Good God do I hate Elizabeth Warren

[nightfighter]

Enough said.....

[Raider Ronnie]

Could you imagine the poor bastard that has to sleep next to that entry bitch every night !
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[tysdad115]

I hate the people that voted that fraud into office, and they'll do it again​.
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[nightfighter]

My alma mater, UMass Amherst, has chosen her to be their commencement speaker. Their reasons for recognizing her thusly made me want to puke. They will never see another dime from me.......

[tysdad115]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

My alma mater, UMass Amherst, has chosen her to be their commencement speaker. Their reasons for recognizing her thusly made me want to puke. They will never see another dime from me.......

You should make sure they know that, your reason for not contributing is their choice of her. Otherwise they'll never know.
Seems most colleges these days tend to preach that BS...Look at the wasted youth coming out of them now and their left ideology.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by tysdad115

Seems most colleges these days tend to preach that BS...Look at the wasted youth coming out of them now and their left ideology.
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That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

Liberty.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

The United States Military Academy
The United States Naval Academy
The United States Air Force Academy

Maybe some of the Jesuit schools like Holy Cross, but that's debatable.

And that's about it. College is becoming an intellectually subtractive experience.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

By the way, how does endless liberal indoctrination help those college kids, Paul? When they only way they can respond to someone who disagrees with them, is to throw a brick through a window, yes, that's quite an "esteemed" student body of violent, unthinking, brain dead anarchists your side is creating.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That is right. People should go to those esteemed right leaning schools - by the way what are those?

The military academies and that's about it. The ratio of liberal vs conservative educators at colleges in the northeast is around 16-1. That itself is what produces wing nut philosophies from those fortunate enough to be in attendance.
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[wdmso]

I am no fan She is just the opposite side of the same coin with Trump

Her fans are are so far left and his so far right they meet

Like Trump I cringe when she speaks because you dont know who's she's going to alienate next Id like to say if she ran for POTUS she would fail , but Trump has set a new standard that anyone can win


Both have mastered getting under the others sides skin

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I am no fan She is just the opposite side of the same coin with Trump

Her fans are are so far left and his so far right they meet

Like Trump I cringe when she speaks because you dont know who's she's going to alienate next Id like to say if she ran for POTUS she would fail , but Trump has set a new standard that anyone can win


Both have mastered getting under the others sides skin

"She is just the opposite side of the same coin with Trump"

Trump is nowhere near the right wing equivalent of Warren. Many conservatives don't like Trump because he's not nearly conservative enough. I've never heard anyone on the left complain that Warren isn't liberal enough.

But I respect your ability to criticize someone on your side, not many can be that honest.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Enough said.....

Best title of a thread, maybe ever...

She lies about being Native American to get a cushy job.

She attacks banks for making profits off student loans, but it's OK for her to make 400k a year teaching at Harvard.

She attacks banks for making profits during the housing crisis, but it was OK for her and her husband to buy foreclosed homes and flip them.

When Obama was president, she said the senate HAD HE DUTY to invoke the nuclear option to break the GOP filibusters. Now she will go berserk when the Republicans do the same thing.

She bemoans the gender pay gap, but she herself pays female staffers less than male staffers.

She is a wretched, wretched woman.

[The Dad Fisherman]

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/m...s-shocked.html

[detbuch]

It is stunning that someone who claims to be moral, fair minded, objective, a centrist who sees the good and bad of all sides, can flat out, without reservation, criticism, or dismay, say that irrational disorderly conduct should be expected from those who have graduated through our educational systems and are currently enrolled and taught in our higher educational institutions.

If he cannot comment on the failure of our supposedly liberal institutions to teach our children the value of free speech and polite moral behavior, then it appears that he is blind to the failure, or embraces the rude, destructive behavior as actually the right and moral thing to do--and lauds our educational system for turning out such beings.

[detbuch]

Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?

He's coming out swinging, that's for sure. He offered to pay for her DNA test to see how much Native American DNA she really has.

I think Warren has set her sights higher than the US Senate. Me think-um that Princess Spreading Bull wants to live in teepee of Great White Chief. Ugh.

I am very happy this post got brought back to life.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?

Hey, isn't this guy a Nazi?

[Duke41]

You can only afford to be a liberal if your young and just starting out or poor and living on handouts. Once you start to take off, it is a luxury you can't afford. I am in favor in helping folks that legitimaly need it, I don't want people dying or living in the streets to other 3rd world countries signing up with the Russians or Chinese. It would be great to cut taxes for all of us. What could you do with an extra 5 or 10 k of your own hard earned money. I live in Mass. This is a list of taxes I have to pay.
Real estate tax
sales tax
federal Tax
social security tax
Auto Excise Tax
Mooring Tax
trash pick fee
dump fee
sports fees
school bus fee
medicare tax
unemployment tax
Equipment Tax
cell phone tax

What I could do with that extra money.

What you could do with that extra money.

What a world.

[The Dad Fisherman]

each party's version of bat-#^&#^&#^&#^& crazy on the same ballot. Yeah, that would be just friggin awesome.

I'm just gonna vote myself off the island

[Jim in CT]

And I love when this thread gets resurrected occasionally, it's the best title of any thread since Al Gore invented the internet.

[Sea Dangles]

Spence has a vote waiting for her
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Spence has a vote waiting for her
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Not likely...don't think it will come to that though.

[spence]

That being said, there's a lot to like about this proposal...

https://www.warren.senate.gov/newsro...capitalism-act

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

That being said, there's a lot to like about this proposal...

https://www.warren.senate.gov/newsro...capitalism-act

Spence salutes...


"It is also cynical. Senator Warren is many things: a crass opportunist, intellectually bankrupt, personally vapid, a peddler of witless self-help books, etc. But she is not stupid. She knows that this is a go-nowhere proposition, that she will be spared by the Republican legislative majority from the ignominy that would ensue from the wholehearted pursuit of this daft program. It is in reality only a means of staking out for purely strategic reasons the most radical corner for her 2020 run at the Democratic presidential nomination. The Democratic party in 2018, like the Republican primary electorate in 2016, is out for blood and desirous of confrontation. So Senator Warren is running this red flag up the flagpole to see who salutes."

[spence]

Actually her proposal brings together a lot of ideas from Republicans and CEO's.

The national review piece you quoted is completely unhinged...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The national review piece you quoted is completely unhinged...

that's funny

[spence]

I don't think the author even knows what a benefit corporation is. Does he know Mike Pence signed it into law in OH?

[Pete F.]

More bad stuff from your favorite Senator

ELIZABETH WARREN ON Tuesday unveiled a sweeping set of reforms that would radically restrict and publicly expose corporate lobbying in Washington.

In a major speech at the National Press Club, she laid out the parameters of what she is calling the “Anti-Corruption Act.” If just half of it were implemented, it could transform the political economy of Washington and fundamentally upend the lawmaking process as it currently exists.

Warren began her speech by noting that only 18 percent of the American people now say that they have trust in the government. “This is the kind of crisis that leads people to turn away from democracy,” she said. “The kind of crisis that creates fertile ground for cynicism and discouragement. The kind of crisis that gives rise to authoritarians.”


In broad strokes, Warren is attempting to take the profit motive out of public service by making it extremely difficult for former lawmakers and government officials to cash in on their government experience, while simultaneously giving Congress and federal agencies the resources needed to effectively govern without the motivated assistance of K Street.

In 1995, when Newt Gingrich and the “Republican Revolution” took over Congress, he systematically dismantled the intellectual infrastructure of the institution, defunding major functions of Congress and slashing budgets for staff. The public-facing explanation was to cut back on wasteful spending, but the true intent was to effectively privatize lawmaking, forcing Congress to outsource much of the work of crafting legislation to K Street. What followed was an explosion in the lobbying industry in Washington.

Warren proposes much stricter restrictions on the revolving door between public service and lobbying, but, more fundamentally, flat-out bans on any lobbying on behalf of foreign governments, an industry that has come under increased scrutiny as a result of the trial of Paul Manafort, who made his fortune carrying water for foreign governments in Washington, often whose interests ran against those of the U.S.

Under current law, foreign agents must register and disclose any contacts with government officials — they would now be banned and under Warren’s law, all lobbyists would have to do what foreign agents do now.

Her bill would also mandate that the IRS release tax returns for candidates, and that the president and vice president be subject to conflict-of-interest laws. She would create a new Office of Public Integrity to enforce the new ethics laws.

The new proposal comes on the heels of the Accountable Capitalism Act, and is a window into what she sees as one of the main functions of government, to be a check against runaway capitalism but in significant ways to strengthen, rather than challenge, the free market. “I am a capitalist to my bones,” Warren said recently, in response to the conversation around democratic socialism.

Where some on the left view markets with deep skepticism, Warren’s ideology sees concentrations of corporate power as a great threat, but views functioning markets as a check against that consolidated power. For markets to function properly, she has long argued, robust government regulation and serious enforcement of laws must be in place, otherwise fraudsters and monopolists ripoff both consumers and investors. That ideology led to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and undergirds her more recent proposals.

The vision is not in conflict with democratic socialist reforms such as Medicare for all (which she supports) or free public college (which she also supports), but it’s more a matter of emphasis. Where Bernie Sanders made eliminating college tuition central to his campaign, Warren has for years focused on exposing abuses by student lenders. Where Sanders has become synonymous with Medicare for all, Warren this year unveiled a plan she argued should be implemented if the loftier goal is out of reach, relying heavily on cracking down on insurance companies and expanding subsidies for purchasers of insurance.

Corporate interests are ideologically opposed to proposals like Medicare for all, and will rally resources to oppose it if and when Congress considers it in a serious way. But Warren’s use of government and law enforcement to reshape the political economy hits corporate America in a visceral way. The animosity for the CFPB is difficult to overstate, as the agency was empowered to launch investigations into corrupt firms that had the capacity to destroy those companies. Bringing the hammer of the law down on Washington corruption will likely be met with an equally visceral reaction.

When it comes to Warren’s proposal, the elephant in the Senate is Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. If Warren were able to ultimately implement some of her anti-corruption agenda, it’s near certain those impacted would challenge elements of it in federal court — courts that Donald Trump is busy stacking with right-wing ideologues. That Warren is pushing forward nonetheless also goes to the heart of her approach to government, which is never to shy from a fight.

“I’m not here to describe the death of democracy. I’m here to talk about fighting back,” she said Tuesday.

[Nebe]

Sounds like the swamp draining I would support.
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