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Old 04-28-2011, 07:44 PM   #1
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I'm with frank

Just got done reading frank daignaults article in the fisherman... I must say I agree with everything he says... We all need to do or part snap a pic and gently place back. Let's stop putting a bounty on their head and celebrate their release.. Agree or disagree

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Old 04-28-2011, 07:53 PM   #2
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I agree and I am 99.9% C&R

I haven't kept a fish in 3 years

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Old 04-28-2011, 07:55 PM   #3
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I kept three last year.. Not ging to do it this year... I fell in love with scup
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:07 PM   #4
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Agreed. I don't eat fish but I'll keep one for a cookout on occasion. Maybe one or 2 a year but it has to be between 32 - 36".

I have no problem with fish going to the table nor do I have a problem with com rod and reel guys. I'm not at all a fan of weigh in tournaments, but that's my opinion. To each his own.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:13 PM   #5
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What is the best range to keep? Is there one?
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:23 PM   #6
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best range to keep? 18" - 20"; if they got hooked in the gills and are bleeding bad. Who the heck wants to eat an old lady?!

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Old 04-29-2011, 12:43 AM   #7
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I don't always eat fish, but when I do I eat cod.




Who am I kidding I pretty much eat them all, no blues though.
But I keep about 4 bass a year for my parents, they love them and anything they want I will try and get them.

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Old 04-29-2011, 06:18 AM   #8
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Daignault preaching C&R now is right up there with Michael Vick advocating for animal rights.......... although maybe that is a bit unfair to Vick.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:24 AM   #9
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Daignault preaching C&R now is right up there with Michael Vick advocating for animal rights.......... although maybe that is a bit unfair to Vick.


I have yet to read what Frank wrote ,,,
But George U R 2 Funny , sounds a little like Flaptail
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:43 AM   #10
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Daignault preaching C&R now is right up there with Michael Vick advocating for animal rights.......... although maybe that is a bit unfair to Vick.
Well put, numbskull. I think every picture I've ever seen of him shows him dragging a bass out of the water or up the beach with his hand firmly planted up under the gill plate. I doubt he was planning on releasing any of those fish.

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Old 04-29-2011, 09:52 AM   #11
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Daignault preaching C&R now is right up there with Michael Vick advocating for animal rights.......... although maybe that is a bit unfair to Vick.
How many guys on this site used to fish for dough? I think there are several who have said they don't think killing all these large is good. I think anyone who sees the errors of their past weighs (sic) and stands up to say it is wrong deserves some credit.

Also, Vick stopped cause he got caught in an illegal act. Daignault and everyone else were doing what was legal. I think alot of them really believed that their catches were too insignificant to wreck the population. Now they know that they were wrong.

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Old 04-29-2011, 01:20 PM   #12
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Daignault preaching C&R now is right up there with Michael Vick advocating for animal rights.......... although maybe that is a bit unfair to Vick.

The aforementioned individual is not wholey responsible for 60"s and 70's rape of the commercial striped bass fishery, and the rec. striped bass fishery, but he is in the top ten.

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Old 04-29-2011, 07:49 PM   #13
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Daignault preaching C&R now is right up there with Michael Vick advocating for animal rights.......... although maybe that is a bit unfair to Vick.
yep...good comparison as well, as they both have dog abuse in their background.

on a side note, C&R = yep, unless they gonna die anyways.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:32 AM   #14
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best range to keep? 18" - 20"; if they got hooked in the gills and are bleeding bad. Who the heck wants to eat an old lady?!

Steve
maybe best eating but larger is better for the population. Ensures that they have had a chance to breed a few times.
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Old 04-29-2011, 06:56 AM   #15
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I'll keep them when I feel like keeping them and I'll release them when I feel like releasing them.


and don't need to feel guilty with either choice

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Old 04-29-2011, 07:28 AM   #16
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I'll keep them when I feel like keeping them and I'll release them when I feel like releasing them.


and don't need to feel guilty with either choice
Of course that assumes you catch 1 to begin with

My general trend, is obviously dead, severly gut hooked fish come home, the rest go back. this ammounted to ~3 fish last year. I can live with that

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Old 04-29-2011, 08:11 AM   #17
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Of course that assumes you catch 1 to begin with

Well, Yeah...That's a given.

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Old 04-30-2011, 09:11 AM   #18
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I'll keep them when I feel like keeping them and I'll release them when I feel like releasing them.


and don't need to feel guilty with either choice
I'm a keep your interpretation of ethics outa my fishing kinda guy myself. If I'm having a good time, don't waltz up and try to spoil it for me. I'm with Dad. I fish within the rules.

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Old 04-29-2011, 07:34 AM   #19
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i do get a kick of frankie d advocating c +r. saw his name on many a slip.
i do agree on the keep one for the table thou.

put them back alive. i do have grandkids.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:48 AM   #20
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I agree with his article and I am generally a fan of his, but I remember just a few years back he was saying that the poeple crying decline were just in if for themselves and that the fishing was better than ever. I'm glad to see he has switched his point of view...

It is also kind of ironic how he is basically calling out the striper cup for allowing comms to fish it and the whole bit, yet, it is modeled after the Schafer Cup, which, if I'm not mistaken, he WON bunch of times, most likely as a comm...
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:06 AM   #21
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i love the part were he says that the atlantic fishieries managment should take over protecting the seals that way they wouls be gone........

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Old 04-29-2011, 11:52 AM   #22
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I kinda think Frank is too old to care too much about catching big fish. He's been there and done that.
I also think we give ourselves too much credit sometimes for population changes. Why are striped bass any different than rabbits or other animals whose population changes based on a whole bunch of variables. All the famous bass clubs closed more than 100 years ago because stripers were scarce, do you think the few thousand people fishing recreationally then caused that collapse?
After that bunch of BS I need to admit that I keep few fish and do think we should limit our catch, not catch our limit.

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Old 04-29-2011, 12:17 PM   #23
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Last year, I put in zero effort (Had gotten married and just bought a house). Had maybe 20 keepers for the year, and kept 3. Percentage is really high due to not all that many fish caught (didn't fish many nights)

Year before I had at least 150 bass. Again, I kept 3. (2%)

I think that is reasonable.

C&R is the key to sustainability, along with preserving big baitfish like herring and bunker.

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Old 04-29-2011, 01:58 PM   #24
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FD's article was not on conservation. it was on his assessment of the decline in stocks based on the large numbers of large fish over 50 caught the last few years and the similarities with the decline before the moratorium. No different than what Clammer, Piemma, Nebe, RIR and other old timers () have been saying for the last few years.

he attributed the ongoing decline to what I posted earlier on. He was not preaching conservation, just stating his assement which has been shared by many on this board.

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Old 04-29-2011, 07:41 PM   #25
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if those more fortunate then you would stop being gluttons then those like you wouldn't be stereo typed. I got into an all out fist fight with a guy last year...bag full of stripers mostly shirts about ten of them... He was a little guy but I won by 200 yards
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:44 PM   #26
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you sould fry scup. Its better
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:26 AM   #27
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While i dont agree with the 2 @ 28, it is the law and im not going to say anything to people that take their 2 fish. 3 fish, then we have a talk, but 2 is the rule.

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Old 04-30-2011, 11:40 AM   #28
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I have to believe that a lot of those people who are 100% C&R or 99.999 whateva, don't love to eat fish or associate with people who love to eat fish...as much as those of us who feel this way, it doesn't mean that we're not concerned or anti-conservative,...to make a "blanket" statement like,...
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...if the fish hit the freezer then you know you are taking too many...
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Some people would rather buy their nice and clean fish fillets at the market on the day that they plan on eating it, I don't mind getting my hands dirty, I enjoyed the last bag of striper fillets that I thawed out last month, where's the gluttony in that??...and it's a nice feeling knowing that YOU put food on the table, for yourself and others...literally. I don't know...this is a point-less debate for me. For the most part, on days that I catch my limit and plan on keeping it,,,I catch MUCH more than 2 legal fish...again, not chest pounding, but anyone that can consistently catch fish, knows that on days that you catch...you CATCH..(if that makes any sense)

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Old 04-30-2011, 11:48 AM   #29
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I don't understand what the freezer has to do with anything. I have a foodsaver vacuum sealer. I made a striper casserole last week and when I opened that bag it was just like I put it in there. It was awesome and it brought me back. Nothing like it during the winter months.


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Old 04-30-2011, 04:16 PM   #30
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I have to believe that a lot of those people who are 100% C&R or 99.999 whateva, don't love to eat fish or associate with people who love to eat fish...as much as those of us who feel this way, it doesn't mean that we're not concerned or anti-conservative,...to make a "blanket" statement like,...... ...Seriously???

Some people would rather buy their nice and clean fish fillets at the market on the day that they plan on eating it, I don't mind getting my hands dirty, I enjoyed the last bag of striper fillets that I thawed out last month, where's the gluttony in that??...and it's a nice feeling knowing that YOU put food on the table, for yourself and others...literally. I don't know...this is a point-less debate for me. For the most part, on days that I catch my limit and plan on keeping it,,,I catch MUCH more than 2 legal fish...again, not chest pounding, but anyone that can consistently catch fish, knows that on days that you catch...you CATCH..(if that makes any sense)

..not making any personal attacks, sorry if it reads that way...like I said, "to each his own".

Believe me If I ate fish I would be filling my freezer, no one in my house eats fish except my wife and she would rather have Blue fish so That's what I take home if she wants it, also when Me and my family is on Vacation on the cape Fish come home for at least one meal

Gut hooked or dying fish come home also, I believe people fishing with in the law are just fine, Places I fish I don't see anyone taking more then they are aloud

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