hook for bait and livebunker and haven't had a deep hook in years. Use the Mustad 39950BL circle hook with eels and no deep hooks but missing more fish. Switched back to Mustad 94150 J hook with eels and no deep hooks.

SweetD · 03-31-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkB

When using circle hooks, you need to keep slack out of the line. When the fish takes the bait, don't try to set the hook - just hold firm. As the fish pulls away from the taut line, it should lip-hook itself. If you give them slack, they have time to swallow the bait, no matter what kind of hook it is.

Agree 100%. Seen this happen to my buddy a couple of times last year - let the fish run waaaaaayyy to long with slack / freespool. Result was gut-hooked. Shouldn't happen if you are doing it as described above...

zimmy · 03-31-2011, 01:12 PM

The thing about slack... these fish were caught on hand held rods or rods in a rod holder on a boat. They didn't run any longer than it takes to pick up the rod and engage the drag. They were typically gami's so maybe there is something to that. I think gut hooked would be better described as deep hooked. Not really in the gut, but not in the lip either. I have fished circles on and off for more than 10 years from shore and can't think of one time I had a fish deep hooked. The difference may very well be that the time it take to get the rod is long enough in clicker-controlled free spool for it to be an issue. When I use them in the surf, I have the drag engaged.

stripermaineiac · 03-31-2011, 11:29 PM

Offset or wide gap circle hooks are just as bad and at times worse than J and octopus hooks as far as hooking a fish deep. I use only straight ones . They even work great catching stripers slinging eels.You just need to learn how to use them.Takes a little practice but trust me it does make a difference especially releasing a lip or jaw hooked fish.