Need some input with line choice advantages

[DZ]

I've been asked to write an article about the advantages of using monofilament in surfcasting applications. As many of you know I'm pretty much "old school" when it comes to equipment and techniques used to chase striped bass. I've been a mono guy forever except for a "very" brief pause to try Whiplash braid in 1999 and using Invisi-Braid for the past two months so I could gain more practical experience with braid. I've listed some advantages and disadvantages of both. Feel free to add anything to the list that I might have missed. Thanks in advance for any input.


Super Braids (Advantages)
1. Increased sensitivity, solid hooksets, and superior casting distance when needed.
2. Braids offer another major advantage by having a very thin diameter/to strength ratio that allows for greater depth penetration when jigging deeper water/high flow areas such as canals/breachways. Smaller diameters allow for the use of lighter jig heads that would not be possible when using larger diameter monofilament lines.
3. Can last most of the season without changing.
4. Brute strength.


Super Braids (Disadvantages)
1. High cost
2. Wind knots impossible to untangle
3. Hook-up to land ratio: Dropped fish when allowed to go slack
4. Abrasion resistance is poor
5. No stretch destroys rod blanks
6. Very hard to break when you’re hung up.
7. Braid buries on spool when under extreme pressure sometimes causing line to cut itself.

Monofilament (Advantages)
1. Affordability
2. Shock absorbency – the ability for mono to stretch on high impact strikes offers insurance.
3. Abrasion resistance in boulder fields is a huge advantage for monofilament.
4. Ability to tie direct without leader when a subtle presentation is necessary.
5. More forgiving in overcoming mistakes. For example monofilament will stretch quite a bit if a drag is set too tight. This will allow a caster to back off the tension before the line breaks.
6. Improved hook-up to land ratio. I found that monofilament allows for a better hook-up/land ratio because the stretch in mono always seems to help keep a tight line when a bass is thrashing on the surface.

Monofilament (Disadvantages)
1. Less Sensitivity
2. Casting Distance
3. Stretch/elasticity
4. Hook sets
5. Diameter ratio for stronger lines
6. Brittle/stiff in cold temps
7. Must be changed often.

[Nebe]

You can cast braid a lot further than mono
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[Redsoxticket]

Braid cuts fingers
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[Rob Rockcrawler]

Increase in straitened out hooks with braid.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler

Increase in straitened out hooks with braid.

I think this has to do with the fact braid permits us to fish much higher tests without sacrificing spool depletion and casting distance.

If guys were fishing 40-60# mono and tight drags you'd likely experience the same hook failures.
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[DZ]

All good stuff - keep it coming.

[JLH]

I find heavier braid 50+ pounds has more abrasion resistance than 20 pound mono. I've mainly been a braid user but did experiment with mono in areas where I was getting broken off by bigger fish and I found I was losing more fish to the rocks with the mono than I had with braid.
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[Back Beach]

Braid is much more cost effective IMO. Given braid is capable of lasting several seasons if you reverse it, the cost of mono is much higher over the same time frame.

Say for example you respool with mono every 1-2 weeks during the course of a season to ensure the integrity of your line system. It will likely cost you double that of a braid system if you're fishing heavily.

Braid is maybe $40/ season and $20/ season for 2 seasons if you flip it.

Mono would have to be $15-20 per month if you're keeping up with it. Spool depletes quickly from cutting back and I find after 4-5 trips my 15-20# mono is toast and loses most of its strength.
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[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

Mono would have to be $15-20 per month if you're keeping up with it. Spool depletes quickly from cutting back and I find after 4-5 trips my 15-20# mono is toast and loses most of its strength.
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Those damn sunfish certainly take their toll.

[Steve K]

Mono degrades in sunlight.

[SeaWolf]

dennis, braid does not directly cause rod failure, anglers and manufacturers cause the failures we hear/read about. so many failures are blamed on the rod or braid or whatever, but it's almost always a case of high-sticking, overpowering the rod's ratings, fishing drags way too tight, or carelessness, which few own up to. yes, there are manufacturers that have had issues w/ a certain series or model due to pushed development or poorly designed guide trains. yes, occasionally a blem does come thru, but it's rare. however, braid has changed the rod blank industry in how they design blanks from lessons learned early on, such as ron arra series. also, guide selection has changed so that wind knots are lessened. i can fish weeks w/o a wind knot personally, but i build my own rods too. looking at a rod from the 80s, to a rod in the late 90s, to a rod today, it's amazing the changes, and most of that is what you can see. anglers that have fished mono didn't loosen their drag when they switched to braid; most increased drag pressure since they slipped easier when fighting fish. where does that pressure now go? ferrules, blanks, and reels. newer blanks have a lot of technology to now compensate for "braids" or mainly the new pressures put on them due to strain originally absorbed by mono. one advantage not talked about here yet is that braid essentially pushed blank design and rod design to make rods lighter and more enjoyable to fish!

i have found little advantage to fishing mono over braid. not needing gloves or a casting finger to cast would be one and possible easier to untangle if fishing around other anglers fishing braid, which is huge on a dark night, when the bite is on, and guys are trying to untangle instead of just cutting. basically, speed of untangling. i also noticed my knots were failing less on braid than when compared to mono.

[Got Stripers]

You would have to kill me to get my braid, I've not fished mono in a decade, fishing light gear and plastic; braid sensitivity is not something I'd ever give up. After you get past the learning curve, the advantages so far outweight the disadvantages. Yes fishing around ledges can be frustrating with braid and rock not being too friendly, but a longer fluro leader can eliminate a lot of the premature breakoffs.

If I were a surfcaster, I might be singing a different tune, but as a boater; braid is king.

[Nebe]

What are the environmental impacts o the two types of line? If braid was more biodegradable I'd use it.. Mono lasts for ever doesn't it?

Cuts and straightened hooks are a really big deal with braid
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[EricM]

You can leverage the diminished penetration of mono when fishing boulder fields - with higher test you can use it to "float" a jig a little bit more and reduce the chance of snagging.

[ivanputski]

i stopped using mono about 8 years ago... I dont use mono for anything, ever,
except as leader material.

Braig casts farther, is more sensitive which is important for more reasons than just a solid hookset without stretch... i often times slowly drag and bump bottom and "walk" my offering over stucture especially at new spots to determine what the terrain is. braid helps detect and transmits every bump to your rod to be felt.

example: remember when you were a kid with 2 soup cans and a string to make a makeshift temephone? well the way I look at it is, braid is the equivalent of a tight line while talking (clear crisp transmission) and mono is like a slack line (audible, but mushy mumbling)

If breakoffs are a concern, as they are in most of the terrain I fish ( o rarely ever fish sandy beaches) i lengthen my leader (60# mono). My average leader length is 5-6 feet

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by DZ

4. Ability to tie direct without leader when a subtle presentation is necessary.

This alone is reason enough to fish with a mono setup or have one handy. 14-17# mono tied direct used to produce a lot of fish for me when higher diameter lines weren't doing it.

5 1/4" rebels on 12-14# test mono tied direct produced a lot of fish on the cape, and likely still does.

[MAKAI]

I still use mono soaking bait. The fish don't shake off as easily when you are not right next to the spike. Also eeling I like using S glass at times w braid. All the best qualities of braid yet the blanks shock absorption makes it feel like mono once hooked up.
All plugging is braid and lami. Though I may give the cts or century stuff a try next year.
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