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bart · 11-18-2011, 01:13 PM

Scary what heroin is doing to people around here.
Elderly woman tied up during violent Franklin home invasion

JohnnyD · 11-18-2011, 04:05 PM

This is exactly why I now keep a firearm in the house now.

Where abouts? I have to imagine near US495. Franklin gets the overflow of trash from Milford. The CVS down the street from me has been hit a few times by illegals that were squatting in Milford.

fishbones · 11-18-2011, 04:24 PM

Franklin also borders Woonsocket, which could explain why the suspects were seen on video in RI.

JohnnyD · 11-18-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones

Franklin also borders Woonsocket, which could explain why the suspects were seen on video in RI.

It does? I thought bellingham and wrentham were in between. For once, I'm not being a wise ass... really don't know.

bart · 11-18-2011, 11:46 PM

Woonsocket is real close. This is where all the heroin and criminals are coming from. Johnny, this happened on Mount Street, about five houses down from the Wrentham line. I live on the corner of Mount and Summer. I know the victim. I talked to an investigator today and he said Franklin is getting "pounded." Heroin, opiates are an epidemic and are ruining a lot of peoples' lives, as well as making the surrounding areas unsafe...

Raider Ronnie · 11-19-2011, 05:24 AM

Oh great

cheferson · 11-19-2011, 07:55 AM

Big pharma's oxy's are at fault I bet . Drugs are ok as long as some corp is making money !

Seen too many young people start out popping pills, then start messing with Oxy's . Then when that gets to expensive to support their habit , they move on to snorting heroin . Eventually shooting . Saw many people I grew up with waste away . This was aquidneck island too .....

Karl F · 11-19-2011, 09:02 AM

hearing more and more that Oxy's are the big gateway to H

and hey, it's everywhere now, been on the cape for several years now, and still growing, shootings, stabbings, home invasions, break ins galore... big pill bust not too long ago in a busy parking lot near by, one of the parties involved back out and about in a new suv... and the beat goes on

Joe · 11-19-2011, 09:15 AM

Must be some good #^&#^&#^&#^&.

bart · 11-19-2011, 09:17 AM

exactly what chef said. Luckily Oxys are pretty much off the market now. But then Purdue went and flooded the market with Percs. same deal. can't afford the percs anymore, next step is the big H....

Swimmer · 11-19-2011, 09:47 AM

But the judges all believe this heroin thing is a social ill and not a criminal or crime problem, hence, they dont send any to jail when caught.

Karl F · 11-19-2011, 02:34 PM

must be some kinda awful in them oxy pills, I know two real good kids who were given them by doctors, when they had sports injuries...8-10 years later, both of them two poor kids have sold their souls to keep at it.. damn shame

Karl F · 11-19-2011, 07:03 PM

watched "Ungaurded" recently.. a documentry about Chris Herren.. interesting to hear him say he only did "H" so he wouldn't get "dopesick" from lack of Oxy's, he would do either that was easiest to get, but sounded like Oxy's were the main addiction. He did not get started on it legally tho, his experience was just about getting high. But it kind of re-enforced what I have heard before, and what you mention, the Oxy addiction is the tough one. I do believe they are both opiate based, but have heard that vikes are too???

bart · 11-19-2011, 07:12 PM

I saw that movie as well. It was really sad. I hoping for something uplifting, not what I expected. Yes, Vikes are also opiates, but they won't do the job if you're a junkie. Can't snort, smoke, or shoot them. And not as potent. And yes, you can smoke or shoot Percs, Oxys, and H...

Karl F · 11-19-2011, 07:18 PM

sad ..yes..but the best part, is he has been clean and sober three years, is going around talking to people at risk, and doing something he loves, with basketball too. I must add, he looks amazing at 35, considering what he has been through. brutally honest, and worth the watch.

bart · 11-19-2011, 07:27 PM

definitely very honest. he starts out the movie saying he's not your typical anti-drug speaker. I never made it to the end. happy to hear he's clean...

Swimmer · 11-19-2011, 08:02 PM

They not much of a problem until they crush and snort them. And they used this first, then on to heroin cause its cheaper. They are selfish I dont give a chit people. They made the choice for themselves, Pharma didn't.

cheferson · 11-20-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer

They not much of a problem until they crush and snort them. And they used this first, then on to heroin cause its cheaper. They are selfish I dont give a chit people. They made the choice for themselves, Pharma didn't.

heh , coming from the same person who said -

But the judges all believe this heroin thing is a social ill and not a criminal or crime problem, hence, they dont send any to jail when caught.

I see what your answer is if you have a substance abuse problem...Lock em up!

Surely they get the best drug treatment programs while incarcerated . Also drugs are not easily available in prison either , right? What does is cost to imprison someone for a year ???? I don't think non-violent drug user's should be imprisoned ....

Swimmer · 11-21-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cheferson

heh , coming from the same person who said -

But the judges all believe this heroin thing is a social ill and not a criminal or crime problem, hence, they dont send any to jail when caught.

I see what your answer is if you have a substance abuse problem...Lock em up!

Surely they get the best drug treatment programs while incarcerated . Also drugs are not easily available in prison either , right? What does is cost to imprison someone for a year ???? I don't think non-violent drug user's should be imprisoned ....

My point is if there is no punishment, then thier is no crime. Judges turned thier backs long ago as opposed to dealing with this. When the same people come into court cgarged with the same drug offense 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 times or more. After all that you have to kind of figure the person doesn't care about themselves. In the meantime, while they are not in jail, they are out stealing from people they know and people they dont know to get what they need. When they are not in jail thier drug use is everyones problem. When they are in jail they are forced to deal with it themselves and at leasst they are not stealing from you and I.

Yup, I am sure you can get drugs in jail. Nothing is perfect. What does it cost to keep someone in jail, I dont care. People who use drugs made that concious first choice that thier lives were not exciting or vibrant enough and they needed a bigger kick. If your a drug dealer, then your are an inherently violent person by virtue of making the choice to sell drugs to other people. The act itself is passive, but once the drugs are placed in the buyers hand, a death can occur. Each time you sell drugs you are potentially a killer. Not marijuana, no, but just about anything else.

Karl F · 11-20-2011, 11:37 AM

another issue, and one that is not made public, is that there are officers with abuse issues... so some things go unlooked at, or some is "confiscated" and not to be seen... how can this be you might ask?.. well if Herren could play as well as he did while high.. and there is also the "sealed lip" of the thin blue line...

some of this is coming into the fray localy..(read todays CCTimes).. with the booze issue finally being addressed...but it does go deeper.

UserRemoved1 · 11-20-2011, 12:32 PM

Why can't people just smoke bones anymore

ya get the munchies ya fall asleep

Least that's how I used to be

but I never inhaled.