DMF

[Guppy]

The filling of Com quota’s for several species are way down (again)
Soooo, why put those fish under more pressure ? If stocks are down, lay off!

https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/2998c05

[Got Stripers]

That would be smart reasonable and long term management, what are you nuts?

[ivanputski]

Just emailed... absolutely ridiculous.

[piemma]

Yup, in the final analysis they are going to open the comm season for 7 days. They won't catch anymore in 7 days than they do in 2 days because there is nothing to catch. DMF are the Stupidest bastards on the planet.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by piemma

Yup, in the final analysis they are going to open the comm season for 7 days. They won't catch anymore in 7 days than they do in 2 days because there is nothing to catch. DMF are the Stupidest bastards on the planet.

Then we'll just need to go to 8 days, or 9.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Then we'll just need to go to 8 days, or 9.

Amazing logic. Can't fill the quota... add more day.

[tlapinski]

How can DMF on the one hand look to open more commercial days to fill the quota while at the same time initiate a release mortality study on circle hooks to better estimate actual harvest numbers with conservation in mind? Here are the details on the study: http://www.thefisherman.com/index.cf...2&ParentCat=19

Maybe I missed it, (and before you read on make it known that I do not feel in any way, shape or form that the SB population is fine and I have never been involved in commercial fishing legally or otherwise) but I rarely see anyone bring up the point that while the commercial harvest isn't being met, year to year it seems like commercial anglers are given less and less legal time on the water between reduced days, reduced bag limits for shore-based anglers, reduced shoreline from which they can legally fish (canal) and so on. I mean, shouldn't perhaps the quota be adjusted for available days on the water? Meaning if there are now only 2/7'ths the legal fishing days as compared to the date range used to generate the quota, then shouldn't the quota be cut by the same value? (I know this isn't reality but it's the kind of thing that pops into my head as I enter the 4th hour of another skunking in the surf.)

[Guppy]

Did they not stop com fishin in the ditch because of poaching?

[BigFish]

Should not be a pound quota...make it a certain time frame for commercial then whether its met or not shut it down! How difficult is that?

[Guppy]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Should not be a pound quota...make it a certain time frame for commercial then whether its met or not shut it down! How difficult is that?

Ummmm,,, probably wouldn’t happen but that scenario could exceed the rocket scientist’s estimated # to maintain the resource ...

[RickBomba]

Originally Posted by Guppy

Ummmm,,, probably wouldn’t happen but that scenario could exceed the rocket scientist’s estimated # to maintain the resource ...

Ray used to teach people how to use Autocad.

He’s pretty much a rocket scientist.
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[beamie]

Just recently got my boat in the water, have not sold a fish this year yet. I may or may not. Busy running charters on a friends boat.

But, just because you have a numbered quota does not mean you have to fill it. Leave it 2 days a week, if it gets filled, fine, if not fine. Just reference the last 2 years.....

I am not sure what the current boat price is but I know 3-4 weeks ago it was only $1 a pound. I am guessing allot of people don't fish when it is not worth the effort. And the whole covid19 thing has messed with the demand and price of many species.

Why go to 4 days and then 7 to get more fish on the market when the demand and price is low mainly because of the current state of restaurant volume.....seems it would be a waste of fish. Again, not just a bass issue, the tuna market is going thru the same issue this year.

I never understood why you let the comm harvest the breeders and let everyone else only catch a slot. Why not have everyone, recs and comms fish the same slot and leave the breeders alone. I think every one cooking and eating bass would rather a filet from a 30" fish that a 50" fish.

Many people say take the price off the fishes head....as in no comm harvest. But that is only the tip of it. That price includes tackle shops, plug builders, charter boats, sandwich shops and hotels for people who travel here to fish....the list goes on. So I guess the only answer is no fishing period for anyone. But really, it would never happen, what fun would that be....the golf course would be too crowded.

Life is very short, go fishing (responsibly), have fun and laugh once a while.

[Got Stripers]

Game fish and smart slot limits, time to get smart.

[BigFish]

Well you all know what DMF stands for!

[Higgie]

Hate to say it but this year the golf course is overcrowded and go to any box store not a fishing rod or tackle left on the shelves. Thankful for a the few local tackle shops that I prefer to stimulate anyways. Golf courses look like the canal on a moon tide.
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[piemma]

Originally Posted by Higgie

Hate to say it but this year the golf course is overcrowded and go to any box store not a fishing rod or tackle left on the shelves. Thankful for a the few local tackle shops that I prefer to stimulate anyways. Golf courses look like the canal on a moon tide.
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The secret is to golf early in thee day. Jeanne and I have been playing at 6:54 AM at our club. Almost no one on the curse.

[piemma]

Oh, and by the way, I have been surf fishing. My old haunts (Oakley, remember). I have been doing nothing. Riggies, plugs and soft plastic.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by piemma

The secret is to golf early in thee day. Jeanne and I have been playing at 6:54 AM at our club. Almost no one on the curse.

If your not out early it’s a double whammy, your dealing with slow play and hot and humid. Yesterday wasn’t to bad down cape with overcast until the 16th hole, otherwise even an early time wouldn’t have saved you from the heat.

[Clammer]

I made a fu k in in post & either I lost it or it didn,t post .. this old stuff is worse than old

[afterhours]

Can't make this stuff up, freekin' idiots!

[JohnR]

Wonder how much fisheries stuff gets lost due to COVID

(Clammer - you only get censored for posting porn - usually ; 0 )

[Clammer]

damn ………..forgetting almost everything …………. oh well back to dead #^&#^&#^&#^& ….>>pussy hunting >.

[thefishingfreak]

Serious question: Why does everyone point the finger at the commercial sector? The ten percenters?

When the actual numbers of counted dead fish from Mrip reports are Ninety Percent higher.
90/10 recreational dead fish verses commercial dead fish.

What if the numbers were 60/40, you would still point the finger at the commercial fisherman?

What if they were 50/50? Would you accept 50% of the blame then?

A million pounds sounds like a lot, but what about the other NINE MILLION pounds of dead fish from recreational anglers?

[tlapinski]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Serious question: Why does everyone point the finger at the commercial sector? The ten percenters?

When the actual numbers of counted dead fish from Mrip reports are Ninety Percent higher.
90/10 recreational dead fish verses commercial dead fish.

What if the numbers were 60/40, you would still point the finger at the commercial fisherman?

What if they were 50/50? Would you accept 50% of the blame then?

A million pounds sounds like a lot, but what about the other NINE MILLION pounds of dead fish from recreational anglers?

Not everyone! I for one have been saying for years that it's not the legal commercial guys by any extent of the imagination and have written on this very subject repeatedly. I add the word 'legal' commercial as once you cross the line then you are no longer a commercial, you're a poacher. Same hold true for recreational.

It's the easy answer to point a finger and say it's the other guy, he needs to change while I keep on doing my thing; it's human nature, really.

[Guppy]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Serious question: Why does everyone point the finger at the commercial sector? The ten percenters?

When the actual numbers of counted dead fish from Mrip reports are Ninety Percent higher.
90/10 recreational dead fish verses commercial dead fish.

What if the numbers were 60/40, you would still point the finger at the commercial fisherman?

What if they were 50/50? Would you accept 50% of the blame then?

A million pounds sounds like a lot, but what about the other NINE MILLION pounds of dead fish from recreational anglers?

10 4 on that...

But I still don’t like the idea of adding additional days to catch what ain’t there to begin with....

Albies is another story!! LOL

[Got Stripers]

Point at everyone at this point, we all are responsible, I don’t target them and have yet to catch but a few schoolies while targeting sea bass. Regardless of the reasoning behind FL success it’s a pattern we could follow, game fish and smart slot limits.
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