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05-05-2013, 08:32 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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220 to 110?
i have a 4 wire 220 recepticle in my garage and would like to use it to feed a couple of 110 outlets. anybody do this or know how?
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05-05-2013, 10:56 AM
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Keep The Change
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Should have a black and a red which are both Hot form seperate sides of the panel, a white which in neuteral tied to a neuteral bar in the panel and a bare or green wire that is tied to the ground bar in the panel. If it were me I would go back to the panel and run a new circuit rather then split a 220 line because you could overload one leg of the 220 and the breaker may not trip. Typically a 220 circuit is higher amperage (30+) than what you would have on a 110 (15 or 20) which means the circuit isn't properly protected.
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05-05-2013, 11:22 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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wish it were that easy. power supply is at oppisite side of house so it's not an easy option.
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05-05-2013, 02:27 PM
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I'm not an electrician so please ignore what I say
But couldn't you just swap the breaker for a 20A, terminate both ends of the red and wire the receptacles in series as normal? I don't think the wire size would be a problem as long as the receptacle could fit it.
I'd agree with running a new homerun if at all possible. On the off chance you or someone else ever had an issue better it's done right to begin with.
-spence
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05-05-2013, 02:32 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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^^^
hmmm, that sounds logical, i'll look into that , thanks!
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05-05-2013, 03:36 PM
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that would be the simplest way, be sure to cap the ends of the red wire at each end though. Also since you'll be replacing a double pole breaker with a single, now you'll have a gap in the panel inside cover so fill that somehow so it is not open to the inside.
be careful and don't fry yourself
call a sparky if you have doubts
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05-05-2013, 03:48 PM
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BuzzLuck
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Couldn't you actually run 2 20A circuits? One with the black feed and one with the red feed since they are both hot? Put black tape around the ends of the red wire showing it is now functioning as a black hot feed.
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05-05-2013, 04:16 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Seriously, if you're asking.... call an electrician. I wouldn't tackle that myself in my own home, nevermind on a job....
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05-05-2013, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
Couldn't you actually run 2 20A circuits? One with the black feed and one with the red feed since they are both hot? Put black tape around the ends of the red wire showing it is now functioning as a black hot feed.
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That would give you 40 amp of potential circuits on the same neutral wire! Not likely to happen but you never know.
I'm fortunate to have a neighbor who's a master electrician and gives free advice. I usually don't do jack without a consultation. And I never touch my panel.
-spence
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05-05-2013, 06:00 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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methinks i'll try more sparksters- the 3 i've called don't seem to be interested, maybe there's a lot of work around or it's too small a job???
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05-05-2013, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afterhours
methinks i'll try more sparksters- the 3 i've called don't seem to be interested, maybe there's a lot of work around or it's too small a job???
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Could be how you're describing it as well. If you're asking about converting a circuit to something other than it's intended use I would think many wouldn't want to touch it because of liability...
-spence
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05-05-2013, 06:35 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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maybe..i'm willing to pay someone just to look and say yea or neah.
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05-05-2013, 07:13 PM
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Land OF Forgotten Toys
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I am a master electrician. If you can text or e mail me a photo of the outlet I can help you out. I will PM you my e mail address and my cell number.
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05-05-2013, 07:24 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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thanks!
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05-05-2013, 08:26 PM
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Find online a book of standards of electrical wiring and see requirements for your situation.
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