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06-19-2020, 12:09 PM
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Happy Juneteenth
Stronger together
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06-19-2020, 06:49 PM
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I think strong people can walk down ramps by themselves, know England is a nuclear contender, know Finland is not a part of Russia, be able to drink water without needing a walker, and realize that McCarthur is not MacGuyver.
Maybe you guys have smarter role models.
This one is brain dead.
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06-19-2020, 06:55 PM
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Don’t wish the virus on anyone, but apparently Trump doesn’t care as long as he can have his moment, if a few supporters die it’s for a good cause. Can you say desperation, his poll numbers are dismal for “the best president of our lifetime”.
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06-19-2020, 07:04 PM
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Dude,
It’s the perfect example of natural selection.
I encourage all to attend sans masks.
I thought smoking would kill the Redd Hats, but I guess it’s gonna be just dumb luck.
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06-19-2020, 08:59 PM
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Guys, find your own thread to bash politics. This is to celebrate Juneteenth.
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06-19-2020, 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Guys, find your own thread to bash politics. This is to celebrate Juneteenth.
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No Chit, just wow. Talk about rent Free.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-20-2020, 06:08 AM
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I'll bite.
Juneteenth should be a federal holiday (not at the expense of Columbus day) as it marks the day when all slaves were "freed".
I tend to look at other hard dates like the Emancipation Proclamation, or when the actual work was being done by Sherman from Chattanooga to Atlanta to the Sea to Raleigh
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06-20-2020, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Guys, find your own thread to bash politics. This is to celebrate Juneteenth.
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Yeah sure, but your Potus chose that date and location to hold a rally all his own health experts say is a really bad idea, so no the most abrasive person on this board doesn’t get a pass.
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06-20-2020, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yeah sure, but your Potus chose that date and location to hold a rally all his own health experts say is a really bad idea, so no the most abrasive person on this board doesn’t get a pass.
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It's OK, all the other Health Experts that said it was OK to gather in massive groups over 2 weeks to protest.
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06-20-2020, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
It's OK, all the other Health Experts that said it was OK to gather in massive groups over 2 weeks to protest.
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Inside no masks close quarters and outside majority with masks moving about yes. their close but the 2 are not remotely the same
Saw one example Trump rally 18x more likely to transmit covid
The protesters are not wanted by the POTUS or many Americans
But Trump has promoted his rally encouraging no masks by his cabinet's example sign wavers and pass out masks and handsantizer , as a ploy to show responsibility.. mixed messages that's an understatement but the Typical trump supporters its  unless Trump says different then its   for joy
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06-20-2020, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Yeah sure, but your Potus chose that date and location to hold a rally all his own health experts say is a really bad idea, so no the most abrasive person on this board doesn’t get a pass.
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Like most liberals you cannot stay focused. I hope you realize that he is also your president dummy.It’s too bad we just can’t celebrate Juneteenth without being political
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06-20-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Like most liberals you cannot stay focused. I hope you realize that he is also your president dummy.It’s too bad we just can’t celebrate Juneteenth without being political
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You do realize this is a political forum and just because he is my president, doesn’t mean I don’t support him, my opinion of him is the complete opposite of yours. His choice of the date and location opens him and you by association up to criticism, I guess if you didn’t want that post thread to become political, it should have gone elsewhere.
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06-20-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
You do realize this is a political forum and just because he is my president, doesn’t mean I don’t support him, my opinion of him is the complete opposite of yours. His choice of the date and location opens him and you by association up to criticism, I guess if you didn’t want that post thread to become political, it should have gone elsewhere.
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This is a good example of how much liberals hate black people
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06-20-2020, 05:01 PM
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This thread was about showing some respect to a race which has been oppressed for hundreds of years and recognizing their independence. Too bad you had to make it about you. Done here with your racism.
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Keep on criticizing Juneteenth.
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06-20-2020, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
This thread was about showing some respect to a race which has been oppressed for hundreds of years and recognizing their independence. Too bad you had to make it about you. Done here with your racism.
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Keep on criticizing Juneteenth.
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You suggesting your taking the high road is f*cking hilarious, you have lived on the low road for as long as I’ve been posting here. I’m not criticizing Juneteenth, just the best president of our lifetime picking that day and that spot to hold a rally where he will do what he does best, divide and promote exactly what he probably hopes will happen outside.
Good try, but hey I applaud your attempt to make my post something it wasn’t.
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06-20-2020, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
You suggesting your taking the high road is f*cking hilarious, you have lived on the low road for as long as I’ve been posting here. I’m not criticizing Juneteenth, just the best president of our lifetime picking that day and that spot to hold a rally where he will do what he does best, divide and promote exactly what he probably hopes will happen outside.
Good try, but hey I applaud your attempt to make my post something it wasn’t.
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So I recognize Juneteenth.
You take that opportunity to make it about OUR President for some reason (TDS).
You refuse to yield nor join me in my tribute.
But I made your post something it wasn’t.🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I get it.
F the blacks and their holiday
Trump lives in your head and you can’t escape it long enough to show some civility. Nor resist the urge to display your bias.
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06-20-2020, 06:17 PM
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Quit stirring the pot Chris.
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06-20-2020, 06:50 PM
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Quit stirring the pot Chris.
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When he says Happy Juneteenth
If he doesn’t say it, you know what happens next.
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06-21-2020, 06:36 AM
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I bought this last year....only example I've seen in 30 some years of doing what I do and the earliest Emancipation item in pottery/porcelain item I've seen....this is the first date of Emancipation following the British Slavery Abolition Act 1833 which began in the British West Indies, interesting to read about because it wasn't full Emancipation till 1838 most continued to work under apprenticeships till 1838...
Juneteenth should be a National holiday 
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06-21-2020, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Inside no masks close quarters and outside majority with masks moving about yes. their close but the 2 are not remotely the same
Saw one example Trump rally 18x more likely to transmit covid
The protesters are not wanted by the POTUS or many Americans
But Trump has promoted his rally encouraging no masks by his cabinet's example sign wavers and pass out masks and handsantizer , as a ploy to show responsibility.. mixed messages that's an understatement but the Typical trump supporters its  unless Trump says different then its   for joy
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It is the same. Ten thousand people in a confined space for 4 hours in one session versus a million people over two weeks in multiple sessions in many locations with some distancing and some mask wearing.
One side gets hammered by the press and medical profs and the other side gets hugs.
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Originally Posted by scottw
I bought this last year....only example I've seen in 30 some years of doing what I do and the earliest Emancipation item in pottery/porcelain item I've seen....this is the first date of Emancipation following the British Slavery Abolition Act 1833 which began in the British West Indies, interesting to read about because it wasn't full Emancipation till 1838 most continued to work under apprenticeships till 1838...
Juneteenth should be a National holiday 
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Very interesting.
Also interesting, France and England abolished slavery at different times but still somewhat before the US. But when France and Britain hold their noses at us one must remember they stopped it just before we did and they were responsible for it in the Americas.
England stopped the Slave Trade in the early 1800s but did not abolish it until 1833.
France abolished slavery in 1798?? but Bonaparte restarted and it lasted another 30 years.
England started the West Africa Squadron early 1800s to STOP slave ships from Africa to the Americas (vast majority NOT to the USA) and the US Navy started assisting them a dozen years later.
The USS Constitution was the US Navy's Flagship of a couple Anti- Slavery patrols and captured a Slaver on her last actual tour of Duty as a combatant.
So Western slavery, which existed for over a 1000 years (total 10,000 years??) was being (finally) exhaustively strangled during the 1800s. France and England beat us by a couple decades, the decreed it, we had to go to war to stop it.
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06-21-2020, 01:31 PM
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Very interesting.
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a friend of mine has the largest private collection of anti-slavery ceramics in the country...it is fascinating...some of the items are here
http://www.chipstone.org/images.php/...7%E2%80%931865
if you have some time to peruse it's really worth a look
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06-21-2020, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
It is the same. Ten thousand people in a confined space for 4 hours in one session versus a million people over two weeks in multiple sessions in many locations with some distancing and some mask wearing.
One side gets hammered by the press and medical profs and the other side gets hugs.
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On one side you have people protesting for change the country thinks necessary, the other an event organized to stroke a fragile man's ego.
Not quite the same.
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06-21-2020, 05:57 PM
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Which is a better cause for stupidity?
Apples and oranges Jeff
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06-22-2020, 10:12 AM
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Protests and campaigns are in no way equivalent, just look at funding to start.
BLM budget maybe 6 million
Relect Tweety budget 996 million
And denying that Coronavirus is a problem is central to Tweety's campaign.
It's necessary for both his economic plan to just open things up and to conduct rallies in the very places most affected by Corona.
If some of the core does not accept his virus-denialism, that is BIG trouble. It means they doubt his reopening plans. It means they doubt his promise of a fast economic bounce back.
They doubt all his claims to have done a "great job" in the greatest crisis of his presidency.
Biden is an acceptable alternative wherein older, more conservative voters have both a place to go - and a reason to move.
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06-22-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Protests and campaigns are in no way equivalent, just look at funding to start.
BLM budget maybe 6 million
Relect Tweety budget 996 million
They are equivalent in Spence's terms of organicity.
And denying that Coronavirus is a problem is central to Tweety's campaign.
Trump doesn't categorically deny that Coronavirus is a problem. It is a matter of degree not of fact.
It's necessary for both his economic plan to just open things up and to conduct rallies in the very places most affected by Corona.
If some of the core does not accept his virus-denialism, that is BIG trouble. It means they doubt his reopening plans. It means they doubt his promise of a fast economic bounce back.
They doubt all his claims to have done a "great job" in the greatest crisis of his presidency.
Well, you and most of the mainline media have done your best to cast that doubt. If the polls are accurate, y'all may have succeeded.
Biden is an acceptable alternative wherein older, more conservative voters have both a place to go - and a reason to move.
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Alternative between what? Constitutionalism and Progressivism? If you're a Progressive, Biden is your alternative. If you're a Constitutionalist, voting Democrat would be stupid.
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06-22-2020, 12:27 PM
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America disagrees
This is what a campaign in free-fall looks like.
Tweety's job approval has never been higher than 47 percent and is currently in the low 40s.
He has trailed Joe Biden in all but four of the polls taken this cycle. Go look.
He is being out fundraised by Biden.
Unemployment is above 13 percent.
120,000 Americans have died of the coronavirus.
The right-track/wrong-track number now stands at -41.
And there are those empty seats.
He only has 18 weeks until the election.
There will firings from Tweety's campaign.
There will be more coronavirus deaths.
There will be debates against Biden which will not go well for Tweety. (Biden is an effective debater who has lots of recent practice. Tweety hasn't won a debate since the early 2016 primaries.) And only a desperate incumbent with a horrible record to run on would ask for more debates.
Tweety is the most unpopular president to run for reelection in our lifetimes.
He began his reelection effort already in the hole by 3 million votes.
The environment is objectively terrible for incumbents.
And Tweety trails the challenger by a larger and more consistent margin than any president in the history of modern polling.
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06-22-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
America disagrees
This is what a campaign in free-fall looks like.
Tweety's job approval has never been higher than 47 percent and is currently in the low 40s.
He has trailed Joe Biden in all but four of the polls taken this cycle. Go look.
He is being out fundraised by Biden.
Unemployment is above 13 percent.
120,000 Americans have died of the coronavirus.
The right-track/wrong-track number now stands at -41.
And there are those empty seats.
He only has 18 weeks until the election.
There will firings from Tweety's campaign.
There will be more coronavirus deaths.
There will be debates against Biden which will not go well for Tweety. (Biden is an effective debater who has lots of recent practice. Tweety hasn't won a debate since the early 2016 primaries.) And only a desperate incumbent with a horrible record to run on would ask for more debates.
Tweety is the most unpopular president to run for reelection in our lifetimes.
He began his reelection effort already in the hole by 3 million votes.
The environment is objectively terrible for incumbents.
And Tweety trails the challenger by a larger and more consistent margin than any president in the history of modern polling.
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Sounds like it's all over but the shoutin'. Actually, there is a lot of shoutin' goin' on.
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06-22-2020, 02:07 PM
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Sounds like it's all over but the shoutin'. Actually, there is a lot of shoutin' goin' on.
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Tweety and his gang are screaming at and about Parscale, aren’t they?
It’s pretty hard for a demon to demonize his opponent, but Tweety’s gonna try
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06-22-2020, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Tweety and his gang are screaming at and about Parscale, aren’t they?
It’s pretty hard for a demon to demonize his opponent, but Tweety’s gonna try
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Gonna have to start calling you Sylvester. You keep trying to take Tweety down.
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06-22-2020, 02:05 PM
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It all seems to be lining right up for the snowflakes to roll to the presidency again.
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