Why Citrus Caligula is melting down

[Pete F.]

Quinnipiac poll out today

All Top Dems Beat Trump As Voters' Economic Outlook Dims Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Dem Primary Stays Stable With Biden Holding The Lead

The Economy

For the first time since President Trump was elected, more voters say that the national economy is getting worse than getting better, with 37 percent saying it is getting worse, 31 percent saying it is getting better, and 30 percent saying it is staying the same. This compares to a June 11, 2019 poll in which 23 percent of voters said that the national economy is getting worse, 39 percent said it is getting better, and 37 percent said it is staying the same.

When asked to rate the state of the nation's economy, 61 percent of voters say that it is excellent or good, while 37 percent say that it is not so good or poor. These numbers, while still clearly positive on the economy, are the lowest excellent/good economy numbers found by the Quinnipiac University Poll since April 2018. Voters also say that President Trump's policies are hurting the nation's economy at 41 percent, while 37 percent say that they are helping, and 20 percent say that his policies make no difference.

"As trade tensions with China dominate the headlines, confidence in the economy is slipping," adds Mary Snow. "The number of people who think the economy is getting worse rose by double digits since June. And roughly 4 in 10 voters blame the President's policies, saying they are hurting the economy, the highest level since Trump took office."

Trump's approval for his handling of the economy is split, with 46 percent approving and 49 percent disapproving. On his handling of other issues, the president is decidedly underwater:
38 - 56 percent approval for his handling of foreign policy;
38 - 59 percent approval for his handling of immigration issues;
38 - 54 percent approval for his handling of trade;
38 - 53 percent approval for his handling of gun policy;
32 - 62 percent approval for his handling of race relations.
In addition, 62 percent of voters say that President Trump is doing more to divide the country as president, while 30 percent say that he is doing more to unite the country - an all-time low. These numbers may help explain why only 36 percent of voters report that they are very or somewhat satisfied with the way things are going in the nation today.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...2oRmCI.twitter

[Slipknot]

"For the first time since President Trump was elected, more voters say that the national economy is getting worse than getting better, with 37 percent saying it is getting worse, 31 percent saying it is getting better, and 30 percent saying it is staying the same."


play on words as it discounts the 30 percent who think it is staying the same which is not worse. Therefore 61 is somehow less than 37.

They didn't ask me and I am a voter.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

"For the first time since President Trump was elected, more voters say that the national economy is getting worse than getting better, with 37 percent saying it is getting worse, 31 percent saying it is getting better, and 30 percent saying it is staying the same."


play on words as it discounts the 30 percent who think it is staying the same which is not worse. Therefore 61 is somehow less than 37.

They didn't ask me and I am a voter.

Actually what you just said is a play on words.
37 worse is more than 31 better, the no change doesn't count.
If you word it as more people think the economy is the same or improving than getting worse, you would be spinning it in that direction and the converse (worse or the same) is also true.

The significant part is not the numbers, but the change in how people feel. That is in the next sentence:This compares to a June 11, 2019 poll in which 23 percent of voters said that the national economy is getting worse, 39 percent said it is getting better, and 37 percent said it is staying the same.

It's a poll, not an election, but if this trend continues it doesn't bode well for Trump.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Actually what you just said is a play on words.
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my point exactly

spin results


the key to economy would be to not have too high of highs and too low of lows, extremes are what we don't want too much of and artificially holding off recession is bad. I think we have been there, done that. Maybe we don't learn or greed gets in the way

God Bless America

[Sea Dangles]

Didn’t their poll predict Hillary would win?🤡
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Didn’t their poll predict Hillary would win?🤡
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liberals aren’t all that interested in empirical results. they’re quite willing to ignore empirical data to protect The Narrative. Rachael Maddow was saying the only question was the magnitude of Hilary’s rout, and people still listen to her.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Didn’t their poll predict Hillary would win?🤡
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It's amazing that pollsters might have challenges when the leading candidate is announced to be under investigation days before an election. The science must be completely BS.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

It's amazing that pollsters might have challenges when the leading candidate is announced to be under investigation days before an election. The science must be completely BS.

Too soon still Jeff?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Too soon still Jeff?
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Is reality that hard to process?

[Raider Ronnie]

Keep believing the news networks you morons 🤪
All you got to do is see the crowds when Trump makes campaign stops in most any state of the country.
Packed stadiums and thousands outside wanting to get in.
Dems give their campaign speeches at high school gymnasiums that are 1/2 empty or more but the camera crews do their magic to make them appear to be full.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Keep believing the news networks you morons 🤪
All you got to do is see the crowds when Trump makes campaign stops in most any state of the country.
Packed stadiums and thousands outside wanting to get in.
Dems give their campaign speeches at high school gymnasiums that are 1/2 empty or more but the camera crews do their magic to make them appear to be full.
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yup....the only reason people go to democrat rallies is because they think they're giving away free stuff

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Keep believing the news networks you morons 🤪
All you got to do is see the crowds when Trump makes campaign stops in most any state of the country.
Packed stadiums and thousands outside wanting to get in.
Dems give their campaign speeches at high school gymnasiums that are 1/2 empty or more but the camera crews do their magic to make them appear to be full.
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another one dazzled by crowd size .. the New trumpian scientific method Maybe?? ... you should pay attention who are absent at his rallies...

your observation doesn't explain how he lost the popular vote 3 million votes

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

your observation doesn't explain how he lost the popular vote 3 million votes

sure it does. he didn’t bother having rallies in CA or CT or IL. I’m betting he loses the popular vote by a larger margin next time, as voter turnout will be astronomical in places like CA and CT. not sure what it will mean electorally.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

not sure what it will mean electorally.
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It really means nothing.

Who wins the World Series, the team that scores the most runs or the team that wins the most games?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

It really means nothing.

Who wins the World Series, the team that scores the most runs or the team that wins the most games?
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i get what you’re saying. but if trump hatred translates to astronomical liberal voter turnout in the swing states too, then it does mean something electorally. that’s really the key question.

i think a lot of democrats stayed home in 2016, because they thought hilary was a lock to win. that won’t happen in 2020.
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[Sea Dangles]

Let’s wait and see what due process brings before we make assumptions. Funny you haven’t known about such. Haha. He is your leader if you forgot.
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[Sea Dangles]

What is the popular vote?
Is it some type of contest?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

What is the popular vote?
Is it some type of contest?
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yes, and you get a participation trophy but that's about it

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

What is the popular vote?
Is it some type of contest?
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I think that’s how the pick the Prom Queen
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

What is the popular vote?
Is it some type of contest?
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Seems crowd sizes at trump rallies are according to ronnie. Ask him
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[Sea Dangles]

It was actually a rhetorical question. Food for snowflakes who devour that type of thing.
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