Fact check his speech if you dare

[Got Stripers]

Go ahead I dare you.

[Sea Dangles]

Only when you spellcheck your posts.

It was a perfect speech.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It was a perfect speech.
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From a political perspective, you're probably right. The policies he touched on, and the guests he brilliantly selected to humanize those policies, are guaranteed to fire up his base. Additionally, he got those hens dressed in white and Pelosi to display themselves at their absolute ugliest. I am constantly amazed at his ability to do this.

Their repugnant actions will increase their margin of victory in CA and NY, and help Trump in the swing states which will decide the election. The only commercials he needs to run in swing states, are showing Pelosi ripping up the speech (amid images of Trump celebrating economic success, a surviving Tuskagee airman, and celebrating the spectacular life of a toddler born at 21 weeks), and the CNN panel, in a rare moment of honest clarity, telling the 63 million Americans who voted for Trump, what they think of them.

Victories don't get much more lopsided, than the one Trump is enjoying over his adversaries right now. The democrats blew impeachment (Trumps approval ratings went up 10 points during the process), and they obviously blew the caucus. Maybe next week they can try to boil water, something more their speed. And they want to control my healthcare? No thanks.

I'm old enough to remember Pelosi suggesting a Republican congressman get censured for mocking Obama at the SOTU (that was an awful display). Last night, there was a whole section of hens in white jeering him, and Pelosi ripping the speech.

They're so consumed with TDS that they don't see that they are helping to ensure his re election. These are professional politicians, how do they not see that? How much are the paying their political consultants, who are telling them "the way to beat Trump is to embrace full fledged socialism, abortions in the 9th month, reparations, and green new deals."

It's as if they feel that what will get them more votes in Manhattan and San Francisco, will get them more votes in Florida and NC. It doesn't work that way. How can they not know this? Almost everything they do, helps Trump. Who are they listening to? Who is advising them?

[Pete F.]

Lie #1

"enacting historic and record-setting tax cuts.”

The Floridaman tax cut, according to Treasury Department data, is nearly 0.9 percent of GDP — compared to 2.89 percent of GDP for Ronald Reagan’s 1981 tax cut, the actual largest tax cut. When measured as a share of the U.S. economy, Floridaman’s tax cut is the eighth-largest in the past century.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #1

"enacting historic and record-setting tax cuts.”

The Floridaman tax cut, according to Treasury Department data, is nearly 0.9 percent of GDP — compared to 2.89 percent of GDP for Ronald Reagan’s 1981 tax cut, the actual largest tax cut. When measured as a share of the U.S. economy, Floridaman’s tax cut is the eighth-largest in the past century.

Actually, I don't know what a record-setting tax cut is. It would be good to know what record he's talking about. The statistical version you present is a calculation of the percent of GDP. Don't know if that's what Trump was referring to. Or if he was referring to the economic impact of creating more jobs and more total federal revenue being realized. I understand that you want to figure out some way to make it a "lie." It's more like a matter of opinion. Different versions have been printed in different sources. Depends on which source fits your preferred narrative.

[Pete F.]

Lie #2

“Under my administration, 7 million Americans have come off of food stamps.”

About 4.2 million people (not 7 million) have stopped receiving food stamps since February 2017.
The number of people collecting benefits has been declining since fiscal year 2014.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #2

“Under my administration, 7 million Americans have come off of food stamps.”

About 4.2 million people (not 7 million) have stopped receiving food stamps since February 2017.
The number of people collecting benefits has been declining since fiscal year 2014.

I doubt that Trump just made up a fictitious number. Different sources have stated different numbers. Whatever the actual number is, or which source you want to believe, it is a significantly large number.

[Pete F.]

Lie #3

“Since my election, the net worth of the bottom half of wage earners has increased by 47 percent — three times faster than the increase for the top 1 percent.”

Net worth for the bottom half has gone up, but it was from such a low base that it’s pretty silly to call it a boom. People in the bottom half have essentially no wealth — just 1.6 percent of the nation’s wealth — as debts cancel out whatever assets they might have. The top 5 percent hold more than 70 percent of all net worth in the United States.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #3

“Since my election, the net worth of the bottom half of wage earners has increased by 47 percent — three times faster than the increase for the top 1 percent.”

Net worth for the bottom half has gone up, but it was from such a low base that it’s pretty silly to call it a boom. People in the bottom half have essentially no wealth — just 1.6 percent of the nation’s wealth — as debts cancel out whatever assets they might have. The top 5 percent hold more than 70 percent of all net worth in the United States.

so in other words, it was true? but you’re calling it a lie? that’s not crazy.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #3

“Since my election, the net worth of the bottom half of wage earners has increased by 47 percent — three times faster than the increase for the top 1 percent.”

Net worth for the bottom half has gone up, but it was from such a low base that it’s pretty silly to call it a boom. People in the bottom half have essentially no wealth — just 1.6 percent of the nation’s wealth — as debts cancel out whatever assets they might have. The top 5 percent hold more than 70 percent of all net worth in the United States.

You don't even describe it as a lie. You just seem to use it as an occasion to complain about inequities in percentages of total wealth.

[Pete F.]

Lie #4

“Thanks to our bold regulatory reduction campaign, the United States has become the number one producer of oil and natural gas in the world, by far.”

The United States has led the world in natural gas production since 2009. Crude oil production has been increasing rapidly since 2010. The United States was the top producer in 2013. In September 2018, the United States once again passed both Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the largest global crude oil producer. But the energy revolution he takes credit for began under Obama.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #4

“Thanks to our bold regulatory reduction campaign, the United States has become the number one producer of oil and natural gas in the world, by far.”

The United States has led the world in natural gas production since 2009. Crude oil production has been increasing rapidly since 2010. The United States was the top producer in 2013. In September 2018, the United States once again passed both Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the largest global crude oil producer. But the energy revolution he takes credit for began under Obama.

You have not pointed out a lie (e.g. "the United States once again passed both Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the largest global crude oil producer."), you just disagree that Trump should get credit for it.

[Pete F.]

Lie #5

“With the tremendous progress we have made over the past three years, America is now energy independent.”

The United States continues to import energy. “In 2018, the United States imported about 9.94 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from nearly 90 countries,” according to an Energy Information Agency report, with 43 percent coming from Canada and 16 percent from Persian Gulf countries.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #5

“With the tremendous progress we have made over the past three years, America is now energy independent.”

The United States continues to import energy. “In 2018, the United States imported about 9.94 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from nearly 90 countries,” according to an Energy Information Agency report, with 43 percent coming from Canada and 16 percent from Persian Gulf countries.

We export more than we import. Ergo, we are technically independent. That we still import has to do with various economic and political reasons.

[Pete F.]

Lie #6

“The USMCA will create nearly 100,000 new high-paying American auto jobs.”

This is an invented figure. The USITC report said the agreement would create about 28,000 jobs in the auto sector.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #6

“The USMCA will create nearly 100,000 new high-paying American auto jobs.”

This is an invented figure. The USITC report said the agreement would create about 28,000 jobs in the auto sector.

So who invented Trump's figure. Are you saying that he just decided to invent it. And that he doesn't believe it to be true? It is a projected number so is not verifiable. An opinion probably theorized by some economic adviser. Apparently, there is an agreement that it will create a significant number of auto jobs, among other jobs and economic benefits.

[Pete F.]

Lie #7

“To safeguard American liberty, we have invested a record-breaking $2.2 trillion in the United States military.”

Floridaman is just talking about three years of defense funding added up together. On an inflation-adjusted basis, not one year of Floridaman’s defense budgets has exceeded the high point in 2010 under Obama.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #7

“To safeguard American liberty, we have invested a record-breaking $2.2 trillion in the United States military.”

Floridaman is just talking about three years of defense funding added up together. On an inflation-adjusted basis, not one year of Floridaman’s defense budgets has exceeded the high point in 2010 under Obama.

He didn't say it was a one year budget. It's more like you're lying.

[Pete F.]

Lie #8

“We will always protect patients with preexisting conditions.”

In an ongoing court case, the Floridaman administration is supporting a total repeal of the Affordable Care Act — including its guarantee that patients can’t be denied coverage for preexisting conditions. Republicans in Congress tried for years to repeal the whole law. Floridaman has not presented a plan to cover the gaps in case the court challenge is successful. Moreover, he has promoted short-term plans (which he touted in his speech) that are not required to cover preexisting conditions.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #8

“We will always protect patients with preexisting conditions.”

In an ongoing court case, the Floridaman administration is supporting a total repeal of the Affordable Care Act — including its guarantee that patients can’t be denied coverage for preexisting conditions. Republicans in Congress tried for years to repeal the whole law. Floridaman has not presented a plan to cover the gaps in case the court challenge is successful. Moreover, he has promoted short-term plans (which he touted in his speech) that are not required to cover preexisting conditions.

Debatable, but a stretch to call it a lie. More of a political promise (most of which, by most politicians, can be characterized as lies--as in the lies told to pass Obamacare) to create a different approach, other than Obamacare, which would include pre-existing conditions. And that would have to be done by Congress.

[Pete F.]

Lie #9

“In the Senate, we have confirmed a record number of 187 new federal judges.”

It’s not a record. Floridaman has a long way to go to have appointed the most federal judges. Reagan has the record, with 383, followed by Bill Clinton with 378 and then Obama with 329. Through Jan. 18, 2020, 187 judges nominated by Floridaman have been confirmed by the Senate.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #9

“In the Senate, we have confirmed a record number of 187 new federal judges.”

It’s not a record. Floridaman has a long way to go to have appointed the most federal judges. Reagan has the record, with 383, followed by Bill Clinton with 378 and then Obama with 329. Through Jan. 18, 2020, 187 judges nominated by Floridaman have been confirmed by the Senate.

Your numbers for Reagan, Clinton, and Obama, were for two full terms. The 187 number (which Trump did not come up with on his own) is referred to as a record for this point in his administration. Again, he is parroting published stats, not concocting some number he made up and which he doesn't even believe.

[Pete F.]

Lie #10

“Three years ago, the barbarians of ISIS held over 20,000 square miles of territory in Iraq and Syria. Today, the ISIS territorial caliphate has been 100 percent destroyed, and the founder and leader of ISIS — the bloodthirsty killer known as Al‑Baghdadi — is dead!”

The U.S. military warned, in a report issued the day Trump spoke, that ISIS remained a dangerous threat and the killing of Baghdadi did not degrade the group’s capabilities. “USCENTCOM told the DoD OIG [Office of the Inspector General] that following the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group’s capabilities in Syria remained the same,” the report said. “USCENTCOM said that ISIS remained cohesive, with an intact command and control structure, urban clandestine networks, and an insurgent presence in much of rural Syria.”

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Lie #10

“Three years ago, the barbarians of ISIS held over 20,000 square miles of territory in Iraq and Syria. Today, the ISIS territorial caliphate has been 100 percent destroyed, and the founder and leader of ISIS — the bloodthirsty killer known as Al‑Baghdadi — is dead!”

The U.S. military warned, in a report issued the day Trump spoke, that ISIS remained a dangerous threat and the killing of Baghdadi did not degrade the group’s capabilities. “USCENTCOM told the DoD OIG [Office of the Inspector General] that following the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group’s capabilities in Syria remained the same,” the report said. “USCENTCOM said that ISIS remained cohesive, with an intact command and control structure, urban clandestine networks, and an insurgent presence in much of rural Syria.”

He didn't say ISIS was totally destroyed. He said that its territorial caliphate was 100% destroyed. That could mean various things regarding its geographic ability to project power. Mostly his opinion, with his usual ability to exaggerate. But it is certain that ISIS was very SEVERELY damaged and its momentum reversed--much more so than was happening before.

[Pete F.]

You just keep believing in what Floridaman claims, he might deserve a new name soon with some of his policies "Orange Obama"

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You just keep believing in what Floridaman claims, he might deserve a new name soon with some of his policies "Orange Obama"

You also deserve a new name...”bitchslapped boy”.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You also deserve a new name...”bitchslapped boy”.
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Coming from the master of the immature insult?

It took the height deprived imbecile a day to decide that if he was not a moron, I must have insulted his mother and then his head exploded.
And even then he only got insulted because the Trumplicans egged him on.
He's definitely sitting in the low chair watching the world whiz by over his head.

[Pete F.]

My apologies, I don't have time for the other 30

[piemma]

Pete F. You have too much time on your hands.

[Got Stripers]

Since he is clearly running on the economy, I find his lies about the differences between his and the past administration the most offensive. He hasn't created more jobs, wages when inflation is factored aren't higher, look at most recent past presidents and their growth rate is significantly higher, the lies just keep on coming. But I do know his base eats that stuff like candy, they don't care because they hate the democrats and want to hold on for four more years.

I new Pete would follow quickly, saves me typing, but some of the lies are just outrageous. The one about pre-existing conditions is ridiculous, since they have done everything legally they can possibly do to eliminate all aspects of Obama Care.

Carry on, nothing will change, the lies will continue and we will continue to be governed by tweet.