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10-21-2021, 08:15 PM
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Data shows that Democrats are the authoritarians
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10-21-2021, 09:03 PM
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Let me guess
the new right wing seer from South America
Glen Greenwald
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10-21-2021, 10:27 PM
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Let me guess
the new right wing seer from South America
Glen Greenwald
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Why would you have to guess? I know you avoid watching a video because you're not able to discuss or rebut what you think it is about--but his picture is staring you in the face, and you need to guess?
As I've said, you're a fraud.
And Greenwald is not right wing. The video does not support the right wing. But he is an equal opportunity opponent of authoritarianism. He briefly admits in the video that it's the Democrat party that's changed, not him. It left him, not the other way around. As far as guessing goes, I would guess he wants the Democrats to get back to being antagonistic to the anti-democratic threat of corporatism wedded to fascistic speech censoring liberty suppressing authoritarian government power muscled by the FBI and CIA and an autocratic regulatory apparatus.
He is far more in favor of the pre-Biden era Bernie Sanders than anything resembling the Republican Party. He is calling out the Democrats in order to get them back to being civil libertarians instead of the authoritarians they have become.
And in this video he is citing data compiled by the usual statisticians that even the left wing relies on. He didn't conjecture, guess, or fabricate the stats. They are what they are. And the Democrats are authoritarians.
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10-22-2021, 03:33 AM
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pete's rhetoric and that of his fellow travelers here is proof that greenwald is right....
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10-22-2021, 06:27 AM
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Glenn Greenwald is the patron saint of people who think they're libertarians but are really fascists.
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10-22-2021, 07:06 AM
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Glenn Greenwald is the patron saint of people who think they're libertarians but are really fascists.
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actually, if examine what the democraps, tech, some industry and media are trying to do currently...you will recognize fascism...better fall in line or else.....
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10-22-2021, 08:46 AM
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You tube where conservatives go to find their own experts …. I love this one because Dems trust the FBI and Republicans do not .. thats a data point greenwald uses to supports who’s authoritarian And yet 75% of Republicans think Trump won the election whats that called ? Oh wait I know Patriotism
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10-22-2021, 08:56 AM
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Oh wait he also makes the same comparison with trust in the media if you hate the media your not a authoritarian but if you support the media you are ? Wow this guy loves feeding a mindless base , who are full of sheep ! And he plays you by re enforcement of the lies you already believe are actually True .. to make money
Attack the deep state and get paid
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10-22-2021, 09:20 AM
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Oh wait he also makes the same comparison with trust in the media if you hate the media your not a authoritarian but if you support the media you are ? Wow this guy loves feeding a mindless base , who are full of sheep ! And he plays you by re enforcement of the lies you already believe are actually True .. to make money
Attack the deep state and get paid
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i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.
conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.
liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.
That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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10-22-2021, 10:12 AM
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i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.
conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.
Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.
liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.
That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy. Having lost much of its ability to attack democracy openly, conservatism has tried in recent years to redefine the word "democracy" while engaging in deception to make the substance of democracy unthinkable.
Almost all of the early immigrants to America left behind societies that had been oppressed by conservatism. The democratic culture that Americans have built is truly one of the monuments of civilization. And American culture remains vibrant to this day despite centuries of conservative attack.
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10-22-2021, 10:32 AM
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For thousands of years, conservatism
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WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"
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10-22-2021, 10:37 AM
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WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"
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Just as classy as Trumplican congressman
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10-22-2021, 11:25 AM
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WTF?..."let's go Brandon!"
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That was way, way out there, even for him.
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10-22-2021, 11:24 AM
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For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy. Having lost much of its ability to attack democracy openly, conservatism has tried in recent years to redefine the word "democracy" while engaging in deception to make the substance of democracy unthinkable.
Almost all of the early immigrants to America left behind societies that had been oppressed by conservatism. The democratic culture that Americans have built is truly one of the monuments of civilization. And American culture remains vibrant to this day despite centuries of conservative attack.
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"Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy."
Oh. Conservatives want domination by an aristocracy? Is that why conservatives want citizens to enjoy lower taxes and easier access to guns? Because when regular people have guns and more of their own money, that makes it easier for aristocrats to dominate them, right?
I mean, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!
"Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general"
Which must explain why everyone is moving out of FL and TX, and re-locating to CA and NY, right?
Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!
"Conservatism is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice"
And that explains why conservatives fought to maintain slavery, right? And also explains why conservatives later fought to hold onto Jim Crow segregation? And it was the democrats who fought to end slavery and segregation! Aha!
Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!
I mean, that's just unassailable, fact-based, dripping-with-common-sense stuff there. Wow. We are very impressed.
It's liberals who want limited central government, and conservatives who want an all-powerful dictatorship. Obviously!
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10-22-2021, 12:12 PM
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"Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy."
Oh. Conservatives want domination by an aristocracy? Is that why conservatives want citizens to enjoy lower taxes and easier access to guns? Because when regular people have guns and more of their own money, that makes it easier for aristocrats to dominate them, right?
How far do you think Yall Queda would get against drones?
https://www.military.com/video/opera.../4646339250001
I mean, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!
"Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general"
Which must explain why everyone is moving out of FL and TX, and re-locating to CA and NY, right?
Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!
"Conservatism is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice"
And that explains why conservatives fought to maintain slavery, right? And also explains why conservatives later fought to hold onto Jim Crow segregation? And it was the democrats who fought to end slavery and segregation! Aha!
You missed that week in history, though a catholic school education probably didn't tell you about the change in the Republican party.
The Republican Party in the South consciously chose to exclude blacks early in the 20th century, which helped it to dominate Southern politics decades later.
Southern black voters used to support Republicans
Right after the Civil War, black voters were the Republican Party’s main supporters in the South. When formerly enslaved blacks became eligible to vote and run for office, they voted for the party of Lincoln, and GOP state organizations in the South were biracial. Both blacks and whites held leadership positions in the party.
Beginning in the early 1870s, Southern Democrats — in cooperation with terrorist groups like the Ku Klux Klan — began to restrict black suffrage. They did so first through direct violence and intimidation and, later, by passing legislation to effectively disenfranchise black citizens. As a result, the GOP lost its core constituency.
Again, that makes all kinds of sense. That's not even a little bit crazy!
I mean, that's just unassailable, fact-based, dripping-with-common-sense stuff there. Wow. We are very impressed.
It's liberals who want limited central government, and conservatives who want an all-powerful dictatorship. Obviously!
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Knowledge is best produced in a liberal culture. This is why the most prosperous and innovative regions of the United States are also the most politically liberal, and why the most conservative regions of the country are also the greatest beneficiaries of transfer payments. Liberals create wealth and government redistributes it to conservatives. This is, of course, the opposite of the received conservative opinion in the media, and indeed in most of academia. But it is true.
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10-22-2021, 11:44 AM
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i don’t think ones feelings towards the media have anything to do with whether or not ones an authoritarian.
conservatives want less intrusion from government, more individual freedoms.
liberals want more rules set by the government and less ability for individuals to decide things for themselves.
That’s the way it is, those are accurate descriptions.
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Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms.. just look at the law they pass .. or try to pass freedom is just a catch phrase,, and I hate to say it’s Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11 and Dems went along
And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms.. that’s conservative brainwashing and seems it’s working
Liberal
willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
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relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Conservative
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averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.
Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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10-22-2021, 12:02 PM
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Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms..
Liberal
willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
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relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Conservative
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averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.
Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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really?
oh good, more cut and paste from the dictionary
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10-22-2021, 12:06 PM
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Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with ! they don’t care about other Americans freedoms.. just look at the law they pass .. or try to pass freedom is just a catch phrase,, and I hate to say it’s Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11 and Dems went along
And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms.. that’s conservative brainwashing and seems it’s working
Liberal
willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
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relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Conservative
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averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.
(in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.
Even Webster won’t say conservatives care about individual rights
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"Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with !"
Oh, so it's the democrats who support freedoms they don't agree with. Like the freedom to ask questions at a BOE meeting.
"Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11"
Wanting increased safety, isn't contrary to conservatism. It's one of the things they want government to do.
"And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"
Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic if BLM riots are allowed to take place, freedom to not have my tax dollars go to teachers unions, and from there to Planned Parenthood and to democrats.
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10-22-2021, 01:24 PM
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That's the price of living in a civil society
As a Texas politician said: "This prohibition against vaccine mandates is like as if the governor were telling me that I can’t issue an order to evacuate the coastal areas when a hurricane is barreling toward us."
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10-22-2021, 03:06 PM
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"Jim conservatives only support the freedoms they agree with !"
Oh, so it's the democrats who support freedoms they don't agree with. Like the freedom to ask questions at a BOE meeting.
"Republicans who have expanded government after 9/11"
Wanting increased safety, isn't contrary to conservatism. It's one of the things they want government to do.
"And it’s. Lie to suggest liberals want less freedoms"
Like freedom to not wear a mask, freedom to go to church during a pandemic if BLM riots are allowed to take place, freedom to not have my tax dollars go to teachers unions, and from there to Planned Parenthood and to democrats.
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Jim you and the right use the word freedom as a catch phrase there no meaning behind it just look at your BS examples suggesting no liberals go to church or want to be rid of masks or control where their tax money goes !
And you throw BLM in for good measure.. it’s all smoke and mirrors with the trump Republicans
As I said look at their legislation? Or lack of legislation
Ban this ban that the only thing Republicans seem expand are laws for gun owners , or tax breaks for the rich which are not paid for then claim to be fiscally responsible and freedom 1st
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10-22-2021, 10:33 AM
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Attack the deep state and get paid
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so you are saying there is a deep state....
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10-22-2021, 05:35 PM
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You guys do realize he just posts stuff like this to make money off of right wing sites right?
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10-22-2021, 05:55 PM
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You guys do realize he just posts stuff like this to make money off of right wing sites right?
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Spence the truth is not allowed when talking about right wing YouTube stars
It’s all about small government and Freedom …. Never about the money
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10-22-2021, 05:50 PM
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Seven students are suing a Texas school district over its dress-code policy banning boys from having long hair.
School officials suspended a 9-year-old boy for a month, barred him from recess and normal lunch breaks as punishment for long hair, the lawsuit claims.
FREEDOM!!!!!
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10-25-2021, 08:02 AM
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Seven students are suing a Texas school district over its dress-code policy banning boys from having long hair.
School officials suspended a 9-year-old boy for a month, barred him from recess and normal lunch breaks as punishment for long hair, the lawsuit claims.
FREEDOM!!!!!
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did anyone ever say that republicans want no laws/rules? You're responding to something that no one ever said.
I've never actually heard anyone deny that conservatives want fewer impositions on individual liberty (overall...not on every single individual issue) than liberals. You're making history here Wayne, you're denying that conservatives want smaller (but not zero) government intrusion into our lives.
In the last few days, you have refused to accept the NSBAs admission that they lied in their letter to Biden. In the same sentence, you have accused conservatives of both doing nothing, and of banning everything. Now you're saying (I think? It's hard to follow) conservatives want the government to control every aspect of what we wear, and how we wear our hair? One school district in TX, speaks for all of the conservatives in the country?
You think it's fair to take one extreme example, and apply that to all conservatives? Does the Loudon County school boars speak for you? When they explicitly lied to cover up a rape in school (We now know for a fact that's exactly what happened), does that say anything about all democrats? Can I use your logic, and say that therefore you are in favor of protecting rapists?
Wayne, how about we hold people accountable for what they say and do, not blame people for what others say and do?
If you refuse to take off the tin foil hat, at least loosen the straps a little.
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10-25-2021, 08:14 AM
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good grief...
According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.
The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".
I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....
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10-25-2021, 08:23 AM
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good grief...
According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.
The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".
I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....
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At a BOE meeting, the superintendent of Loudon county schools said he had no record of any assault in his schools. Then an email surfaced that he sent a week before that meeting, where he alerted some school employees to the rape. So we now know for an absolute certainty that he lied to the father of the victim at a public meeting. And he's still the superintendent. Still collecting a huge salary, funded by taxpayers like the victims father. You cannot make that up. He covered up a rape.
This is precisely how Trump got elected. The left is too stupid to see it, unless their plan is actually to get the right so angry that they nominate Trump again. In which case it's brilliant.
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10-25-2021, 10:07 AM
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At a BOE meeting, the superintendent of Loudon county schools said he had no record of any assault in his schools. Then an email surfaced that he sent a week before that meeting, where he alerted some school employees to the rape. So we now know for an absolute certainty that he lied to the father of the victim at a public meeting. And he's still the superintendent. Still collecting a huge salary, funded by taxpayers like the victims father. You cannot make that up. He covered up a rape.
This is precisely how Trump got elected. The left is too stupid to see it, unless their plan is actually to get the right so angry that they nominate Trump again. In which case it's brilliant.
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Jim they were minors there are laws
But you only want them followed when you agree with them .
I got it. Ps Trump wasn’t re elected was he ..
Trumps a seditious traitor but keep supporting him
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10-25-2021, 10:05 AM
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good grief...
According to its dress code policy, boys cannot wear their hair over their eyes, past the bottom of their ears, or past the bottom of a dress shirt collar.
The suit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas (ACLU) on Thursday on behalf of the students, argues the school district "imposed immense and irreparable harm... solely because of these students' gender".
I wonder if the ACLU is suing the Loudoun school district for allowing a gender confused boy to rape a couple of girls in their girl's bathrooms and then cover it up because that seems to me to be more "immense and irreparable" harm than a haircut....
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The Loudoun County sheriff’s office has confirmed the facts of this story too, but the suspect’s name is not yet public because he is a juvenile.
So not seeing the cover up
Don’t forget the Afghan rapist start yelling send them back
Anything for outrage ….suggesting it’s rampant Keep it up
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10-22-2021, 06:38 PM
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Biden brings down Trump’s record-setting deficit by $360 billion in one year.
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