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		Went down yesterday while installing a storm door. Stepped out and down from entry and left foot slid forward as the 2x2 foam mat slid on either water or ice or both. Right leg, the one with arthritis and no ACL, folded underneath me and I landed on my back with my butt on my heel.... That knee has not bent that far in 45 years. Iced last night, but going to Dr this morning, and then presumably for MRI. This sux. Might force my hand into knee replacement.... Ankle hurts too. 
 
 
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		YIKES   
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		 Geeees,,,, sooner or later that knee will need u no what... 
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		 That sucks Ross.  Hoping for a quick recovery! 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Ross! 
Time to shift gears out of work mode 
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		 Ross I know you only know one speed - but downshifting is sometimes necessary when we get older. Good luck at Dr and recovery. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Thanks all... MRI at 5:20pm today up in Newburyport. Will drop off a reel to Martha at Surfland beforehand, so something positive! 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Ross, how did you make out what the MRI? 
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		 Haven't got results, but we know that I tore the PCL. Lost ACL 40 years ago. Only really one diagnosis and option. Now just have to get into a surgeon's office and on the schedule. And I would be thrilled to done with the pain from arthritis and bone on bone after doing PT for the replacement joint 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Ouch - sucks having no ACL 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Health system is so phukked up.... You have to advocate for yourself at every turn, almost forcing you to be rude and pushy.  
I have to call to check in for any cancellations morning and afternoon daily, or just wait ten days to get into the surgeon's office. It's not like this is elective surgery...... 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Ross 
Took 3 months for me to get a 10 minute procedure to stop the pain from a pinched nerve in my neck,,, unbearable at times.... 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 So it appears that the only way to be seen right away is to call 911, get an ambulance, go to ER, and then be seen by surgeon..... Up at 0400 with the pain. Why is this so difficult in America today? 
		
		
		
		
		
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				So it appears that the only way to be seen right away is to call 911, get an ambulance, go to ER, and then be seen by surgeon..... Up at 0400 with the pain. Why is this so difficult in America today? 
			
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		 The system is guiding me to be on oxy for two months while I wait for surgery?!?! This is nukking futz! 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I would gladly get up from this chair and drive to surgery this very minute. No problem. But I am being told first opening is March 28th..... And that is just in the office! Who knows how long before scheduling surgery... I am dead in the water. 
 
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		 I am getting pretty good with the filet knife Ross.Let me know. 
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				I would gladly get up from this chair and drive to surgery this very minute. No problem. But I am being told first opening is March 28th..... And that is just in the office! Who knows how long before scheduling surgery... I am dead in the water. 
 
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Sort of like the homeowner looking for a plumber goes to his GC 
Worked for me, but my brother is a doc. That helps too.
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		 Have yet to take an oxy since morning after... One week this afternoon since it happened... Getting my head wrapped around my new reality... 
 
Insurance... there is a $1000.00 penalty (ie. lowered coverage) if I have surgery before a 30 day period from the "injury".  Oh, that makes total sense to me..... 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Hope all goes well for you Ross, and that the financial burden of not working combined with the insurance coverage shortfall doesn't add to your physical pain.  
My wife had her "bad" knee replaced a few years ago and is very happy she did.  I have a post surgery picture of her knee but it's kind of graphic. 
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		 Well I wish I had scheduled to have the replacement sooner... No question about the replacement being the right thing, as "the hay is already in the barn" according to the surgeon I saw. BUT... they never do the surgery to an acute knee, and mine is acute. Means I did so much tissue damage in the fall that I need to do 4-6 weeks of PT to prepare the knee for surgery.... If he does it now, when it doesn't have much mobility, it will not have the desired mobility after rehabbing the replacement joint... So I am in a timeout so to speak, before I can move forward. Doc has a two week vacation coming up, which pushed follow up appt out to May, which does not please me. So will get second opinion this week, and a second schedule so I can decide which one to go with.  Start PT Monday afternoon. And cooking up a plan for work, be it driving/pick up/ delivery to other contractors, taking friends' family members to appointments, whatever. Just figuring it out. I really don't want to think about not launching the boat this season, but it is a very real possibility.... 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Ross, don’t rush this, surgery is a big deal, all that crap takes time and the more you behave the better the outcome... 
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		 I got home yesterday afternoon. Was still leaking quite a bit, even after drain line was removed, so that delayed release a couple hours. Just changed pressure dressing and still a little leak, but that is so much better than trying to get that blood out through PT only. Get pushing on that today after we get drainage controlled/answered. BM this morning... early excitement. No way I could be home alone. Wife has been awesome, as usual. MIL will occasionally ask why I am on crutches again... Will keep it brief with updates as I can report improvements that are truly milestones vs just little baby steps that I see.  Get me some fishing/family/Memorial Day pics and reports, please 
		
		
		
		
		
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