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11-16-2012, 01:55 PM
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Obama will be number 1
1932 we had the highest recorded unemployment rate @ 23.6 %
Not sure who has president in 32 and has been at the top of that list For the last 80 years but he will be number 2 soon enough !
Yay Obama !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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11-16-2012, 01:58 PM
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Old Guy
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Hoover, was replaced by FDR in 32.
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11-16-2012, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by striperman36
Hoover, was replaced by FDR in 32.
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Dam
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"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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11-16-2012, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
Dam
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Lmao have to wake up pretty early in the morning.
The powers that be will never allow that number to happen whether it's real or not.
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11-16-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by striperman36
Hoover, was replaced by FDR in 32.
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How fitting that the actions taken by FDR during that time of highest unemployment now has us about to drown in debt.
The New Deal was good for that generation and the generation after it. Today, the New Deal was the snowflake that started the avalanche that will completely smother my generation and that of my children's children in crippling debt if we continue down this path.
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11-16-2012, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
The New Deal was good for that generation and the generation after it. Today, the New Deal was the snowflake that started the avalanche that will completely smother my generation and that of my children's children in crippling debt if we continue down this path.
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There's also the flip side that the New Deal helped usher in the fastest economic and societal growth the planet has ever seen.
I just find it amazing that Obama hate has surpassed faith in America.
-spence
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11-16-2012, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
There's also the flip side that the New Deal helped usher in the fastest economic and societal growth the planet has ever seen.
I just find it amazing that Obama hate has surpassed faith in America.
-spence
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Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........
There is your hate Spence !
Growing up my grandfather preached to me of how back then how embarrassed people were if they needed help or a hand out.
Today a handout is EXPECTED !
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11-17-2012, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........
There is your hate Spence !
Growing up my grandfather preached to me of how back then how embarrassed people were if they needed help or a hand out.
Today a handout is EXPECTED !
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Today we also pay into systems like TDI that are there if we need them. I wouldn't have any problem taking unemployment benefits if I needed them.
As is indicated in the chart posted, the increase in food stamp use under Obama is primarily a reflection of a massive recession and job market that's shifting into a different mode. Obama did expand benefits but I believe that's going to expire soon.
Interestingly though, Food Stamp use under Bush was also climbing dramatically faster than previous administrations, even as Bush was cutting taxes to record lows.
Moody's did an interesting study on Food Stamp's as economic stimulus.
Food stamps offer best stimulus - study - Jan. 29, 2008
-spence
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11-16-2012, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
There's also the flip side that the New Deal helped usher in the fastest economic and societal growth the planet has ever seen.
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That was also a time in society when most adults were ashamed if they couldn't fully support their family, men wanted to work, families were willing to do what was necessary to support their country and American Patriotism/Nationalism wasn't stigmatized.
Being a Career Welfare Recipient wasn't a job description back then.
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11-16-2012, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
That was also a time in society when most adults were ashamed if they couldn't fully support their family, men wanted to work, families were willing to do what was necessary to support their country and American Patriotism/Nationalism wasn't stigmatized.
Being a Career Welfare Recipient wasn't a job description back then.
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IMHO, many people today are afraid of hard work and don't know what it is.
One of the best gifts you can give your kids is a summer job working on a
farm,for a landscaper or in constuction when they're young.
Problem is there is prolly some kind of Govt regulation, in the over 80,0000
on the books, to prevent it.
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11-16-2012, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
How fitting that the actions taken by FDR during that time of highest unemployment now has us about to drown in debt.
The New Deal was good for that generation and the generation after it. Today, the New Deal was the snowflake that started the avalanche that will completely smother my generation and that of my children's children in crippling debt if we continue down this path.
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Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........
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11-16-2012, 06:25 PM
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Our parents, NO ONE, I'm sayin NO ONE want to go on the dole.
Today it is the expectation.
I do agree Ronnie, it should NOT be an EXPECTATION.
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11-16-2012, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by striperman36
Our parents, NO ONE, I'm sayin NO ONE want to go on the dole.
Today it is the expectation.
I do agree Ronnie, it should NOT be an EXPECTATION.
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Not only has the welfare & handout system been turning this country into a #^&#^&#^&#^&hole society be got a huge % who kiss the ass of some politician when it's time to campaign just so they can get a union hack job.
My opinion, the unions had their time & purpose in this country but that time was generations ago and now it's nothing but organized crime, not so much the trades who I have compassion for as if there is no work, they don't work and don't get paid.
The public unions are a HUGE problem in this country today !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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11-17-2012, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
1932 we had the highest recorded unemployment rate @ 23.6 %
Not sure who has president in 32 and has been at the top of that list For the last 80 years but he will be number 2 soon enough !
Yay Obama !
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United States presidential election, 1932 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
hmmm .. Oh, this happened before,, GOP mess passed on ,, Hoover to FDR .. Just like Bush to Obama ,, good point .
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11-17-2012, 08:28 AM
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Revisionist history is a wonderful thing isn't it.
Remember a couple of pieces of legislation signed into law by Slick Willie that repealed legislation signed into law by FDR that helped get us out of the depression.
Mortgage reform and the GLB act! Ring a bell. Kind of the perfect storm for setting up the failure we are experiencing now in our economy. Difference was FDR did something other than hand out money he didn't have. He put people to work. Obama just prints money to pay for failed programs. Kind of tough to create jobs when you have no clue how to. Maybe next time the Dems should put some one on the ticket who has had his name on the front of a few paychecks and not just on the back of them
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