Syria

[Nebe]

I challenge anyone to find mention of this pipeline in the US news cycle. Just as the war in Iraq was really about oil, the situation in Syria is about natural gas.

The world needs more Wind and Solar



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar-Turkey_pipeline

[Nebe]

I'll add a bit more.

Just as weapons of mass distraction were used to justify the war in Iraq and justify what we did (oil grab)

The migrant issue is being used to distract the people of this world from the real agenda.
The war going on in Syria is happening because of this pipeline. Russia is in there to protect its ruling party because they oppose the pipeline.

Who's to say That Isis was not let to grow and spread like it did just so enough destabilization could occur to topple Assad and let this pipeline happen ?

Think about it.
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[scottw]

thinking...thinking


probably all orchestrated behind the scenes in yet another example of Obama's hidden brilliance and masterful foreign policy command...right Spence?

Eben...you should also add that the little mishap in Paris was actually the result of a disagreement over a souffle

[Nebe]

Think harder scott !
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Think harder scott !
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I'm outta weed

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'm outta weed

That explains the irritability.


Do you really believe everything on the news and what we are told are 100% true? DO you know what propaganda is ?

[Nebe]

I did a search for "syria, conflict, gas pipeline"


"So what was this unfolding strategy to undermine Syria and Iran all about? According to retired NATO Secretary General Wesley Clark, a memo from the Office of the US Secretary of Defense just a few weeks after 9/11 revealed plans to "attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years", starting with Iraq and moving on to "Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran." In a subsequent interview, Clark argues that this strategy is fundamentally about control of the region's vast oil and gas resources."

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ergy-pipelines

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

That explains the irritability.


Do you really believe everything on the news and what we are told are 100% true? DO you know what propaganda is ?

You're preaching to the choir here . Most of us agree with you
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

You're preaching to the choir here . Most of us agree with you
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You guys didn't when we were going to invade Iraq

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

You're preaching to the choir here . Most of us agree with you
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Says Buck as he hoists his "no blood for oil" sign over his head...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

DO you know what propaganda is ?

yes, I read Spence's posts

[JohnR]

And who is best globally with propaganda?

And did that entity support propaganda in other countries?

And did that propaganda in the US emanate from a particular party?

Where is that party today?

/tfhat

[buckman]

Well I had previously stated that Lybia ( Another safe haven for ISIS now ) was all about oil but was told it was strictly for humanitarian reasons . That's the only reason this administration wants regime change and the only reason we are gun running through Turkey to arm "rebels " . Please don't dash my faith in our dear leader .
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

Well I had previously stated that Lybia ( Another safe haven for ISIS now ) was all about oil but was told it was strictly for humanitarian reasons . That's the only reason this administration wants regime change and the only reason we are gun running through Turkey to arm "rebels " . Please don't dash my faith in our dear leader .
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i dont believe i ever disagreed with you on that. Pretty much everything we do as far as foreign policy has to do with oil these days.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I challenge anyone to find mention of this

The world needs more Wind and Solar

[URL="http://www.ridgeblade.com/"]http://www.ridgeblade.com/[/UR]
i think this is a good idea

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Raven

[URL="http://www.ridgeblade.com/"]http://www.ridgeblade.com/[/UR]
i think this is a good idea

And Nuclear.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by JohnR

And Nuclear.

Great; I'm on board in theory..
where do we site them? Want one in Warwick?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Great; I'm on board in theory..
where do we site them? Want one in Warwick?

Plymouth
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Great; I'm on board in theory..
where do we site them? Want one in Warwick?

Around here?

Coastal, desolate Maine, Little Compton or Charlestown (hell they already had one criticality incident), Gould Island, Prudence. I would put one at Groton, CT, though they have one nearby, Nomans. And in a very rare instance I would put the Navy/Gubmint in charge - they do have a good record and they can sell the power to the grid. Sell me some nearby waterfront land cheap and I'll setup near a nuke.

I would even consider offshore Nuke plants.

Other ideal places, more desolate and off the beaten path though I would think a more sensible way is to put Nuclear in more desolate regions and offshore and some local land based wind farms.

I am really into nonrenewable energy / nuclear. As opposed to a lot of people that want it but NIMBY.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Around here?

Coastal, desolate Maine, Little Compton or Charlestown (hell they already had one criticality incident), Gould Island, Prudence. I would put one at Groton, CT, though they have one nearby, Nomans. And in a very rare instance I would put the Navy/Gubmint in charge - they do have a good record and they can sell the power to the grid. Sell me some nearby waterfront land cheap and I'll setup near a nuke.

I would even consider offshore Nuke plants.

Other ideal places, more desolate and off the beaten path though I would think a more sensible way is to put Nuclear in more desolate regions and offshore and some local land based wind farms.

I am really into nonrenewable energy / nuclear. As opposed to a lot of people that want it but NIMBY.

So... offshore nukes and onshore wind?

The one thing I agree is we need more nukes online. Maine, I agree. I'd love to see the Canadians get involved and sell some power back. I think the reality of NIMBY is that while you want be willing to live next door most aren't. The site in Charlestown I know well; I use some of the data they collected offshore in the 1970's. I think a good compromise is utilize Gould and other state/fed properties is wind/solar farms. I think the siting of a nuke would not happen in the Bay, at least not with current mindsets on Nukes.

The one thing I will add, something I am 'really into' is that we have a dubious record globally and domestically of underestimating both coastal flood risks, both the actual water levels/waves/sea level rise AND our ability to 'hold the line'. Coastal areas need to be selected carefully; we need to think centuries and beyond when planning these; especially since most of the material will stay on site until we find a better long-term plan.

Ultimately, the future of energy policy will have to be a combination of technologies and solutions, with more and more local, on-site production; coupled with efficiency, we actually have a lot of the tools already. Nukes + other technologies + efficiency is a big chunk of the 'wedge' strategy proposed by the CMI group at Princeton 5 or 6 years ago....


p.s. Little Compton

[detbuch]

Enlightening perspective on the Syrian immigration debate:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...im-immigration

[detbuch]

Also:

http://humanevents.com/2015/12/02/ca...tm_campaign=nl

Thank quantums and big bang we're not Europe . . . yet . . .

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Also:

http://humanevents.com/2015/12/02/ca...tm_campaign=nl

Thank quantums and big bang we're not Europe . . . yet . . .

Sounds like a lot of bull#^&#^&#^&#^& if you ask me.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Sounds like a lot of bull#^&#^&#^&#^& if you ask me.
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Takes one to know one.