She's coming but depending on which way she comes, will she crank up the fishing or crank it up and shut it down? Kick off the Fall Run? Or she could simply be a non factor.
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I'm not a big fan of storms... I think their (positive) effect on the fish is overated.. I prefer to find and fish for my quarry under my terms, not terms dictaded by wind and weather, IMHO, it takes the odds out of my favor... people fish harder during storms because they BELIEVE the fishing is better.. and as a rule if you fish harder.. you'll do better..this kind of goes along with the June theory.. early season, everyone is chomping at the bit and most tend to fish harder than they do in August, by September, most ( except the dedicated) have scaled back their efforts or have other interests ( kids going back to school or hunting comne to mind) thus the fishing seems slower..mainly because the ones doing the damge( catching) enjoy their solitude and arn't talking... I've had nights in September that would trump my very best night in June...3 times over.
that said, storms tend to break up bait concetrations, thus scattering them and the fish that are with them.. often driving them dazed and confused towards the shore making feeding game fish an eaiser (more available)target to those shore bound anglers... the north shore ( Plum Island to the NH boarder) has seen a glut of bait this season.. mainly sand eels and mackerel, also this season. for the first time in many years saw belly herring have stayed in the river all year, thus giving the larger bass a major food sorce... as of late, bluefish have been maurading the beaches and river, breaking up those bait concentrations.. herring and shad drops have been appearing for a few weeks now... we've already lost an hours day light in the evening.. .. .. no doubt in my mind the fall run ( another overated phenom, especialy in our neck of the woods) is beginning..
Joe's post makes sense... In my experience, If I am on fish for a while, and a big blow comes. The fishing goes downhill quick. If I can't buy a fish (like now). The storm spreads them out and gives a blind squirrel a nut or 2.
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Not sure on the fishing but I have a feeling that Irene is going to do a lot of damage. Especially if it keeps getting stronger (as predicted) and then pin balls up the east coast. Scary stuff.
For the surf guy, you want the big body (stellwagon fish for example) to get pushed in shore to have a slaughter night. Certain hard winds or storms could do this. The tricky part is timing, and knowing where on the coast it could happen. Each area I fish has the "perfect storm" conditions to do this, but you're at the mercy of the weather, and even then it doesnt pay off all the time. The odds are tough, but when they go in your favor be ready for a banner night.
Then like rockfish9 said, the normal, stable conditions are much easier to deal with as things are more routine and consistent.
1-2 days before the storm hits can be insane. Last year my two best nights of fishing (one was fresh water, one was salt) occurred while the storms were out over NY/NJ and headed our way. Maybe not a guarantee, but I know where I'll be looking and when if this storm heads our way.
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
I hope I have enough batteries and vodka and beer.
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I'm hopin it pushes the bones and albies in my direction.
The usual spots are loaded with butterfish, but so far only the blues know about it.
If the hardtails get blown in, they got reason to stay a while.
I hope we can get out this weekend to look around.
I'm hopin it pushes the bones and albies in my direction.
The usual spots are loaded with butterfish, but so far only the blues know about it.
If the hardtails get blown in, they got reason to stay a while.
I hope we can get out this weekend to look around.
Im waiting for the same thing. Any day/week now. was in a cove loaded with bait sunday mornign with nothing but blues to show. Another week or so and it would have been albies.
Do you really think that the same water is sitting in the same locations along the south shore throughout the seasons? Last time I checked we have tides, waves and wind-driven currents outside of hurricanes...
I think you are observing changes in bait patterns after a storm...
Bryan
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Yeah, but the highest tides are lagging the moon by a few days. Mon-Wed....
Bryan
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