Flag Etiquette PartII

[basswipe]

Why would I post this here you might ask?Let me explain.

I get it...I'm horrified by the election results too,but when I saw an upsidedown flag this morning the anger outweighed any feelings I had about this campaign.

Hanging the flag in duress is in this situation a terribly wrong thing to do and especially offensive to anyone who has ever served.

[Slipknot]

ya that's a bit much

no need for that kind of thing

I hope people knocked on their door and asked them what was up with that

[Jackbass]

No need for that kind if crap
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[The Dad Fisherman]

No shortage of idiots in this world.....

[RIJIMMY]

agreed, thats crap
Im American and I am f'in fine and so is my country.

[The Dad Fisherman]

My sister-in-laws brother changed his Profile Pic on Facebook to an upside down flag....one of his FB friends, a Marine, ripped him a new one about it.

Its been changed back...

[JohnR]

Some people think they are in civil-political distress and that is one way to display it. I think that is a bit extreme.

[Jim in CT]

It's extreme, but not disrespectful. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for doing it.

In my opinion, our country is not f'in fine.

• We kill 4,000 unborn babies a day, 95% are for sheer convenience.
• Our debt is $16T and growing by $1.5T a year.
• SS and Medicare are underfunded by at least $40 trillion, and if anyone dares to say "gee, is that something we should be concerned about?", our president (and every network except one) will claim that person hates old people.
• Unemployment is almost 8%
• 2 superb Americans died in Benghazi, after risking their lives to save 30 fellow Americans. They died fighting for their lives, they asked for help, and though help was available, it never came. 8 weeks later, our "transparent" President has told us nothing, and none of the azz-kissers in the media have the integrity to ask. As a Marine, that bothers me a hell of a lot more than someone exercising their right to free speech

If you don't think we're in distress, and I mean genuine distress...yuo aren't paying attention.

Where am I wrong?

And here's what I'd like to know...one of the killed former SEALs is Ty Woods. Mr Woods ignored an order to stand down, ran to the US Consulate which was under attack, and got 30 dipolmats back to the CIA annex. When that came under attack, Mr Woods went up on the roof to fight, and to relay info to his superiors.

Here's what I want to know...where the hell are the 30 people that might have died at the consulate if not rescued by Mr Woods? Why aren't they demanding answers as to why their savior was abandoned by this administration. Abandoned on a rooftop in Libya, fighting like a tiger so that they could survive.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

In my opinion, our country is not f'in fine.

• We kill 4,000 unborn babies a day, 95% are for sheer convenience.
• Our debt is $16T and growing by $1.5T a year.
• SS and Medicare are underfunded by at least $40 trillion, and if anyone dares to say "gee, is that something we should be concerned about?", our president (and every network except one) will claim that person hates old people.
• Unemployment is almost 8%
• 2 superb Americans died in Benghazi, after risking their lives to save 30 fellow Americans. They died fighting for their lives, they asked for help, and though help was available, it never came. 8 weeks later, our "transparent" President has told us nothing, and none of the azz-kissers in the media have the integrity to ask. As a Marine, that bothers me a hell of a lot more than someone exercising their right to free speech

If you don't think we're in distress, and I mean genuine distress...yuo aren't paying attention.

you're not necessarily wrong, but given the great history of this nation, it aint a blip in the grand scheme of things.
I dont think we're heading in the right direction, but things have more dire in our history.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

you're not necessarily wrong, but given the great history of this nation, it aint a blip in the grand scheme of things.
I dont think we're heading in the right direction, but things have more dire in our history.

I hear you. But I don't think a $16 trillion debt, and the oncoming financial avalanche from the Baby Boomers, can be dismissed as a blip. It might be the second biggest challenge we have ever faced, after WWII.

And this problem is more complicated. WWII was epic, but a simple concept - there they are, go kill them. How on Earth do you provide the necessary medical care to the baby Boomers when they are frail and sick? The choices seem to be, either we all go bankrupt to care for them, or we tighten our wallets and watch them suffer.

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

It's extreme, but not disrespectful. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for doing it.
If you don't think we're in distress, and I mean genuine distress...yuo aren't paying attention.

Extreme it is and disrespectful it most certainly is!

Btw its not distress...its DURESS!!!Please get it right as there is a difference.And no I will not explain the difference as you obviously have a computer,find out for yourself.

[JohnR]

Norm - US Flag Code calls it Distress:

http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...df/RL30243.pdf

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by basswipe

Extreme it is and disrespectful it most certainly is!

Btw its not distress...its DURESS!!!Please get it right as there is a difference.And no I will not explain the difference as you obviously have a computer,find out for yourself.

There are cefrtain situations in which it's appropriate for the flag to be flown upside-down. Some people feel we are in such a situation, and in my opinion, they can make a compelling case.

Example...Barack The Red is trying to force Catholic Churches to provide contraception to their employees. The Church believes that is immoral, antithetical to the Catechism. Now, you must realize that your opinion on birth-control is not the issue here...rather, the issue is whether or not Roman Catholics are free to practice their religion, without having to brook interference from the feds.

This country literally began as an exercise in religious freedom. Obama thinks religious freedom only applies to religious beliefs that he happens to agree with, and he is quite comfy passing laws that make it illegal to act in accordance with beliefs that he doesn't happen to like.

If that doesn't concern you, I don't know what to say. But it causes duress, or distress, to a great many people.

[striperman36]

We definitely need a LIKE button around here.