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04-23-2012, 03:11 PM
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Pelosi- More Taxes
Pelosi wants U and I to pay more taxes.... her statement: "I wish they(working people) would make more, so we can tax more."
What do we get for our tax dollars now?
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04-23-2012, 03:17 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
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extra gulfstream jets for nancy and her pals.....
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04-23-2012, 03:17 PM
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I would pay more taxes for an increase in pay or salary.
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04-23-2012, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket
I would pay more taxes for an increase in pay or salary.
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Yea, until you hit AMT............. Government’s way to demotivate and encourage underachievement once you hit a certain number |
"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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04-23-2012, 06:04 PM
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Old Guy
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Originally Posted by Piscator
Yea, until you hit AMT............. Government’s way to demotivate and encourage underachievement once you hit a certain number
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Amen, amt is extremely painful and fubar
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04-23-2012, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly Rod
Pelosi wants U and I to pay more taxes.... her statement: "I wish they(working people) would make more, so we can tax more."
What do we get for our tax dollars now?
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That's not at all what she said. The media filter you get your news from took her quote out of context because they knew you'd lap it up like a toddler gulping anti-freeze from the fridge.
-spence |
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04-23-2012, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
That's not at all what she said.
-spence
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Spence, what did she say? |
" Choose Life "
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04-23-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Spence, what did she say?
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Use the Google.
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04-23-2012, 07:34 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Originally Posted by spence
Use the Google.
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Nah, not worth my time. I really couldn't care what she says.  |
" Choose Life "
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04-23-2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Nah, not worth my time. I really couldn't care what she says. |
And that is the problem.
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04-23-2012, 05:05 PM
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she can stuff all her idea's up her wazoo
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04-23-2012, 07:50 PM
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As soon as i heard of her "big Idea" of compromising the constitutional
right of free speech with a bill for an amendment... i see RED
no free speech when it comes to politics.... she is such a fool pfffff
Your right DAVE not even worth listening to
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04-24-2012, 09:16 AM
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So... it isn't on Fox News front page... was it really a big deal?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-24-2012, 10:29 AM
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sick of bluefish
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gulp......I agree with Pelosi...
Addressing the percentage of taxpayers who do not pay any income tax, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said these Americans have “skin in the game” since “they pay payroll taxes,” adding, “I wish they would earn more so they can pay more.”
“Well, you know, they do pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes. And this is a tactic that the other side uses to make it sound as if these people are not paying taxes. They are paying taxes. They do have skin in the game. And I think that that should be respected,” said Pelosi at the Capitol Thursday.
“I wish they would earn more so they can pay more, and that’s what we’re about, the creation of good-paying jobs in our country that contribute to our international competitiveness to keep America number one.”
In 2009, 51 percent of American taxpayers did not owe any income tax. The number reportedly dropped to 45 percent in 2010.
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04-24-2012, 03:45 PM
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No spin necessary, just read the full quote.
-spence
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04-24-2012, 05:20 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
No spin necessary, just read the full quote.
-spence
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Nah, just a waste of time.  |
" Choose Life "
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04-24-2012, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Nah, just a waste of time. |
If understanding the debate is wasting time, then we are truly lost.
-spence |
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04-24-2012, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If understanding the debate is wasting time, then we are truly lost.
-spence
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What debate, you didn't spin.  |
" Choose Life "
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04-25-2012, 10:11 AM
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-25-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
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I will find it for you. The figure is based on all revenue. Not on just
tax revenue. |
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04-25-2012, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
Total BS!! Federal Receipts have gone up every year.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckman
I will find it for you. The figure is based on all revenue. Not on just
tax revenue.
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Your numbers aren't federal receipts/revenues. They also aren't "all revenue" for the federal government. The revenue of the federal government is what is in the data table. Whatever the numbers you posted are, they have mislead you. No matter how it is spun, federal tax rates are pretty much as low as they have been in 60 or 70 years. As a result of the recession, fed revenues dropped. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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04-26-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
Your numbers aren't federal receipts/revenues. They also aren't "all revenue" for the federal government. The revenue of the federal government is what is in the data table. Whatever the numbers you posted are, they have mislead you. No matter how it is spun, federal tax rates are pretty much as low as they have been in 60 or 70 years. As a result of the recession, fed revenues dropped.
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You are right. My numbers are total government revenue which includes state and local. All the same to me.
Here is the site.
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts
Not sure how you come up with the 60/70 year thing though |
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04-26-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Not sure how you come up with the 60/70 year thing though
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This graph shows taxes relative to gdp, which is one of the clearest ways to compare year to year, decade to decade. Blue is fed tax, red state, green business. There are many ways it can be compared, from total tax burden to effective rates. They all come out pretty much the same. Any honest comparison shows that taxes are effectively on the low end of where they have been since 1940. The gdp graph can't give you specific tax rates though. For example, taxes are lower now than they were a couple years ago, but as a percent of gdp, they are a slightly higher percent due to a decrease in gdp from the recession. This website has a whole pile of graphs, which give a pretty good overview of past values and projections of the near future. The analysis of the data is somewhat biased though, and makes a bunch of assumptions that may or may not be true.
THE HISTORY OF TAXES: Here's How High Today's Rates Really Are - Business Insider
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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04-26-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
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The website you linked shows total revenue in 2007 at 5.2 trillion. Each year since then has been lower. Based on trickle down economics and conservative dogma, revenues should have increased after the Bush tax cuts. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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04-25-2012, 11:05 AM
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sick of bluefish
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good chart. look at the deficit numbers in the far right for the last 3 years. thats insane
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04-25-2012, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
good chart. look at the deficit numbers in the far right for the last 3 years. thats insane
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Also, interesting that the projected deficit over all of the next five years are a small percenter of gdp than 1982-1988. I wonder if those numbers are based on extension or ending of Bush tax cuts. Outlays as a percent of gdp are right in line with those Reagan years too.
Not comparing them to now, but how about 1943? I had no idea how much we were spending during the war. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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04-26-2012, 07:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly Rod
Pelosi wants U and I to pay more taxes.... her statement: "I wish they(working people) would make more, so we can tax more."
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Where did you get the quote from anyways? It seems like it has been altered? |
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04-26-2012, 08:13 AM
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If boobs were brains Pelosi would belong to MENSA.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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04-26-2012, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
If boobs were brains Pelosi would belong to MENSA.
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Why, you think she has a nice rack?  |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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04-27-2012, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
If boobs were brains Pelosi would belong to MENSA.
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No she wouldn't.Her rack is nonexistent.
If being stupid and a talking head were brains then you might have an argument for MENSA membership! |
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