Petrushka

[Pete F.]

In Syria (and in Ukraine), Trump basically switched which side we were on in a war. He switched us to the Russian side. Counter to America’s interest, over and over, he does what’s best for Russia.
He has no strong convictions on foreign policy other than when he’s advancing Russia’s agenda or defending Putin.
He is obviously compromised. Why are we acting as though there’s any chance in the world he’s not?
It doesn’t even matter if there’s Russian money in his businesses or whether there’s a pee tape. At this point, he’s afraid they’ll undermine his legitimacy by admitting they helped him win or that they won’t help him win next time. Either way, Russia owns him.
At every step of the way, he is executing Russian foreign policy. He is basically Putin’s foreign minister. They have him. It’s over.

Reason enough to impeach.

[scottw]

yup....he's got almost everyone fooled but you peto...keep up the great work..babushka baba yaga

[The Dad Fisherman]

[Sea Dangles]

At this point,his family should intervene.
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[scottw]

I'd miss the chuckles

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'd miss the chuckles

you and tdf are one a roll.!! remember to tip your waitresses, they’ll be here all week.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

genius.
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[Pete F.]

Possible Trump motives

1) Protecting income flow from Trump Towers Istanbul

2) Payoff to Turkey to cover up recording of Khashoggi murder by Trump allies

3) Obeisance to Putin

4) Warning to House: if you impeach me, Ill burn every American alliance and interest before I go

[Pete F.]

What the US just did in quitting Northern Syria and abandoning one of our strongest allies the Kurds sends a chilling message to would-be allies around the world: don’t bother committing to us, because we aren’t committed to you.

[Pete F.]

It’s been debated for the better part of 4 yrs in gop circles the damage that Trump is capable of doing to our national security - the consensus among gop elected officials and national security types is US can survive 4 years but not 8. This would be the moment to say that out loud.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Possible Trump motives

1) Protecting income flow from Trump Towers Istanbul

2) Payoff to Turkey to cover up recording of Khashoggi murder by Trump allies

3) Obeisance to Putin

4) Warning to House: if you impeach me, Ill burn every American alliance and interest before I go

you conveniently left out. 5th possible motive, that the mission was to fight ISIS there, with the kurds,, and we won, and thus is trump fulfilling an explicit promise to avoid endless wars.

if there’s an issue with turkey, why does that only fall in us? why can’t the UN help out? why does the UN exist, anyway?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s been debated for the better part of 4 yrs in gop circles the damage that Trump is capable of doing to our national security - the consensus among gop elected officials and national security types is US can survive 4 years but not 8. This would be the moment to say that out loud.

by what math can we survive 4 but not 8? consensus among who, exactly?

didn’t we pull out of iraq
under the last administration, with negative consequences there? i don’t remember you posting about that.
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[Pete F.]

And it is a Great Birthday Present for his Master, Vlad

[Jim in CT]

pete you may also be interested to know that lindsay graham, who i believe you called trumps pet, is attacking trumps decision to withdraw.

the pullout looks like a potentially awful move to me.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

3) Obeisance

WOW...peto busting out the thesaurus....nice work!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

by what math can we survive 4 but not 8? consensus among who, exactly?


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he heard that from AOC

[Pete F.]

Stable Geniuses cannot figure out the difference between 4 and 8 as it pertains to a President.
Maybe Jacob Wohl could explain it to you.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Stable Geniuses

there is only one Stable Genius

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Stable Geniuses cannot figure out the difference between 4 and 8 as it pertains to a President.
Maybe Jacob Wohl could explain it to you.

i see you have zero explanation as to why we can survive 4 years but not 8. not a syllable to
support that made up, self serving statement.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

WOW...peto busting out the thesaurus....nice work!

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[Pete F.]

One term or two
And no as the most diehard Trump supporter, who doesn’t really like him, you certainly are not among the people with doubts about anything Trump does
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

by what math can we survive 4 but not 8? consensus among who, exactly?

didn’t we pull out of iraq
under the last administration, with negative consequences there? i don’t remember you posting about that.
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You have no clue on the topic... Please stop
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

One term or two
And no as the most diehard Trump supporter, who doesn’t really like him, you certainly are not among the people with doubts about anything Trump does
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i get that 1 term is 4 years and 2 terms is 8 years.

please explain why our
national security can withstand one term but not two. what exactly will
happen in the second term?

that’s not a fear tactic, no sir.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

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Are you getting as petty as the rest of them here?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

You have no clue on the topic... Please stop
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enlighten me then. what’s going to happen in the next 4 years that will destroy us? be specific.

insults from a guy who doesn’t know the senate is part of congress.
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[Pete F.]

Nikki Haley
@NikkiHaley
· 2h
We must always have the backs of our allies, if we expect them to have our back. The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake.

[Pete F.]

Why does he always sound like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, is it him speaking or Stephen Miller?

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Nikki Haley
@NikkiHaley
· 2h
We must always have the backs of our allies, if we expect them to have our back. The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake.

so you like Nikki Haley now?

if she and Mattis think it's bad, that’s about enough for me. unless he got assurances from turkey that they wouldn’t invade, and no one is saying he did that.

Haley will likely run in 2024. she appreciates your support.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Are you getting as petty as the rest of them here?
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Yep
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why does he always sound like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain

because it is peto....good job uncovering that