Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Today's Posts Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Striper Chat - Discuss stuff other than fishing ~ The Scuppers and Political talk » Political Threads

Political Threads This section is for Political Threads - Enter at your own risk. If you say you don't want to see what someone posts - don't read it :hihi:

 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-07-2020, 07:57 PM   #1
wdmso
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,138
Look who doing well

Billionaires see fortunes rise by 27% during the pandemic
wdmso is offline  
Old 10-08-2020, 02:28 PM   #2
Nebe
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Nebe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,561
It will trickle down. Don’t worry.
Amazon prime day is coming.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Nebe is offline  
Old 10-08-2020, 03:27 PM   #3
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Billionaires see fortunes rise by 27% during the pandemic
what would you do? pass a law saying people
can no longer earn money when their net worth hits a certain level?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-08-2020, 04:43 PM   #4
wdmso
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
what would you do? pass a law saying people
can no longer earn money when their net worth hits a certain level?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Big picture Jim big picture. I bet our personal income tax % is higher than theirs
wdmso is offline  
Old 10-08-2020, 05:06 PM   #5
scottw
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
scottw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
I know this is complicated but most of their wealth is a result of the value of their business...they are doing well because their businesses are doing a lot of business.....maybe we should restrict their ability to do business so they can't do so well?
scottw is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 09:49 AM   #6
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw View Post
I know this is complicated but most of their wealth is a result of the value of their business...they are doing well because their businesses are doing a lot of business.....maybe we should restrict their ability to do business so they can't do so well?
that’s the question they should
answer.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 01:51 PM   #7
Got Stripers
Ledge Runner Baits
iTrader: (0)
 
Got Stripers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,400
The U.S. population has more than doubled since the 1960s, when most of the country’s major infrastructure systems were designed. Many are reaching the end of their lifespan, and are dangerously overstretched, experts say.

What do you think the tax rate was on the upper crust when all these aging roads, bridges, railways and utilities were built? Just where do you think than next major slug of money should come from, just what segment of the American tax paying public do you think probably can easily survive a tax bump to finance long overdue infrastructure repairs?
Got Stripers is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 09:49 AM   #8
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Big picture Jim big picture. I bet our personal income tax % is higher than theirs
maybe. but obama has a democrat congress to change that if he wanted to, and he didn’t.

their rate is only lower than mine and yours, if their income
comes from capital
gains and not ordinary income. i don’t have a problem
with capital gains tax rates being low enough to encourage people
to invest. maybe you make it more progressive above certain amounts.

for all the liberal whining on this, obama and the democrat congress never tried to fix it. there’s a reason why.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-08-2020, 07:52 PM   #9
Pete F.
Canceled
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,069
Unfettered capitalism is Amazon inflating its prices on essential items by as much as 1000% during the pandemic while Jeff Bezos refuses to provide sick leave to his warehouse workers.
But they’re making money and who would claim that profiting off a pandemic is bad, hmmm....
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Pete F. is offline  
Old 10-08-2020, 08:44 PM   #10
detbuch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Unfettered capitalism is Amazon inflating its prices on essential items by as much as 1000% during the pandemic while Jeff Bezos refuses to provide sick leave to his warehouse workers.
But they’re making money and who would claim that profiting off a pandemic is bad, hmmm....
Capitalism, free market, individual liberty, unalienable rights, and more, were all pretty much fettered during the lockdowns. Some crony capitalists did well, a whole lot of smaller businesses were destroyed.
detbuch is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 02:36 AM   #11
scottw
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
scottw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
yes, we don't fetter capitalism at all in America
scottw is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 06:06 AM   #12
Got Stripers
Ledge Runner Baits
iTrader: (0)
 
Got Stripers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,400
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw View Post
yes, we don't fetter capitalism at all in America
Sadly it became necessary due to this administration letting this virus get out of control and with death tolls on the way to 300,000 or fearless leader continues the messaging that exacerbated the problem from the beginning, even when he knew the facts up front. But wait I’m confused a DeBarr stated the economy was making a robust recovery, is that only for the few and the small get screwed. Conflicting messaging how can this be?
Got Stripers is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 07:28 AM   #13
scottw
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
scottw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers View Post
Sadly it became necessary due to this administration letting this virus get out of control and with death tolls on the way to 300,000 or fearless leader continues the messaging that exacerbated the problem from the beginning, even when he knew the facts up front. But wait I’m confused a DeBarr stated the economy was making a robust recovery, is that only for the few and the small get screwed. Conflicting messaging how can this be?
do you just pull on a string and repeat the same thing over and over?
scottw is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 02:31 PM   #14
wdmso
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,138
funny republican gave billions in tax cuts to the rich

but now are saying the covid relief bill it do big and now are concerned about the Budget .. rather than helping the Avg american
wdmso is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 03:45 PM   #15
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
funny republican gave billions in tax cuts to the rich

an
more lies.

he also doubled the standard deduction, and increased child tax credits. neither of these provides any benefit whatsoever, to the rich.

when you are forced to
lie to defend what you believe, it might be time
to question why you believe what you believe.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 04:16 PM   #16
spence
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
more lies.

he also doubled the standard deduction, and increased child tax credits. neither of these provides any benefit whatsoever, to the rich.

when you are forced to
lie to defend what you believe, it might be time
to question why you believe what you believe.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Would you like some cream on top of your cherry picking?
spence is online now  
Old 10-09-2020, 06:03 PM   #17
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence View Post
Would you like some cream on top of your cherry picking?
(1) did he double
the standard deduction?

(2) did he expand child
tax credits?

(3) do either of those things help the elite wealthy?

answers. yes, yes, no.

you want to argue that more could have gone to working people, you get no argument from
me. you claim, as harris just did in the debate, that the cuts only helped the wealthy, and youre lying.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 04:59 PM   #18
wdmso
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
more lies.

he also doubled the standard deduction, and increased child tax credits. neither of these provides any benefit whatsoever, to the rich.

when you are forced to
lie to defend what you believe, it might be time
to question why you believe what you believe.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim your like a dog under the table while every everyone around the table is eating the finest meats your excited when those at the table provide you with piece of Gristle.. convincing yourself they gave that out of concern for your well-being and improving you existence... saying see even us dogs got some. Stop lying for them thats what they want
wdmso is offline  
Old 10-09-2020, 05:59 PM   #19
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
Jim your like a dog under the table while every everyone around the table is eating the finest meats your excited when those at the table provide you with piece of Gristle.. convincing yourself they gave that out of concern for your well-being and improving you existence... saying see even us dogs got some. Stop lying for them thats what they want
fact - part of the trump tax cuts doubled the standard deduction, and greatly increased child
tax credits. my
liability went down by about 2500 a year. that’s not gristle to us.

all you have is made up bullsh*t. you’re wrong. you’re demonstrably wrong about the tax cuts. working families with a couple of
kids hit a big break. that’s just fact.

it would be easier for you if the trump only helped the wealthy. that’s just not what happened.

again, when you have to deny reality to defend your beliefs, you’re in a cult.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 06:36 AM   #20
Pete F.
Canceled
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,069
And it cost us trillions
In an expanding economy
Now his schizophrenic approach to the virus has our economy in a flat spin, the grounds coming up and he’s flailing
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Pete F. is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 06:43 AM   #21
scottw
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
scottw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
And it cost us trillions
In an expanding economy
Now his schizophrenic approach to the virus has our economy in a flat spin, the grounds coming up and he’s flailing
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
economy is doing pretty good considering....
scottw is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 07:52 PM   #22
Pete F.
Canceled
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,069
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw View Post
economy is doing pretty good considering....
We have normalized absolute insanity.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!

Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?

Lets Go Darwin
Pete F. is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 08:31 PM   #23
detbuch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
We have normalized absolute insanity.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
You must be normal after all.
detbuch is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 10:16 AM   #24
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
And it cost us trillions
In an expanding economy
Now his schizophrenic approach to the virus has our economy in a flat spin, the grounds coming up and he’s flailing
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
and that’s fair. but not fair to say it only helped the wealthy.

conservative=bad, liberal=good, no exceptions, not ever. right?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 09:38 AM   #25
Pete F.
Canceled
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,069
More trillions fluffing the markets
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Pete F. is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 10:18 AM   #26
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
More trillions fluffing the markets
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
also fluffing employment, pre covid?

are you afraid that if you say one complimentary thing about trump, that everyone will hear about it and vote for him? are you afraid you’ll die?

i don’t get the need you all have to deny reality that doesn’t fit the orangemanbad message.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 11:06 AM   #27
Got Stripers
Ledge Runner Baits
iTrader: (0)
 
Got Stripers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,400
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
also fluffing employment, pre covid?

are you afraid that if you say one complimentary thing about trump, that everyone will hear about it and vote for him? are you afraid you’ll die?

i don’t get the need you all have to deny reality that doesn’t fit the orangemanbad message.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
I can compliment him on his Halloween skin tone it’s perfect for this month and he is one scary SOB.
Got Stripers is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 11:22 AM   #28
detbuch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers View Post
I can compliment him on his Halloween skin tone it’s perfect for this month and he is one scary SOB.
And you once accused me of being one sarcastic SOB. Pot Kettle.
detbuch is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 12:04 PM   #29
Got Stripers
Ledge Runner Baits
iTrader: (0)
 
Got Stripers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,400
Just calling a pumpkin a pumpkin it is the season.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Got Stripers is offline  
Old 10-10-2020, 07:25 PM   #30
detbuch
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 7,688
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers View Post
Just calling a pumpkin a pumpkin it is the season.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
More sarcasm from one who calls others sarcastic.
detbuch is offline  
 

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com