I'd like to have a Senator that walks the talk

[MotoXcowboy]

Rand Paul stopped by TSA after body scan anomaly - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com

[spence]

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy

Rand Paul stopped by TSA after body scan anomaly - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com

Sounds like a silly stunt.

I fly quite a bit and find the TSA to be consistently professional.
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[striperman36]

I think it was a stupid act. I do think tsa is a little anal , shoes?, at least I can keep my nail clippers now.
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[JohnnyD]

Sounds to me like he thinks the TSA is an impotent organization that does a better job of making every flying American feel like a criminal than it does at preventing people from taking dangerous items onto a plane.

A very timely example, a friend of flew the other day and realized he had a pocket knife on him. Went through the X-Ray with the rest of his stuff, he goes through the strip-scanner. He was an hour into his flight when he though "oh crap. Did I forget to take that out?" And there was his knife.

Yeah... continue to be complacent and accept being required to check your civil liberties at the door.

Rand Paul has been a consistent critic of the TSA and actually had the pull to not be bullied into submitting to a strip-search or being put into a holding cell.

[MotoXcowboy]

They are breaking down your will to resist. The congres and the states can stop it anytime they want.all 50 states have laws against it. It is called sexual assualt. 1st degree outside of pants 2nd degree inside of pants. 1st is a misdemeanor and 2nd is a felony. Kids are 2nd degree.everyone is scared to do there job.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy

They are breaking down your will to resist. The congres and the states can stop it anytime they want.all 50 states have laws against it. It is called sexual assualt. 1st degree outside of pants 2nd degree inside of pants. 1st is a misdemeanor and 2nd is a felony. Kids are 2nd degree.everyone is scared to do there job.

Your tin-foil hat is starting to show...

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Your tin-foil hat is starting to show...

Bryan, Obama already has secret death camps ready for deployment under DHS control. He's just waiting for Soros to send the signal...
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

Bryan, Obama already has secret death camps ready for deployment under DHS control. He's just waiting for Soros to send the signal...
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Prolly not, but a bigger push on Agenda 21 would be a possibility.

[PaulS]

If I don't like it, I can take a bus.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by PaulS

If I don't like it, I can take a bus.

I'm on the west coast for work pretty frequently. I'd like to see you take a bus out there.

[justplugit]

JD, buses no, but if you ever get a few extra days, take the California Zepher out of
Oakland to Chicago and fly from there.
Best train trip I ever had, the scenery and wildlife is unbelieveable.
Just make sure you get a sleeper.

[Fly Rod]

Sorry!

When I went through Tsa with my breathing apartartus I elected to go through the shaig down ,,,They were very gertious had no problem, maybe he thought because he was a senator he was priveliged.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'm on the west coast for work pretty frequently. I'd like to see you take a bus out there.

Then take the train if you don't want to put up w/the requirements.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Then take the train if you don't want to put up w/the requirements.

I'm guessing you haven't traveled for work much. I take the train for most of my travel for anywhere between Boston and DC. The reason the TSA is able to get away with this crap and force people to be groped, molested and interrogated without any probable cause is because people *have* to fly and there is not other practical choice for many locations.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'm guessing you haven't traveled for work much. I take the train for most of my travel for anywhere between Boston and DC. The reason the TSA is able to get away with this crap and force people to be groped, molested and interrogated without any probable cause is because people *have* to fly and there is not other practical choice for many locations.

I've flown plenty of times for work - not as much recently. I've never been bothered by the searches. Flying isn't a right.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'm guessing you haven't traveled for work much. I take the train for most of my travel for anywhere between Boston and DC. The reason the TSA is able to get away with this crap and force people to be groped, molested and interrogated without any probable cause is because people *have* to fly and there is not other practical choice for many locations.

Anywhere out of Acela range you can't get there via train, the train price is reasonable but be prepared. BOS to CHI is a 25 hour trip via DC with a 2 hour layover in DC. I could drive to CHI faster, total cost 1 way with a sleeper is 300 buck. 90 min plane ride plus SEECURITY

[The Dad Fisherman]

FactCheck.org : 500 Percent Ammo Tax?

[justplugit]

Posted 6/29/09?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Shows you how long this rumor has been kicking around.....

Right about the same time as the "Obama Wants your Guns" mindset was around (or probably is still around).

[spence]

I don't think the issue is why Ruger or other manufactures would donate to the NRA, it's pretty obvious...although why Microsoft would is a bit of a mystery. The bigger question is how much say the NRA has in shaping gun law. I believe I've read that Congress considers it the most influential lobby in Washington.

There's a line somewhere between protecting the interests of your members and taking more extreme positions because you're trying to defend a "wedge" issue. While the NRA does a lot of good things to promote gun safety etc...how the organization is pushing a grand Obama conspiracy seems quite over the top.

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by spence

There's a line somewhere between protecting the interests of your members and taking more extreme positions because you're trying to defend a "wedge" issue. While the NRA does a lot of good things to promote gun safety etc...how the organization is pushing a grand Obama conspiracy seems quite over the top.

-spence

Let's not forget that Obama has very openly and very explicitly stated that he supports removing the ability for anyone who is not in law enforcement to carry and conceal, a right that has been completely removed in the City of Chicago.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think the issue is why Ruger or other manufactures would donate to the NRA, it's pretty obvious...although why Microsoft would is a bit of a mystery. The bigger question is how much say the NRA has in shaping gun law. I believe I've read that Congress considers it the most influential lobby in Washington.

There's a line somewhere between protecting the interests of your members and taking more extreme positions because you're trying to defend a "wedge" issue. While the NRA does a lot of good things to promote gun safety etc...how the organization is pushing a grand Obama conspiracy seems quite over the top.

-spence

That's because congress won't admit to the influence that other lobbies have on there pockets. There is no way the NRA is more influential then say oil interest, banking interest, insurance companies, drug companies, AARP etc etc..... The NRA may be powerful because they have 4.3 million members that get out and vote,but they also have the 2nd Amendment on their side.