Brussels

[Fly Rod]

I am surprised that something like that has not happeed here....think about it....U go to the airport with your luggage, go to check your suitcase in and get in security line with carry on or back pack, large crowd waiting in line....there is no security in that line....very easy to set off an explosion.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

I am surprised that something like that has not happeed here....think about it....U go to the airport with your luggage, go to check your suitcase in and get in security line with carry on or back pack, large crowd waiting in line....there is no security in that line....very easy to set off an explosion.

Agree. Fortunately the FBI, NSA, and local Law Enforecement have done a good job chasing leads and potential adversaries. Still, sadly, just a matter of time. Our people must be lucky all the time, ther bad guys, not so much

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

I am surprised that something like that has not happeed here....think about it....U go to the airport with your luggage, go to check your suitcase in and get in security line with carry on or back pack, large crowd waiting in line....there is no security in that line....very easy to set off an explosion.

Remember also that once on airport property you're on dozens of cameras, unless it's a suicide attack the deterrent is there. If you're radicalized enough to kill yourself the odds of you being on a watch list go up also...so the number of unknown yet radicalized individuals is likely not a huge group. Remains to be seen how much trouble Europe is in right now...

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Remember also that once on airport property you're on dozens of cameras, unless it's a suicide attack the deterrent is there. If you're radicalized enough to kill yourself the odds of you being on a watch list go up also...so the number of unknown yet radicalized individuals is likely not a huge group. Remains to be seen how much trouble Europe is in right now...

They have a much larger percentage of Muslims then America does . Europe is in deep now .
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

Remember also that once on airport property you're on dozens of cameras, unless it's a suicide attack the deterrent is there. If you're radicalized enough to kill yourself the odds of you being on a watch list go up also...so the number of unknown yet radicalized individuals is likely not a huge group. Remains to be seen how much trouble Europe is in right now...

As U may have noticed security camara did not stop the bombers in Brussel only identified after the fact and the same would B here in this country as security camara showed the passing of the bomb from a Russian employee to another person prior to boarding Russian plane...once again after the fact ...there is no deterrant to stop a radical

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

As U may have noticed security camara did not stop the bombers in Brussel only identified after the fact and the same would B here in this country as security camara showed the passing of the bomb from a Russian employee to another person prior to boarding Russian plane...once again after the fact ...there is no deterrant to stop a radical

Like I said, cameras with a suicide bomber don't mean as much. That's why they're focused on the possible non suicide person of interest who could have been there to see they didn't chicken out.
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

Like I said, cameras with a suicide bomber don't mean as much. That's why they're focused on the possible non suicide person of interest who could have been there to see they didn't chicken out.
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The only visual security at logan are state police shooing away people in their cars parking at the arrival terminal

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

The only visual security at logan are state police shooing away people in their cars parking at the arrival terminal

Boston Logan International Airport set a new passenger record in 2012 with 29,325,617 people passing through the airport, an increase of 416,350 over 2011

1 Airport in the country there is no security in the world that could stop a determined suicide bomber.. its unrealistic to expect otherwise


the key is intel prior to an attack , tracking ammo weapons explosives chatter on the internet general intel from human sources from theses communities

But I dont think many 2a guys would support some of theses control and tracking .. ( it would be construed as a back door on taking their guns ) they would happily support endless lines and intrusive searches on billions of travelers time and money more expanded Government in a feel good attempt to find the needle in the Hay stack .. thats just what I Think would happen

[Nebe]

I can't believe I am going to say this and I don't agree with it but you will probably see internment camps in the future followed by massive deportations once the Syrian conflict settles down.

Key word here is probably which is a little more than might but a lot less than definite.
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[Fly Rod]

Maybe we should follow the Israelis security system...but will americans put up with that tight security?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel...b_4978149.html

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I can't believe I am going to say this and I don't agree with it but you will probably see internment camps in the future followed by massive deportations once the Syrian conflict settles down.

Key word here is probably which is a little more than might but a lot less than definite.
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Never happen....we can't even have a Gitmo
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by buckman

Never happen....we can't even have a Gitmo
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Duck falls from the ceiling

Actually, I am going to correct you, we will have Gitmo as long as it is necessary, we will hear the same government that uses it speak against it, and when that administration has gotten its usefulness from it, they will remove it at the last minute, and its utility, to the next administration.

If he closed it in his first couple years that is one thing, but if Obama waits until the last minute, that is just fraud.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Duck falls from the ceiling

Actually, I am going to correct you, we will have Gitmo as long as it is necessary, we will hear the same government that uses it speak against it, and when that administration has gotten its usefulness from it, they will remove it at the last minute, and its utility, to the next administration.

If he closed it in his first couple years that is one thing, but if Obama waits until the last minute, that is just fraud.

True
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Never happen....we can't even have a Gitmo
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Reminiscing about those better days?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Reminiscing about those better days?

Have some of those released returned to become a threat ? Yes or no ?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Have some of those released returned to become a threat ? Yes or no ?
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Right, because detaining and torturing so many was good PR.

[Nebe]

No no. How about we bring back the gladiator matches ?? Feed them to the lions. Have it take place in the center of the nascar tracks. Yes!!!!
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

No no. How about we bring back the gladiator matches ?? Feed them to the lions. Have it take place in the center of the nascar tracks. Yes!!!!
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This is why Trump will be YOUR next president . The left can't make an intelligent argument . People are not buying the BS anymore .
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[basswipe]

Originally Posted by Nebe

No no. How about we bring back the gladiator matches ?? Feed them to the lions. Have it take place in the center of the nascar tracks. Yes!!!!
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Hell yea!!!Jeff would make an awesome commentator!

Those trips up to Loudon twice a year would be so much more interesting!

[Nebe]

^ so true.
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[spence]

Here's a genius idea...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...rhoods-n543616

Certainly the best way to combat radicalization it to marginalize people because of their race/religion...I can't think of any better way to get more collaboration with the FBI and LPD...

And this is the number two, who can't be as idiotic as the number 1.

John Kasich is looking better and better every day.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

Here's a genius idea...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...rhoods-n543616

Certainly the best way to combat radicalization it to marginalize people because of their race/religion...I can't think of any better way to get more collaboration with the FBI and LPD...

And this is the number two, who can't be as idiotic as the number 1.

John Kasich is looking better and better every day.

Cruz is a moron as I said this issue needs to be resolved from with in the Community Him suggesting establishing a Muslim ghetto "this has been tried in History" he his trying very hard for Votes.. Fear it's what conservatives dish out. its their Banner

calling for law enforcement to "patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods" in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels,

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Cruz is a moron as I said this issue needs to be resolved from with in the Community Him suggesting establishing a Muslim ghetto "this has been tried in History" he his trying very hard for Votes.. Fear it's what conservatives dish out. its their Banner

calling for law enforcement to "patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods" in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels,

Yea we should allow 10000
refugees to come here instead , that would be a good start.
That's your sides brilliant plan is .
That should scare the hell out of you but you would rather "feel" like you are taking the high road
Why don't you tell us what the genius Secretary of State has done to minimize the threat of a radical Muslim attack .
Sorry ISIS keeps proving your side inept .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

That should scare the hell out of you but you would rather "feel" like you are taking the high road

The US takes in around 100,000 refugees a year already and many are Muslim. Those potentially coming from Syria don't get to choose which country they're sent to and go through a long vetting process. If your intent was to harm America it wouldn't be a very prudent path to take.

What really scares the hell out of me is that the top two GOP candidates are calling for the US to scrutinize people because of their religion.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

The US takes in around 100,000 refugees a year already and many are Muslim. Those potentially coming from Syria don't get to choose which country they're sent to and go through a long vetting process. If your intent was to harm America it wouldn't be a very prudent path to take.

What really scares the hell out of me is that the top two GOP candidates are calling for the US to scrutinize people because of their religion.

We have been over this before . What religion would you like to associate with Radical Islam Spence ?
The attacks in Brussels didn't happen because a bunch of Christians refugees moved in .
Common sense
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

What really scares the hell out of me is that the top two GOP candidates are calling for the US to scrutinize people because of their religion.

So we ignore the one common thread that the jihadists share, and pretend that an Amish person represents the same threat as a young Muslim man?

Spence, they say that 1% or 2% of Muslims are radicalized. So here is a very simple, yet very pertinent question for you.

I give your kids a bowl of 100 gummy bears. I tell you that 1 of them is poisoned and will kill whoever eats it. How many do you let your children eat, before you throw the bowl in the garbage?

Have fun with that.

The western, civilized world will soon find itself at a very real crossroads with this issue. If peaceful Muslims don't want to force westerners to a place with horrible, yet morally obvious, decisions to make...they need to find a way to deal with the devil in their midst.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Sorry ISIS keeps proving your side inept .

Wait, if ISIS is on the other side, and you're not on our side, that makes you on ISIS's side?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Cruz is a moron as I said this issue needs to be resolved from with in the Community Him suggesting establishing a Muslim ghetto "this has been tried in History" he his trying very hard for Votes.. Fear it's what conservatives dish out. its their Banner

calling for law enforcement to "patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods" in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels,

"Cruz is a moron "

Tell that to Harvard Law Professor (and hard-core liberal) Alan Dershowitz, who says that Cruz was the brightest student he ever had.

"Fear it's what conservatives dish out"

Oh, I see. So when Obama ran on "hope and change", that's not trying to make anyone afraid of the other side. And when Hilary says that conservatives are opposed to women's health, that we hate blacks, Mexicans, homosexuals, poor people, old people, blah, blah, blah...that's not fear-mongering. Got it.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Cruz is a moron "

Tell that to Harvard Law Professor (and hard-core liberal) Alan Dershowitz, who says that Cruz was the brightest student he ever had.

"Fear it's what conservatives dish out"

Oh, I see. So when Obama ran on "hope and change", that's not trying to make anyone afraid of the other side. And when Hilary says that conservatives are opposed to women's health, that we hate blacks, Mexicans, homosexuals, poor people, old people, blah, blah, blah...that's not fear-mongering. Got it.

No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?

PS smart people can be morons.. cruz's statement is more than enough to make my point .. for a legal guy he has no issues doing illegal things like locking down Muslim neighborhood out of fear
The CBS hosts pressed Cruz on how he thinks it would logistically work to patrol 3 million American Muslims, who are not, as Cruz suggested, “ghetto-ized” in festering radical communities.

Cruz admitted, when asked by co-host Norah O’Donnell that he didn’t know how many Muslims lived in the United States.

“So you’re saying that law enforcement should surveil a number of Muslims and you don’t even know how many Muslims are in America,” she said.

Please note I am not saying this isn't a concern (terrorism) But it is Far from the 1# most dangerous issue America faces Unless your a Conservative a party where you can get Terrorism Immigration and weak Military and for additional introductory offer you can throw in for free Gun grabber Gay marriage or losing religious freedoms abortion or Planned parenthood>>> its like a comcast bundle all BS makes you feel like you got something

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?

PS smart people can be morons.. cruz's statement is more than enough to make my point .. for a legal guy he has no issues doing illegal things like locking down Muslim neighborhood out of fear
The CBS hosts pressed Cruz on how he thinks it would logistically work to patrol 3 million American Muslims, who are not, as Cruz suggested, “ghetto-ized” in festering radical communities.

Cruz admitted, when asked by co-host Norah O’Donnell that he didn’t know how many Muslims lived in the United States.

“So you’re saying that law enforcement should surveil a number of Muslims and you don’t even know how many Muslims are in America,” she said.

Please note I am not saying this isn't a concern (terrorism) But it is Far from the 1# most dangerous issue America faces Unless your a Conservative a party where you can get Terrorism Immigration and weak Military and for additional introductory offer you can throw in for free Gun grabber Gay marriage or losing religious freedoms abortion or Planned parenthood>>> its like a comcast bundle all BS makes you feel like you got something

Yea anybody with a brain knows we should be more worried about climate change . The sky is falling !
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