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12-13-2019, 10:36 AM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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Winter fishing help
That time of year ladies and gents, I don't run offshore but I don't ice fish either.
Anyone here fish brackish water during the winter time or even freshwater fish?
Brackish water, what gear should I use? Been reading that white perch are the ticket in brackish but also trout show their faces. Yet a resident striper can be lurking (that's a lot of different line weights and lures to go through).
Brackish always intrigued me, but unsure how to approach it.
Last edited by Zeal; 12-17-2019 at 11:20 AM..
Reason: White perch, not bass
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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12-14-2019, 12:25 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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For schoolies and shad, approach with very small jigs and plastics.
Same stuff, just smaller ; )
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12-14-2019, 01:12 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,615
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Winter schoolie fishing for me always involved a 3/8oz kalin ultimate jig head and one of my 4" split tails in a smoke/silver glitter color. Depends on the system on depth, at the Thames River it could be 25 feet in the middle of the channel, on a southeastern mass holdover spot, right up in the shallows on a sunny day was the ticket, as the muddy flats warmed up quicker. No clue on white perch, the only time I targeted them was when fishing inland ME lakes.
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12-14-2019, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Gave a good go at it couple winters ago...
Several locations On several days, mostly brackish, small white jig with one of those white rubber grubs....
Had one good tap ! :-)
No matter, drifting around in a 12’ tinny in February with moderate temps and the sun out is hard to beat....
I’ve got a spot all picked out for turn of the year.... 
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12-14-2019, 04:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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I,ve been known to fish a little of that ...But NY .I,d rather chase women ><><

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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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12-15-2019, 07:21 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Use to fish the back of the ponds in SoCo with small storm shad and teasers.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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12-15-2019, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 5,515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer
I,ve been known to fish a little of that ...But NY .I,d rather chase women ><><

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But now they run much faster than you... 
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12-15-2019, 09:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,748
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Smelt are a good go to this time of year, although not as abundant as the once were, small Swedish pimple or kastmaters tipped with sea worm or grass shrimp fished off docks, and bridges over tidal creeks can provide enough for a lmeal , while providing some fresh air and exercise.
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12-15-2019, 11:24 AM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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Guppy .I got a electric stun gun ………. it does the job .
I have a friend that use to brink grass shrimp to the Boston bait shops & then bring back a mess of smelt ………….that was many, many years ago ><>
But I do have some live mummies right now <><

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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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12-17-2019, 11:23 AM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
Smelt are a good go to this time of year, although not as abundant as the once were, small Swedish pimple or kastmaters tipped with sea worm or grass shrimp fished off docks, and bridges over tidal creeks can provide enough for a lmeal , while providing some fresh air and exercise.
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Is there a good way to get grass shrimp to use as bait? I have a seine net and umbrella net lying around. Do you just bottom rig them?
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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12-17-2019, 12:06 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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Back in my freshwater days, there was a guy near my home that sold grass shrimp out of his garage and man were they killer on the cape for smallmouth and perch. I'd anchor up in a spot that used to produce every year, put a handful in a paper bag with a rock, twist the top just enough to slow the release of the live chum once on the bottom. It was a fun way to kill a cold winter day and the cape usually only iced up briefly on the larger bodies, like long pond in Harwich my go to.
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12-17-2019, 12:36 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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ZEAL , here in RI its much more difficult to catch than years ago ………………….. when in my early years many bait shops sold them none do anymore . same with mummies ……. not many if any carry them anymore .
I work real had to get what I do catch & honestly I can get enough shrimp to freshwater fish .but not enough to get the saltwater going . I could probably get enough for Boston smelt fishing .
like a lot of species in the backwaters . they have seriously decline to the point most people don,t even know a few still exist..
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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12-17-2019, 02:09 PM
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#13
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,615
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My winter fishing sometimes involved friends willing to break a sweat to bust ice, but the rewards sometimes were large, I certainly miss those days of plenty. Back then a slow day at the Thames was 75 fish, with a keeper or two likely thrown in for good measure, then a certain friend GB turned me on to a lesser known and almost as productive spot in southeastern mass, meaning an hour less drive time and no CT license involved. Sadly those days of plenty are long gone and my friend tells me no boating access any longer to that old spot, unless you want a ticket. I miss my old fishing buddy Drew, he fell in love with a girl from Alabama and lives south now, we had some very productive winter outings. Clammer and his sidekick joined in several times and you know Mike, always good for a laugh.
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12-18-2019, 09:40 AM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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Sounds like I'm better off going for the freshwater and just using that gear for brackish (and hope to not get spooled by a striper when going for sea run trout or perch)!
I remember the huge decline in the mummies/killie population here from brown and red tides killing them off back in the 90s (man those prices skyrocketed in bait shops).
Grass shrimp I never saw in a shop (usually were bycatch with spearing).
I have to say, I am curious about one thing: do winter stripers fight like the winter largemouth where they feel more like a wet rag on the end of your line rather than the other seasons where you gotta hang on? Got fooled on a cold lake early spring thinking I had weed on the end of my line and it was me dragging a 2 lb LM with no fight in it save a head shake right when I went to grab it at my yak!
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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12-18-2019, 11:03 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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I can answer that question on fight, that 42 lber in the picture was caught on 10# fluorocarbon and the fight wasn't all that spectacular, but early fall or early spring with some warming water, they can put up a nice fight for sure.
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12-18-2019, 12:34 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I can answer that question on fight, that 42 lber in the picture was caught on 10# fluorocarbon and the fight wasn't all that spectacular, but early fall or early spring with some warming water, they can put up a nice fight for sure.
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Nice looking fish....anytime of the year.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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