hey....keep your religion

[scottw]

out of our politics...

Charlie Rangel Says Some
Republicans 'Believe That Slavery
Isn't Over'

COLIN CAMPBELL
OCT. 30, 2014,

Veteran Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) had some
harsh words for the Republican Party during a
Thursday campaign rally for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D).

As he has done repeatedly before, Rangel compared
some members of the GOP to confederates from
the Civil War era. But at the Thursday evening
event, he added that they "believe that slavery isn't
over."

"We have to win. We have to be able to send a national message with Andrew Cuomo. And the thing is: Everything we believe in — everything we believe in — they hate. They don't disagree — they hate!

They think if you didn't come from Europe 30 years ago, you didn't even make it. Some of them believe that slavery isn't over and they and think they won the Civil War!" Rangel shouted.

In contrast, Rangel said the Democratic Party is doing "God's work" on issues important to the American people."And so what we have to do is send a collective voice," he said of the upcoming midterms. Some Republicans 'Believe That Slavery Isn't Over' "Everything we're doing is God's work: education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage."



Hey Eben....since you explained to us that when Hillary said “Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.”...she actually "meant" something completely different and unrelated.....can/should we just assume that Charlie meant something other than what he actually said?

would it be acceptable to say that "most" people who think or believe like Charlie gravitate to his party and therefore is there some unsavory label (lunatic maybe) that we might assign that party as a result of what he like-minded might think or believe?....

...Charlie isn't some dope that crawled out from under a rock to join a protest with an offensive sign or comments....Charlie is a very long standing, high ranking member of that party...as is Hillary re. her comment


before you say..."ohhh, that's just old Charlie" read all of this http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...lack-vo/print/

[Nebe]

Hey. He's from New York. Let's not forget that in the good ol days the rich plantation owners were actually democrats.

But yes. Let's keep religion out of politics. It's in the constitution.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

But yes. Let's keep religion out of politics. It's in the constitution.
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If we must follow the Constitution on politics and religion, should we not then follow it on matters of "education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage." Where in the Constitution does it say that the Federal Government should be involved in those things? Shouldn't we keep the Federal Government out of those things as well as out of religion?

[Fishpart]

Originally Posted by detbuch

If we must follow the Constitution on politics and religion, should we not then follow it on matters of "education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage." Where in the Constitution does it say that the Federal Government should be involved in those things? Shouldn't we keep the Federal Government out of those things as well as out of religion?

Have we forgotten the 10th Amendment?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Hey.

But yes. Let's keep religion out of politics. It's in the constitution.
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actually..it's not in the Constitution...I'm pretty sure the word "politics" never appears in the Constitution....maybe you hadn't had your coffee yet on that one either...or may be you haven't read the Constitution?

I cited Charlie as a wonderful example of the hypocrisy we see from the progressives today who will pillory anyone on the right who mentions God in the political arena as being unfit for public service yet feel comfortable using God as a politicking tool when convenient. And of course, the rest of what he said was just as low as you can crawl.

I don't have a problem with Charlie feeling he's "doing God's work"...he's perfectly within his right to do so..that's actually in the Constitution re. religion and speech

the Constitution, as written, doesn't ban religion from politics, or ban religious minded from being guided by their religious principles when involved in politics.. or religious-minded from trying to influence politics and their Government.... which is what you have made clear you would like to see or believe it says

not only does the Constitution restrict congress from making laws "respecting(with reference or regard to) an establishment of religion"...it also guarantees the Individual free exercise(which most certainly includes "POLITICS") that's what's actually "in the Constitution"

if you read the whole thing including the Bill of Rights, you'll notice a theme where Government is restricted in what it may do...... and the Individual's Rights are are "guaranteed"(protected) in what they may do

Religion is an individual right, unlike many other "rights" these days..it's actually in the Constitution, religion is a "belief" or set of beliefs...suggesting "Let's keep religion out of politics" is saying one must leave their beliefs at the door when entering the political arena...since we're all equal under the law...I'd suggest that you must also leave your beliefs, where ever they're derived from, at the door when discussing political issues or entering the political arena....it a simple way to exclude those that you may disagree with from the process...which may be why the Framers mention it first


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


this is great...if you go to the Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AU) Charlie Rangel scores 100% by the AU on church-state separation

I wonder if they're aware that Charlie, as a long time elected "State" official(in Congress since since 1971) and leader is doing "God's work" through all of the "State" programs and policies that he's helped create and maintain, expand and fund....

[Nebe]

I think they were called "blue dog democrats" or something like that. ( I haven't had my coffee yet.)
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[Raven]

Originally Posted by Nebe

( I haven't had my coffee yet.)
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heh heh.....

this works Bettah

[Nebe]

Sure. I'm all for that.
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[justplugit]

[QUOTE]=scottw;10554

"Everything we're doing is God's work: education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage."

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Charlie is a fox, you can't help but laugh when he talks, he always
looks like he's just ready to get caught with his finger in the pie.
I wonder if God was guiding him not to report $75,000 in taxable
rental income and that fiasco in Harlem? Typical lib, great empathy as
long as somebody else is paying for it.

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=justplugit;1055454]

=scottw;10554

"Everything we're doing is God's work: education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage."

QUOTE]


Charlie is a fox, you can't help but laugh when he talks, he always
looks like he's just ready to get caught with his finger in the pie.
I wonder if God was guiding him not to report $75,000 in taxable
rental income and that fiasco in Harlem? Typical lib, great empathy as
long as somebody else is paying for it.

Right, when Charlie dodges taxes, it's OK. If a white investment banker does it, it's a capital offense. Always remember and protect The Narrative.

[spence]

Funny, the POTUS says God bless America quite a bit and nobody seems to get upset. I thought "doing God's work" was akin to saying you were working for the people?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny, the POTUS says God bless America quite a bit and nobody seems to get upset. I thought "doing God's work" was akin to saying you were working for the people?

Which God is he asking for the blessing? I am not familiar with a God who blesses those who promote so many of the policies that Obama and his political minions do, unless he is referring to the progressive God--Government. And it is the God Government who uniquely considers Its blessing as working for the people. Most other Gods require the people to work for them, and through that working for God the people are rewarded with God's blessing. Most other religions would consider working for the people rather than working for God a rejection of God.

You seem to have a socialistic view of God. Which very much aligns with the belief that Government is God.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think they were called "blue dog democrats" or something like that. ( I haven't had my coffee yet.)
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That would be incorrect (just finished my coffee - time to build a siege engine):

Blue Dog Democrat Philosophy

A Blue Dog Democrat is one who views himself as being in the middle of the partisan spectrum and as an advocate for fiscal restraint at the federal level.

The preamble to the Blue Dog Caucus in the House describes its members as being "dedicated to the financial stability and national security of the country, notwithstanding partisan political positions

The proponents of the southern position prior to Civil War were Democrats. Some (all?) of the northern Democrats backed the Republican position of anti-slavery. The Republican party mainly developed as a response to curb the expansion of slavery north and west of where it existed at the time.

[rphud]

I think it's "separation of church and state" and "one nation, under God" if memory serves.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by rphud

I think it's "separation of church and state" and "one nation, under God" if memory serves.

is it?...neither of your quotes appears in any or our founding documents nor any of our laws that I'm aware of..."separation of church and state" is described as a "metaphorical description" and a "concept"....and "one nation, under God" was adopted in the early 1950's as part of the Pledge of Allegiance...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

(just finished my coffee - time to build a siege engine):

We built ours last weekend....