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		 Nice, nothing like a little detail to give a home style. 
 
I always liked those but as I get older my neck and body does not like working above my head for that long. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-22-2018, 04:27 AM
			
			
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		 Good staging makes it much easier. Had to install crown moulding in every room of this 5,000 sq. ft. house......not done on step ladders. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			03-22-2018, 06:51 AM
			
			
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		That's a ton of work...   
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		 Wow. Really nice! 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Thanks guys.....the company I work for keeps me very busy. 
I've been remodeling some commercial property they own for a client who is expanding. When we don't have new houses ready to be finished....they always have work for me at "the mill". 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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		 .......second picture you can see the motorized cable for lowering the chandelier. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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		 This is our current model home. Staged with some furniture to make it look nice. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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		 Kudos Bob. 
 
Is your stock clear, primed, or painted when you are doing install? It looks good to go yet I see your staging and tools in the pics? When I am done with my work, it isn't quite like that.... I do "some" caulking and filling, certainly more than most finish carpenters, but still would need the painters to make my work shine like your pics show up your work. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-30-2018, 08:09 AM
			
			
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		 Thanks Ross....stock we use comes primed....fingerjointed pine...(i like poplar better for interior painted woodwork)....we have to sand the surface at the joints to get them perfectly flush. Last pic  was after painting 
Painters would rather we let them do the caulking. 
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		 Houses are selling fast...got to pick up the pace to keep up. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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		 Things never change....sales department giving customers unrealistic completion dates. I start finish work and am told the house was supposed to be done already. 
Not good to rush the finish work, but office people insist on "telling customers what they want to hear" when they sign up.  
Another thing that irks me is customers that walk thru and point out things that they assume I am finished with that I am not.... thinking they need to "remind" me. This happens a lot. 
 I was installing cabinets, a man came in said he was the grandfather of the customer, asked if he could look around and report progress to grandson. I said "sure but keep in mind that I'm not finished with anything yet" he said he understood. Few minutes later he comes back and tells me that although the bathroom cabinets are screwed together they don't appear to be fastened to the  wall studs. I said "you are absolutely correct sir.... and what did I tell you five minutes ago"? DUH! 
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		 That second picture...with adjustable shelving....is that melamine material or is that wood? 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 It's melamine. 
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		 Done.....got in to take pics just before the moving trucks arrived 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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		 Young couple ...... mid twenties....both driving new Lexus.... 
I'd be jealous but I can say everything I have is through my own hard work since I didn't benefit from a trust fund...."Must be nice" 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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		 Lastly the exterior. And I'm onto the next job...more cabinets. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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I've only worked with "finished" edges with any melamine projects I've done....but when you're required to cut it, how good or easy is it when applying the edge tape? I think you're supposed to iron it on or something....have you (or anyone reading this) ever tried that?
 
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		 I've edgebanded melamine many times .....miles of it.....and real wood veneer onto finish grade plywood using an  old clothes iron....takes a little getting used to how much time and pressure to apply...edgebanding comes with hot melt glue already applied on the back and is slightly wider than the thickness of the material it is being applied to. It cools and sticks right away...then you trim excess with a flat file. Also they make a saw blade for melamine that produces chip free cuts...wich is important 
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Gilly, it just so happens that my next step on this kitchen I am building is to edge band all the casework parts. Maybe I should setup my iphone to video it for you. 
There are a couple methods of edge banding. The hot iron or heat gun method and then there is the automatic edge bander machines for production work, those use a pvc tape and have a separate glue pot to supply the glue that gets put on in process, there are cutters to trim also. 
 
I have a tabletop iron machine that holds the roll of tape and has an adjustable thermostat because the wood tape needs more temp. than the vinyl tape does, it has cooling aluminum rollers. It is a bit faster than a handheld iron but both ways work. 95% of my edge banding is with real wood veneer tape. 
 
The melamine with edge tape is ok but it can delaminate if you catch an edge. The PVC tape looks cleaner and hold up better. But for most stuff like closets, they don't get overly abused. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Slip is right.... there are edgebanding machines and they come in all sizes...i worked in large commercial millwork shop and it could handle a continuous flow of door slabs to be edged...self feeding....routers that trimmed both edges...... adjusting the  cutters........checking glue temperatures... conveyer belt...but for my shop and many small to medium projects the iron on has got the job done. Its low teck but i have it down pat...easy job really. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Mail room dividers that I built, had 72, 3/4 plywood shelves, edgebanded with the iron-on tape..... was just a few hours work. 
Customer wanted to put labels on front edge of each shelf so 3/4 thick. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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 Wow.  I am going to build something very close to this to organize all of my glass color at my studio.   Thanks for the inspiration.
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		Thanks guys. 
Googan question....
 
Why are you using plywood and not MDF or even poplar or pine? 
Is it cost driven?
 
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