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wdmso · 09-15-2018, 04:22 AM

Manafort plea deal: Trump ex-campaign chief to help Mueller inquiry

pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy against the US and one charge of conspiracy to obstruct justice.

sure it was before he was with Trump

Trump sees it like thats like this.. Sure he was a Russian hitman before I hired him to be my hitman .. I had nothing to do with his past crimes .. Whats the problem ??

Nebe · 09-15-2018, 06:02 AM

It’s just a witch hunt... and it’s all fake news... nothing to see here...
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Jim in CT · 09-15-2018, 06:12 AM

Huge deal for Manafort. Still no direct evidence of Trump collusion, if there is, and it's an impeachable offence, let's impeach him. I'd much rather have Pence in there.

Nebe · 09-15-2018, 06:31 AM

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Huge deal for Manafort. Still no direct evidence of Trump collusion, if there is, and it's an impeachable offence, let's impeach him. I'd much rather have Pence in there.

You want someone who says he talks directly to god with his finger on the nukes ?
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scottw · 09-15-2018, 06:56 AM

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You want someone who says he talks directly to god with his finger on the nukes ?
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pence is better than trump and trump is better than ANY democrat

Jim in CT · 09-15-2018, 07:52 AM

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You want someone who says he talks directly to god with his finger on the nukes ?
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everyone who prays thinks they talk directly to god. i’d rather have a christian in charge of that button, than any atheist. christians, true christians, value life immensely. again, you’re not putting a lot of thought into it.
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Nebe · 09-15-2018, 07:02 AM

Lmao !!!!!
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scottw · 09-15-2018, 07:13 AM

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Lmao !!!!!
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after this latest thing with Kavanaugh...I have no regard for the dems whatsoever...they make trump look like a man of virtue in comparison...which is.... well......a pretty bad look..even for them...break out the big guns...time to battle the undead

JohnR · 09-15-2018, 07:38 AM

I have little regard for either party, currently based on the individual politicians and there are few worth regarding.

Wayne, we need clear and concise proof Trump did something that was actually wrong, illegal . An unwitting agent of Putin for example, not that he wanted dirt on HC. Did he say we'll trade sanctions for RUS hacking and exposing HRC for the witch she is and made an agreement with RUS? That would be for legal experts to determine. If he asked RUS to physically alter the elec results (if they even can) that would be different.

Right now the water is murky with a lot of crap from both sides and the continued silo of crap ain't helping.

scottw · 09-15-2018, 07:55 AM

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I have little regard for either party, currently based on the individual politicians and there are few worth regarding.

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can't argue with that....it's because we elect politicians and not public servants and "politician" has become a career goal

Manafort pleads for things done in 2012 and looks like an Obama lawyer(also Clinton lawyer) will also face charges, does this mean Obama was colluding...should we investigate?

scottw · 09-15-2018, 08:02 AM

interesting from Craig's wiki..." April 2018, Craig resigned from the firm Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, following the indictment of Alex van der Zwaan, a lawyer at the firm's London office. Craig was the lead attorney supervising the firm's work for former Ukrainian president Yanukovich, in which Zwann participated. Zwaan was later charged by Mueller investigation and pleaded guilty to making false statements.[42][44] Later in 2018, NBC and CNN reported that following a referral from Mueller's office, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York was investigating Craig and others, including ex-lobbyist Tony Podesta and former Republican U.S. Representative Vin Weber, as part of a broader investigation into the activities of Paul Manafort."

London?....Podesta?

Does Craig have a show on MSNBC yet?

spence · 09-15-2018, 08:30 AM

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Wayne, we need clear and concise proof Trump did something that was actually wrong, illegal . An unwitting agent of Putin for example, not that he wanted dirt on HC. Did he say we'll trade sanctions for RUS hacking and exposing HRC for the witch she is and made an agreement with RUS? That would be for legal experts to determine. If he asked RUS to physically alter the elec results (if they even can) that would be different.

The bar isn’t nearly that high, solid evidence of obstruction is easily enough.
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scottw · 09-15-2018, 09:13 AM

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The bar isn’t nearly that high, solid evidence of obstruction is easily enough.
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obstructing what?

Jim in CT · 09-15-2018, 07:54 AM

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after this latest thing with Kavanaugh...I have no regard for the dems whatsoever...they make trump look like a man of virtue in comparison...which is.... well......a pretty bad look..even for them...break out the big guns...time to battle the undead

it was a new low, the kavanaugh hearings, it really was. even justice ginsberg called it out as wrong. and none of the dems here has anything to say about it. it’s a cult.
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Pete F. · 09-15-2018, 10:22 AM

Who funded Trump thru Deutsche Bank?
Where did the cash come from that bought golf courses?
This is a long con that started with Sater years ago
Kompromat doesn’t have to be about sex, dirty money works
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JohnR · 09-15-2018, 11:03 AM

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Who funded Trump thru Deutsche Bank?
Where did the cash come from that bought golf courses?
This is a long con that started with Sater years ago
Kompromat doesn’t have to be about sex, dirty money works
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This is where our concerns overlap. IF and big IF, evidence of RUS influence over DJT and money laundering can be proven, as well as the resulting influence that kompromat it would have - Mueller MUST prosecute it. But he has to prove it. We will be in a Constitutional crisis if we are not in one now. But it must be proven and both sides of the aisle need to do what they are currently inescapable of doing, an honest approach to gov.

RIROCKHOUND · 09-15-2018, 11:07 AM

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This is where our concerns overlap. IF and big IF, evidence of RUS influence over DJT and money laundering can be proven, as well as the resulting influence that kompromat it would have - Mueller MUST prosecute it. But he has to prove it. We will be in a Constitutional crisis if we are not in one now. But it must be proven and both sides of the aisle need to do what they are currently inescapable of doing, an honest approach to gov.

I agreed up through the words money laundering. That’s where we disagree. With or without Russian interference , if it was illegal, then indicte, or kick it to the appropriate prosecutor, i.e. SNY and go from there.

I don’t actually want this. DJT is much less effective than Pence as a pol., particularly if you are concerned about social issues from the left.
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scottw · 09-15-2018, 11:14 AM

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I don’t actually want this. DJT is much less effective than Pence as a pol., particularly if you are concerned about social issues from the left.
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so you prefer the greater of two evils?

RIROCKHOUND · 09-15-2018, 11:18 AM

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so you prefer the greater of two evils?

I prefer DJT with a Democratic House. Senate seems less likely. He has not shown himself to be the deal maker he claimed to be.

2 more years of DJT and I think he will sink himself for 2020. I worry bout a sympathy vote for pence if trump is ousted before 2020.
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scottw · 09-15-2018, 11:05 AM

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Who funded Trump thru Deutsche Bank? the Germans?
Where did the cash come from that bought golf courses? greens fees?
This is a long con that started with Sater years ago you mean Satan?
Kompromat doesn’t have to be about sex, dirty money works ?
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desperate?

has Carter Page been charged with anything yet?..that's where the con started

Pete F. · 09-15-2018, 02:12 PM

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desperate?

has Carter Page been charged with anything yet?..that's where the con started

My life goes on, not very desperately
Do you think Deutsche Bank is only in Germany?
Somehow after a number of failed deals when banks want nothing to do with you, you appear with cash to buy golf courses. Jr bragged that they didn’t need American banks, they had all the money they needed from Russia
Felix Sater is a Russian mobster, convicted felon and partnered with Trump in projects
But you should believe Trump because he wouldn’t lie
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scottw · 09-15-2018, 02:44 PM

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My life goes on, not very desperately
Do you think Deutsche Bank is only in Germany?
Somehow after a number of failed deals when banks want nothing to do with you, you appear with cash to buy golf courses. Jr bragged that they didn’t need American banks, they had all the money they needed from Russia
Felix Sater is a Russian mobster, convicted felon and partnered with Trump in projects
But you should believe Trump because he wouldn’t lie
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and stuff goes right over your head

Pete F. · 09-16-2018, 11:54 AM

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and stuff goes right over your head

No I just don’t buy the deep state conspiracy theory
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Sea Dangles · 09-15-2018, 04:06 PM

Ha
Not the first time
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Got Stripers · 09-16-2018, 01:57 PM

Manafort taking a plea deal and agreeing to cooperate is probably bad news for those higher up the ladder and there aren’t too many rungs left. I can only hope the end comes soon after the mid terms and all the cards are on the table and this is in the hands of Congress.
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