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				Trump Calls For Military Forces On U.S.-Mexico Border
			 
			 
			
		
		
		And this all stems from Fox and friends 
 
Even if border crossing are down 
 
 
In the five months ending in February, apprehensions of unaccompanied minors were down 36 percent from the same period a year earlier, while apprehensions of families were down 46 percent. 
 
does he understand you can not deploy the Military..  the national guard may be used  
 
Active-duty personnel face strict limits on their ability to operate on U.S. soil. An 1878 law bans federal troops from enforcing domestic laws 
 
 
 Fox and friends  spoke  about a “caravan”referring to the group as an “army of migrants marching to America” and a “small migrant army marching toward the United States.” 
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2018, 05:19 PM
			
			
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		 Lou Dobbs told him to do it. 
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			04-03-2018, 06:34 PM
			
			
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		 Yet troops have been at the borders many times in the past hundred years. 
 
BTW - I do think it is poor use of resources to have federal troops there other than a technical / support role but it has been done. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-03-2018, 08:26 PM
			
			
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		 It would be nice if trump just shut the #^&#^&#^&#^& up for once. 
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			04-04-2018, 03:38 AM
			
			
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				Yet troops have been at the borders many times in the past hundred years. 
 
BTW - I do think it is poor use of resources to have federal troops there other than a technical / support role but it has been done. 
			
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It has been done ....  no one is disputing  that National guard troops have been deployed   
 
buts thats really not what Tump is  talking about or why he is suggesting such a move ..
 
he was told his Base thinks he is weak on immigration ...  So this is his answer .. more abuse of power  his actions are for himself not for the country  
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2018, 03:45 AM
			
			
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		 immigrants in huge numbers is an invasion of sorts 
 
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			04-04-2018, 04:09 AM
			
			
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				immigrants in huge numbers is an invasion of sorts 
 
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1000 men women and children no guns or ammo are considered a huge invasion ?
 
TRUMPS acting like that commercial with the women whos cutting up her couch with a chain saw.because she thinks she won the lottery   And her husbands saying YOU MAY BE A WINNER!!!  
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2018, 05:46 AM
			
			
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buts thats really not what Tump is  talking about or why he is suggesting such a move ..
  
			
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			04-04-2018, 05:49 AM
			
			
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1000 men women and children no guns or ammo are considered a huge invasion ? 
  
			
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 he didn't say "huge invasion" ...he said "huge numbers"
 
and sorry to do this but technically..YES
 
in·va·sion 
inˈvāZHən/Submit 
noun
 
an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
 
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synonyms:	influx, inundation, flood, rush, torrent, deluge, avalanche, juggernaut
 
"an invasion of tourists"
 
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			04-04-2018, 07:21 AM
			
			
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		 I wish Trump was around when the Irish invaded at Ellis Island. Things would be a lot different. 
		
		
		
		
		
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
 
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			04-04-2018, 07:29 AM
			
			
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		 I was told I was going to be tired of all this winning.   Can someone let me know when that’s going to happen ? 
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			04-04-2018, 07:38 AM
			
			
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				I wish Trump was around when the Irish invaded at Ellis Island. Things would be a lot different. 
			
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 were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process?  
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2018, 08:25 AM
			
			
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				I was told I was going to be tired of all this winning.   Can someone let me know when that’s going to happen ? 
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 Are you sure it wasn't Whining, I know I'm tired of that  
		
		
		
		
		
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		A little history and I can find ones that are much more partisan, each way. 
https://www.history.com/news/the-bir...al-immigration 
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2018, 09:00 AM
			
			
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			04-04-2018, 12:16 PM
			
			
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				were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process? 
			
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			04-04-2018, 12:22 PM
			
			
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				do you have a point? 
			
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If they were Northern Europeans all would be fine, the US has given preferential treatment to White Protestants for 150 years.  
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			04-04-2018, 12:51 PM
			
			
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				were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process? 
			
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 They're fleeing violence and political repression in their home country. Doesn't that give them a right to petition for asylum under our legal immigration process?
 
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			04-04-2018, 12:57 PM
			
			
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				Doesn't that give them a right to petition for asylum under our legal immigration process?
  
			
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 Didn't President Trump claim that they were going to apply under DACA?  
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-04-2018, 01:46 PM
			
			
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				They're fleeing violence and political repression in their home country. Doesn't that give them a right to petition for asylum under our legal immigration process? 
 
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 seems like an odd way to ask for asylum, though I think they have to petition for refugee status first?..demanding open borders and citizenship of the world?  
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			04-04-2018, 01:48 PM
			
			
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			04-04-2018, 01:49 PM
			
			
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				Unfortunately, all immigration was legal given what those poaching buggers have done to our striper populations. 
			
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		 Maybe this is like excercise Jade Helm when people thought the military was going to overtake Texas?  Good thing people have ARs. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				Maybe this is like excercise Jade Helm when people thought the military was going to overtake Texas?  Good thing people have ARs. 
			
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 Just something else Obama did, similar to being born in Africa. 
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				Just something else Obama did, similar to being born in Africa. 
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				seems like an odd way to ask for asylum, though I think they have to petition for refugee status first?..demanding open borders and citizenship of the world? 
			
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 The list of demands doesn't seem that crazy does it? I'm thinking of demanding the same thing from the Trump administration.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Trump “will be signing a proclamation to that effect today.” 
 
Nielsen added that plans were still “being finalized” but that officials were “working with all haste” to implement the measure. “We do hope that the deployment begins immediately,”  they are clueless on how this works they watch to much TV  
 
 
Syria war: Trump 'persuaded not to pull out immediately' 
 
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				were they marching across the border at Ellis Island giving the middle finger to our legal immigration process? 
 
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				Unfortunately, given what those poaching buggers have done to our striper populations, still don't know what the hell this is supposed to mean   
 
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