Commercial bass closing tmr? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

FISHING_FOOL · 08-09-2011, 08:06 PM

I was just told that commercial bass closes tmr? Is this true?

niko · 08-09-2011, 08:09 PM

WESTPORTMAFIA · 08-09-2011, 08:15 PM

Its open all day tomorrow.
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FISHING_FOOL · 08-09-2011, 08:29 PM

Just excellent..... Havent had a good year by any means, just dumped a pile of $ in the boat and got it going today and now.....

niko · 08-09-2011, 09:01 PM

why don't you get a real job

- professional student is not a career. go get me some pogies

FISHING_FOOL · 08-09-2011, 09:07 PM

Hey, hey, hey I'll have gradumacated in 3 years! Just getting smaaat... Yes I have the pogies

big jay · 08-09-2011, 10:01 PM

Only 17 days this season (4 of which were 5 fish Sundays).

$4 gas and lower prices than last year kept many guys home, yet the quota was caught faster than ever.

Slinger · 08-09-2011, 11:14 PM

Check the numbers, as of 5 this morning the quota was only at 65%! Could be that they want to get an accurate count???

Raider Ronnie · 08-10-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Slinger

Check the numbers, as of 5 this morning the quota was only at 65%! Could be that they want to get an accurate count???

Bingo
Quota not close to full and behind schedule compared to most years.

numbskull · 08-10-2011, 05:55 AM

Just asking, what percent of the fish taken so far do people estimate came from Chatham?

inTHERAPY · 08-10-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Just asking, what percent of the fish taken so far do people estimate came from Chatham?

100% I know that's an exaggeration but I would bet 75%. I know not much came from areas 13 and 14!

it would seem the chatham fishery did a tune on "small" fish

fishbones · 08-10-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Just asking, what percent of the fish taken so far do people estimate came from Chatham?

When I was on vacation last week, I went in to a fish market on the Cape to pick up some stuffies and steamers. I ended up speaking with the owner about the bass coming in from Chatham. He took me in the back room and showed me a few totes overflowing with 34 to 36" fish, all from Chatham. He said that was the only place anyone was getting them, but by last Thursday it had slowed way down.

redlite · 08-10-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull

Just asking, what percent of the fish taken so far do people estimate came from Chatham?

Dan and I were just talking about this last nite.
Chatham has always been the land of the 33 3/4 inch bass.
But based upon Dan's work visits to the empty New Bedford fish houses and here, we estimate about 75% of the quota came from Chatham.
Do the math.
That means about 750,000 lbs. With the average fish there about 15# (though there were a lot more bigger than normal fish mixed in), that's approx 50,000 bass from one mass....Sick.
That's why it slowed down. they were decimated.
The other 25% prob from Block..........
Worst comm season I can remember having from shore in the 17 yrs I've had a comm license........

sokinwet · 08-10-2011, 07:29 AM

Figures, was fishing 3 days nxt. week. Seems the plug has been pulled very early given the current quota percentage.

beamie · 08-10-2011, 08:11 AM

This was most likely stopped to get an accurate number due to some delay in dealer reporting. Would say it is much more than 65% right now, again due to report delays. As is years past you may see it open for a day or 2 in a couple weeks.

Bronko · 08-10-2011, 08:22 AM

At least that biomass of fish off Chatham can take their helmets off now. Can you imagine how hard it was to forage with 5,000 diamond jigs raining down from above?

Rockport24 · 08-10-2011, 09:28 AM

I thought Chatham was seal and great white territory now?

Clammer · 08-10-2011, 09:45 AM

R-24

Kelly Clarkson has been V E R Y quiet lately ????

SINGING REELS · 08-10-2011, 01:10 PM

Fishing at Chatum has taken its toll on more then small fish and not only diamond jigs have been working, but Sabiles,tube and worm and jigs dragged along the ocean bottom.

In order to sucessful out on the water one needs to be able to adapt to what is occurring beneath the surface.

SINGING REELS · 08-10-2011, 03:55 PM

One would be correct in regards to the average weight of the fish out of Chatham, but as been stated many fish were also in the higher 20 pound range.

When one considers that all of the bait is grouped in one area, it only stands to reason the fish will remain , especially if the water temperature is condusive to the species like striped bass like to swim in.

Sand eels have been the main food for bass in this area of the cape for a long time, but when you add in mackerel that are leaving there nursery areas in the protected estuarys you have a food chain they will not leave.

We have not seen any problematic changes to the numbers of bass in this area, as long as you have a boat the bite is on all day long.

The question should be, why did so many bass find Chatham inviting overall and can the resource handle it? That is the number of fish being removed from one area in the State?

It will be interesting to see how the DOMF handle this next year from a species in trouble allready.

Mike P · 08-10-2011, 05:01 PM

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It will be interesting to see how the DOMF handle this next year from a species in trouble allready.

That it will, because the ASMFC is floating talk about a 40% across the board reduction in bass mortality after these much ballyhooed "stock assessments" coming up, and if that doesn't come to pass, I predict that we'll see a huge groundswell of support for gamefish status.

nightfighter · 08-10-2011, 06:32 PM

Yep. My sources say they ripped it up down there. Many many guys limiting out, every day. Flattened out the market price here, then sold to NY and flattened the prices there too.

GregW · 08-11-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

That it will, because the ASMFC is floating talk about a 40% across the board reduction in bass mortality after these much ballyhooed "stock assessments" coming up, and if that doesn't come to pass, I predict that we'll see a huge groundswell of support for gamefish status.

I've heard the idea of them making the striped bass a game fish being thrown around by quite a few people. But, I am wondering what would that mean? Slot limits? 1 a day? close of commercial? Or is it different for every game fish? I am really curious what it would entail.

Mike P · 08-11-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW

I've heard the idea of them making the striped bass a game fish being thrown around by quite a few people. But, I am wondering what would that mean? Slot limits? 1 a day? close of commercial? Or is it different for every game fish? I am really curious what it would entail.

Gamefish = no sale = no commercial fishery at all. Maine, NH, CT, NJ and PA are all currently "gamefish" states where there's no commercial striped bass fishing allowed.

ProfessorM · 08-10-2011, 04:08 PM

I was told by an employee of the guy I use they weighed in over 20,000 lbs on one day from there. Don't feel bad Mike I only made it out for one trip and didn't even pay for my license. They really weren't in my neck of the woods this year, unlike last year. Every year is different.
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Typhoon · 08-11-2011, 07:29 AM

On my way in from the canyons we stopped at handkerchief shoals off Monomoy. The biomass of big bass is staggering there. It's no wonder they were limiting out every day.

SINGING REELS · 08-11-2011, 02:51 PM

FatCow Every one that we saw with a fish on except on a rare occassion, were sticking a hook into the fish. Then they would throw them in the box with out even measuring them. That is a factual account over the past three weeks.
Now do you suppose that some of these fish are not being added to the quata?

Again the lack of enforcement has resulted in a few bad apples to get away free and clear from paying a penalty.

That is except in one case on the upper Cape where a resteraunt was busted for having severel hundred pounds of short fish. They made a mistake in showing the size of the fish when they advertised the special they were running

fatcow · 08-12-2011, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SINGING REELS

FatCow Every one that we saw with a fish on except on a rare occassion, were sticking a hook into the fish. Then they would throw them in the box with out even measuring them. That is a factual account over the past three weeks.
Now do you suppose that some of these fish are not being added to the quata?

Again the lack of enforcement has resulted in a few bad apples to get away free and clear from paying a penalty.

That is except in one case on the upper Cape where a resteraunt was busted for having severel hundred pounds of short fish. They made a mistake in showing the size of the fish when they advertised the special they were running

I launched out of Ryders Cove the whole season. If u did not make it back to the dock by 1:00pm u were checked by not 1 but 3 epos waiting at the dock almost daily. I sold most of my fish to Atlantic and i have a great relationship with the the people that work there. They would check every fish that looked short. I also seen them measure hundreds of fish and reject plenty. Those fish are not put on the limit unless they get by. I seen the epos write at least 20 tickets this year

. I also seen way less fish floating this year. Maybe a dozen all season. Those who brought in the shorts and got caught by the truck just brought home dinner. The trucks got checked daily also down there. If the epos found a short on the truck they would of kicked them out of there. Resulting in alot of lost revenue for the company. Why lose $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for a short. Thats why the truck was checking all the fish and the epos were down there daily because traditionaly lots of shorts come from down there. Hats of to them for smarting up and going were the problem lies.

SINGING REELS · 08-12-2011, 10:37 AM

Fat Cow you have made some very good observations in regards to the selling of fish at the trucks . They have become more diligant since the bust last year that resulted in some problems for them.

This does not address the many who do not sell to the trucks, especially on the lower cape area. Many still find a way to circumvent the process and sell them to other sources. Such an example was brought to light in the town of Dennis a week or so back.

You are right about one thing, we also did not see many floaters as well, why do suppose that is????

Grapenuts · 08-12-2011, 12:59 PM

You know how many little docks an landings there are between the outside and inside beyond the ramp at ryders ...my goodness you could fill tractor trailers full of fish an no one would say boo...I know of 3 who putt by the ramp and unload in that small pond and no one has a clue...Thank the lord these folks are on the up an up, otherwise they could fill their pockets with much $ from shorts.