|  | 
      
        |  |  |  |  
        |  |  
 
    
      |  |  |  |  
    |  | 
	
		
        
         
 
	
		| Political Threads This section is for Political Threads - Enter at your own risk. If you say you don't want to see what someone posts - don't read it :hihi: |  
	
	
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 02:54 PM | #31 |  
	| Ledge Runner Baits 
				 
				Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea. 
					Posts: 8,707
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Sea Dangles  HahahaStill an historically terrible candidate who never should have been there. I smell a repeat btw.
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  I didn’t like Hillary, but she wouldn’t be selling our national security and allowing Russia to gain more ground for a personal favor, while inviting foreign interference in our elections.  What other favors will Trump be asking for in another four years and god help us all if a major military conflict breaks out demanding our involvement, I’d trust Trump with our national security about as far as I could throw his fat arse.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 04:52 PM | #32 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  She had far more moral character than Trump as did all the democratic and Republican candidates in the last election and the current election. If the Republicans continue to give him their unequivocal support and have no problem with his lack of moral character that is on them.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  i disagree that hilary is far morally superior 
to trump.  splitting hairs.  neither has any scruples.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 05:45 PM | #33 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2004 
					Posts: 10,313
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  i disagree that hilary is far morally superiorto trump.  splitting hairs.  neither has any scruples.
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  So give me some examples of her lack of morals and we can compare them to Trump's
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 06:06 PM | #34 |  
	| Canceled 
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: vt 
					Posts: 13,454
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  gibberish.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Trump’s approval ratings are mired in the low 40s, and he may remain the first president since modern polling began whose favorability number has never been above 50 percent in a Gallup poll.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
| 
 
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind! 
 Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
 
 Lets Go Darwin
 |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 06:49 PM | #35 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  So give me some examples of her lack of morals and we can compare them to Trump'sPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  she married a predator, lied to protect him ( claimed 
the gop was framing him), and slut shamed his victims on national 
tv, calling them narcissist looney tunes.
 
Spin that in a positive way.  
 
Gimme a break.  She and Bill are deeply corrupt.  But he was a good 
potus.  like the current potus, deeply flawed but doing a good 
job.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 06:49 PM | #36 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Trump’s approval ratings are mired in the low 40s, and he may remain the first president since modern polling began whose favorability number has never been above 50 percent in a Gallup poll.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  then why are you so scared?
 
Why does Newsweek have to 
lie about what he did over thanksgiving?  Why can’t the media be fair for a day?  
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 06:57 PM | #37 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2004 
					Posts: 10,313
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  she married a predator, lied to protect him ( claimedthe gop was framing him), and slut shamed his victims on national
 tv, calling them narcissist looney tunes.
 
 Spin that in a positive way.
 
 Gimme a break.  She and Bill are deeply corrupt.  But he was a good
 potus.  like the current potus, deeply flawed but doing a good
 job.
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |   none of that's even close to the current scummy person we have in office. Did you feel warm and tingly when the president-elect you voted for stood up there and made fun of spazzes and retards (the "takers")? When he calls people human scum? Do you know of a lot of people who have been banned from ever starting a charity like our president is?  And how are Bill and Hillary corrupt and why haven't they been arrested or indicted?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 07:04 PM | #38 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2002 
					Posts: 8,718
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by wdmso  Such. A dishonest statement . Sadly my dislike for Trump is based on his behavior as Potus . I understand you think its just i dont like him.
 Thats just you taking an intellectual  shortcut.
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Actually, it is me calling you out on a stupid meme you posted. I am not surprised to see you lash out with gibberish when cornered with common sense.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
| 
 
PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
 |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 07:09 PM | #39 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2002 
					Posts: 8,718
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  none of that's even close to the current scummy person we have in office. Did you feel warm and tingly when the president-elect you voted for stood up there and made fun of spazzes and retards (the "takers")? When he calls people human scum? Do you know of a lot of people who have been banned from ever starting a charity like our president is?  And how are Bill and Hillary corrupt and why haven't they been arrested or indicted?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  Sure,they are honest as the day is long.
 
Besides having to reimburse the White House for all of the items they “mistakenly “ stole.
 
Who would ever question their integrity? Certainly not a #^^^^^^^&.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
| 
 
PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
 |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 07:31 PM | #40 |  
	| Canceled 
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: vt 
					Posts: 13,454
				 | Keep in mind Russia hacked the RNC and the DNC but they only released the DNC emails. You have to wonder what they found on the RNC.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 07:33 PM | #41 |  
	| Canceled 
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: vt 
					Posts: 13,454
				 | Now DT is having Russia join a cyber security team. What could go wrong? Everything. Or more meddling in the 2020 elections.Putin’s Puppet
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 08:28 PM | #42 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  none of that's even close to the current scummy person we have in office. Did you feel warm and tingly when the president-elect you voted for stood up there and made fun of spazzes and retards (the "takers")? When he calls people human scum? Do you know of a lot of people who have been banned from ever starting a charity like our president is?  And how are Bill and Hillary corrupt and why haven't they been arrested or indicted?Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  paul, my disdain for trump is deeper than yours, because it’s genuine, not political.  i decided during the clinton years that a potus could be a scumbag but still be a good potus.  
 
Hilary also had benghazi where she kept flip flopping on what happened, she took zillions from shady foreign governments tonher foundation when she was sec state, the email 
server thing should 
have resulted in an arrest according to TDF who is non partisan and a subject matter expert.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 08:46 PM | #43 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2004 
					Posts: 10,313
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  paul, my disdain for trump is deeper than yours, because it’s genuine, not political.  i decided during the clinton years that a potus could be a scumbag but still be a good potus.  
 Hilary also had benghazi where she kept flip flopping on what happened, she took zillions from shady foreign governments tonher foundation when she was sec state, the email
 server thing should
 have resulted in an arrest according to TDF who is non partisan and a subject matter expert.
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |   the vast majority of my comments about Trump deal with his character or lack of character more than his politics which I certainly disagree with a lot of.  Clinton and Benghazi was a made-up issue in which a tragedy was politicized. Again, all of the Democrats and all of the Republicans who ran for president had far better character that who the Republicans ultimately elected.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 08:59 PM | #44 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  the vast majority of my comments about Trump deal with his character or lack of character more than his politics which I certainly disagree with a lot of.  Clinton and Benghazi was a made-up issue in which a tragedy was politicized. Again, all of the Democrats and all of the Republicans who ran for president had far better character that who the Republicans ultimately elected.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  you criticize trump, but bend over backwards to defend hilary.  partisan politics, that’s all it is.  i dislike them both.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-01-2019, 10:17 PM | #45 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2004 
					Posts: 10,313
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  you criticize trump, but bend over backwards to defend hilary.  partisan politics, that’s all it is.  i dislike them both.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  How am I  Bending backwards to defend Hillary? I hardly ever mentioned her.  You brought her into the conversation, not me.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 07:35 AM | #46 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  How am I  Bending backwards to defend Hillary? I hardly ever mentioned her.  You brought her into the conversation, not me.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  you attacked Trump ( fairly) for insulting people, but said it’s not as bad when hilary went on national tv and slut-shamed her husbands victims. 
 
you said it was a fabricated controversy, that hilary blamed a video ( therefore blaming an american citizen who made the video) for the benghazi attack.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 07:40 AM | #47 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2004 
					Posts: 10,313
				 | Trump does more vile things than Hillary or anyone does in a year and yet you are the one bending over backwards to defend him by trying to make a comparison where there is none.   The Repub. bought into conspiracy theories (as they seem to be doing now w/UKR re. election interference and as they always seem to do) to try to blame Hillary for Benghazi. |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 07:48 AM | #48 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Nov 2007 
					Posts: 12,632
				 | i know you are but what am i......  |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:13 AM | #49 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  Trump does more vile things than Hillary or anyone does in a year and yet you are the one bending over backwards to defend him by trying to make a comparison where there is none.   The Repub. bought into conspiracy theories (as they seem to be doing now w/UKR re. election interference and as they always seem to do) to try to blame Hillary for Benghazi. |  i don’t bend over backwards to defend trump, not ever.   he’s a morally bankrupt reptile and i never would have voted for him 
in a primary.  but i believe his policies are far better for the nation than hilary’s would 
have been, and that’s more important.  she’s also no slouch in the corruption department.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:15 AM | #50 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  Trump does more vile things than Hillary or anyone does in a year and yet you are the one bending over backwards to defend him by trying to make a comparison where there is none.   The Repub. bought into conspiracy theories (as they seem to be doing now w/UKR re. election interference and as they always seem to do) to try to blame Hillary for Benghazi. |  i don’t blame hilary for benghazi ( though she owns the decision to reject the ambassadors repeated requests for 
more security).  i blame her for the way she reacted to benghazi, by throwing an american citizen under the bus.  who else should 
i blame for her actions?  Did Trump force her to do that, with a Jedi mind trick?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:17 AM | #51 |  
	| Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist 
				 
				Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill 
					Posts: 35,378
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by PaulS  the vast majority of my comments about Trump deal  with his character or lack of character more than his politics which I  certainly disagree with a lot of.  Clinton and Benghazi was a made-up  issue in which a tragedy was politicized. Again, all of the Democrats  and all of the Republicans who ran for president had far better  character that who the Republicans ultimately elected.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  
Some of Benghazi was made up and some was beaten to death, but a sizeable majority of issues (the Video, Stand Down, consistent bad decision making at State, MISSING EMAILS FFS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ON GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS) did exist.
 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  you attacked Trump ( fairly) for insulting people, but said it’s not as bad when hilary went on national tv and slut-shamed her husbands victims. 
 you said it was a fabricated controversy, that hilary blamed a video ( therefore blaming an american citizen who made the video) for the benghazi attack.
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  It is all a mess and it better get fixed soon or I fear this experiment is done. |  
| 
 
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~ 
 Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
 
 
 Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
 
 Apocalypse is Coming:
 |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:24 AM | #52 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by JohnR  Some of Benghazi was made up and some was beaten to death, but a sizeable majority of issues (the Video, Stand Down, consistent bad decision making at State, MISSING EMAILS FFS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ON GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS) did exist.
 
 
 
 
 It is all a mess and it better get fixed soon or I fear this experiment is done.
 |  he’s probably going to get re elected, so there will 
be more temper tantrums.  the threats to the experiment are deeper than trump I’m afraid.  the entire media is working for one political party, we are weakening the family which is the bedrock 
of everything...
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:26 AM | #53 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Nov 2007 
					Posts: 12,632
				 | more protests and funny hats.....   
i wonder if pete will ever run out of gas..... |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:44 AM | #54 |  
	| Canceled 
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: vt 
					Posts: 13,454
				 | 🍑💩🤡Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 08:56 AM | #55 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Somerset MA 
					Posts: 9,452
				 | I still haven't heard a convincing argument on why he should be re elected. Caracter isn't a quality the Right wants nor is honesty or competency or a  stable foreign or domestic policy the deficit isn't a concern  faith he has none . The economy and jobs ( hes done nothing. Structurally no infrastructure)   its a sad reason to vote for Trump because Dems hate him and ingnore the rest.. and thats putting America 1st ..LOL
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 09:35 AM | #56 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2002 
					Posts: 8,718
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by wdmso  I still haven't heard a convincing argument on why he should be re elected. Caracter isn't a quality the Right wants nor is honesty or competency or a  stable foreign or domestic policy the deficit isn't a concern  faith he has none . The economy and jobs ( hes done nothing. Structurally no infrastructure)   its a sad reason to vote for Trump because Dems hate him and ingnore the rest.. and thats putting America 1st ..LOL
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  All that the Dems need to unseat him is a competent candidate. If anybody on the left is aware of such then they are doing a great job of hiding it. 
LOL
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
| 
 
PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
 |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 09:41 AM | #57 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Nov 2007 
					Posts: 12,632
				 | no kidding, right...?..if he's as bad as the mentally damaged contend, this should be the easiest democrap victory in the history of democrap victories |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 10:50 AM | #58 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Somerset MA 
					Posts: 9,452
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by Sea Dangles  All that the Dems need to unseat him is a competent candidate. If anybody on the left is aware of such then they are doing a great job of hiding it.LOL
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  thanks for making my point   |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 11:16 AM | #59 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2002 
					Posts: 8,718
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by wdmso  thanks for making my point   |  Your point was that Rs are voting for Trump to spite flakes. The reality is that they are voting for the best candidate. Sorry if that hurts your feelings but wtf.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
| 
 
PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
 |  
	|   |  |  
	
	
		|  12-02-2019, 01:17 PM | #60 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Jul 2008 
					Posts: 20,443
				 | 
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by wdmso  I still haven't heard a convincing argument on why he should be re elected. Caracter isn't a quality the Right wants nor is honesty or competency or a  stable foreign or domestic policy the deficit isn't a concern  faith he has none . The economy and jobs ( hes done nothing. Structurally no infrastructure)   its a sad reason to vote for Trump because Dems hate him and ingnore the rest.. and thats putting America 1st ..LOL
 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  get your fingers out of your ears and listen.  the economy is roaring, the right loves the judges he is appointing, he’s taking the fight to jihadists.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  
|  |  
	|   |  |  
	| Thread Tools |  
	|  |  
	| Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  
	
	| 
		 Linear Mode |  |  
	| 
	|  Posting Rules |  
	| 
		
		You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts 
 HTML code is Off 
 |  |  |  
 All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 PM. |  |  |