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		|  06-21-2025, 11:39 AM | #151 |  
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				 | Trump is likely playing golf today as he ponders the outstanding defense briefings he no doubt got from his super qualified group of experts.  Can’t imagine a worse knucklehead running the show during these very challenging global decisions.  His credentials say alot, flew 7 times on Epstein’s plane, 97 times pleaded the 5th, 34 felony convictions, 71 criminal charges, 26 sexual assault allegations, 6 bankruptcies, 5 draft deferments, 4 indictments, 2 impeachments, 2 convicted companies, 1 fake university shut down, 1 fake charity shut down, $25 million fraud settlement, $5 million sexual abuse verdict, $2 million fake charity judgement, $95 million sexual abuse judgement and a $450 million fraud judgement.  
 Sad and embarrassing “we the people” think these are the credentials required to lead this country.  Add to that he is one stupid mother and is clearly on the verge if not already suffering dementia.
 
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		|  06-22-2025, 07:57 AM | #152 |  
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				 | This administration thinks this move shows American leadership and strength…
 The world sees the USA claiming they were searching for a diplomatic breakthrough. But we’re lying.  To its own people and the world.
 
 So what are  the chance Putin  Kim or China will ever negotiate in good faith.  With this Administration. Or the USA ever again.  Trump single handily has destroyed American credibility. Over night.  And the cult cheers
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		|  06-22-2025, 12:00 PM | #153 |  
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				 | I think the blind squirrel might have got the nut this time.One question now is what he’ll do with it.
 The other question is how well our decimated and redirected national security system will deal with the possible threats.
 They’ve been concentrating on immigrants with bedpans, hammers and leafblowers.
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		|  06-23-2025, 02:44 PM | #154 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  I think the blind squirrel might have got the nut this time.One question now is what he’ll do with it.
 The other question is how well our decimated and redirected national security system will deal with the possible threats.
 They’ve been concentrating on immigrants with bedpans, hammers and leafblowers.
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		|  06-24-2025, 05:47 AM | #155 |  
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				 | Well, he’s certainly taken his big beautiful bill and Ukraine out of the headlines.Unfortunately even though he insists they should, I doubt that the Nobel committee will give him the prize for a war he alone escalated while he abandoned Ukraine and decimated American healthcare.
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		|  06-24-2025, 06:39 AM | #156 |  
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				 | Seems like Bebe isn’t listening, so they’re getting a “TRUTH”
 Donald J. Trump
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 ISRAEL. DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS. IF YOU DO IT IS A MAJOR VIOLATION. BRING YOUR PILOTS HOME, NOW! DONALD J.
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		|  06-24-2025, 11:03 AM | #157 |  
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				 | Trump is so sloppy he lets everyone know in advance what was planned, how else would Putin warn Iran to move its stockpile ahead of the bombing.  There are satellite images that shows a total of 16 shipments entering and leaving Iran's Fordow nuclear facility in the last 24 hours before the attack.
 If that doesn’t concern you, how about four civilians tech giant company executives promoted to one rank below general in the army.  No working up the ranks, no vetting, what could possibly be the motive?
 
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		|  06-24-2025, 11:46 AM | #158 |  
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 ISRAEL. DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS. IF YOU DO IT IS A MAJOR VIOLATION. BRING YOUR PILOTS HOME, NOW! DONALD J.
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All Trump has to do is tweet the US is fully backing a two state solution and convening a G20 meeting to work out an international structure for interim governance. All the Arab states would jump on board immediately. Lift oil sanctions on Iran for China and demand a pathway to reforms. It would work...
 
Bibi would have none of it obviously but that’s the point, Trump would get the schoolyard pleasure of putting the weaker leader in their place.
 
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		|  06-24-2025, 11:50 AM | #159 |  
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		|  06-24-2025, 07:36 PM | #160 |  
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				 | Some reports say we didn’t hit any relevant nuclear targets.Probably should've called it "Operation Stormy Daniels" because just like Trump, it couldn't find the target, finished too early, and couldn't penetrate.
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		|  06-25-2025, 07:43 AM | #161 |  
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				 | In todays world i wouldnt be suprised if we didnt cream all those sites but say to the itanians that we would claim we didnt in exchange for de-escalation.   Let them save face.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  06-25-2025, 03:21 PM | #162 |  
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				 | It doesn’t really matter anyone. The Republicans and the maga horde have walked away from democratic values and principles..   and have 100% gone dear leader mentality….  No matter the topic. Trump tells them to love it ! they love it ! until he says hate it!   And they flip like a light switch…. And as long as Fox aka Trump state news is in business..  it’s full speed ahead.  I doubt even a totally collapsed of our economy and government services.  Will. Convince his supporters how wrong they truly were….   They’ll just blame anyone else never the person in the mirror |  
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		|  06-25-2025, 05:11 PM | #163 |  
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				 | The messaging on the medicaid cuts is unreal, hey we are all going to die and Moscow Mitch says hey they will get over it.  Deaf, dumb and blind this entire republican maga cult.  Now the whistleblower confirms what we all suspect, the DOJ is all in and Fyou to the courts, can’t stop us now you liberals. |  
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		|  07-04-2025, 05:27 PM | #164 |  
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				 | Independence day for the rich, they can finally go get that next vacation home and the latest super yacht they have had their eye on.  While some on this day might be racing to see how many hot dogs they can eat, the rich are racing to see who can be the richest mother f*cker on the planet. |  
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				 | Interesting Facts concerning Speaker Johnson’s state.  It ranks 50 out of 50 state.   Medicaid covers from 31% to 47% ofpeople in LA’s congressional district
 
 A majority (69%) of Medicaid adults are
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 Federal spending accounts for 79% of their Medicaid spending
 
 Which is 13 billion.  They spend 16 billion a year.     This BBB is only going to land on MAGA HEADS.    Also. The new work  provision only applies to states that expanded Medicaid
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		|  07-06-2025, 07:52 AM | #166 |  
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				 | So now red state meat packers and farms and dairy farmers.  Illegals won’t be hunted BY ICE?   
 Trump said that he would allow the farmers who hire migrants to take charge and allow the migrants working in the agricultural industry to remain in the country. The plan would not create a path to citizenship as some immigration advocates have called for, but would protect them from the possibility of being detained by ICE agents during workplace raids, Trump said.
 
 “If a farmer has been with one of these people that worked so hard – they bend over all day, we don’t have too many people that can do that, but they work very hard, and they know him very well, and some of the farmers are literally, you know, they cry when they see this happen,” Trump said. “If a farmer is willing to vouch for these people, in some way … I think we’re going to have to just say that’s going to be good, right?”
 
 This is the real reason Farming added $223 million to the gross domestic product in 2023
 
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		|  07-06-2025, 11:25 AM | #167 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  So now red state meat packers and farms and dairy farmers.  Illegals won’t be hunted BY ICE?   
 Trump said that he would allow the farmers who hire migrants to take charge and allow the migrants working in the agricultural industry to remain in the country. The plan would not create a path to citizenship as some immigration advocates have called for, but would protect them from the possibility of being detained by ICE agents during workplace raids, Trump said.
 
 “If a farmer has been with one of these people that worked so hard – they bend over all day, we don’t have too many people that can do that, but they work very hard, and they know him very well, and some of the farmers are literally, you know, they cry when they see this happen,” Trump said. “If a farmer is willing to vouch for these people, in some way … I think we’re going to have to just say that’s going to be good, right?”
 
 This is the real reason Farming added $223 million to the gross domestic product in 2023
 
 So again these raids in sanctuary cities was just all. propaganda.
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				 | It’s really simple and nothing new.Trump has proposed releasing some ICE prisoners to labor on farms where the employers will “own them” and be responsible for them.
 
 What Trump’s proposing is analogous to the "Black Codes" in the post-bellum South, where Black men were required to enter contracts of employment under white employers.
 
 Having no such employment was grounds for arrest and hard labor. Leaving such employment was grounds for arrest and hard labor.
 
 Slavery in all but name.
 
 They will push the Cruelty Agenda as hard and as fast as possible. While most Americans are stunned, they will use our hesitancy to push further into what should be intolerable.  Going forward anyone seeking asylum will be sent to camps to work the fields for little to no pay. Slavery is profitable.
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 |  Everyone: The internment of the Japanese was the greatest crime against humanity ever committed on US soil
 
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		|  07-07-2025, 12:29 PM | #170 |  
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				 | Cruelty towards anyone the wrong color or party is their agenda. You don’t build a detention center in a wetland prone to flooding, unless you would enjoy watching them suffer and possibly die.  With the ICE funded more than any other law enforcement agency in this country, Trump’s Gestapo made up of masked thugs probably hand picked for their bent towards violence and hatred for immigrants, there will be blood in streets across america soon. |  
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				 | I see Too Weak Tacoman is at it again with tariffs.His 90 deals in 90 days is baloney and he’s moving the goalposts.
 Gas prices are up along with interest rates and just wait till you see what is coming in groceries.
 He’s busy deporting roofers and landscapers but seems to be unable to find the hordes of evil illegal immigrant criminals that he claimed existed.
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				 | Trump accuses Brazil of 'witch hunt' against Bolsonaro. Once again meddling in another countries business !   He did the same thing to Israel last week about Netanyahu.  
 Why are all his friends authoritarian? Or wanna be authoritarian. Yet a certain segment of our Nations population can’t see this.  Or are willingly onboard ?
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 Why are all his friends authoritarian? Or wanna be authoritarian. Yet a certain segment of our Nations population can’t see this.  Or are willingly onboard ?
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49 billion for detention facilities alone which is mostly going to private contractors. You can’t build ‘em unless you’re going to fill ‘em so expect to see the harassment, racial profiling, constitutional lapses, abject cruelty and completely insane business disruption explode in the next year.
 
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		|  07-08-2025, 11:44 AM | #176 |  
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				 | Isnt it funny that “woke” is really just the distilled down version of christian beliefs- being decent to others, fairness, doing whats right, etc….And yet the term is thrown around as a negative connotation.
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 49 billion for detention facilities alone which is mostly going to private contractors. You can’t build ‘em unless you’re going to fill ‘em so expect to see the harassment, racial profiling, constitutional lapses, abject cruelty and completely insane business disruption explode in the next year.
 
 Like most everything Trump does this will accomplish little but hurt the economy, spend more money and do great harm to our national psyche.
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What’s I find even scarier is he will have an army of unqualified and unethical and unprofessional Americans  signing up in Mass to save America.  Or their twisted vision on a new America …. So much for waste fraud and abuse.   This administration is all about slogans |  
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		|  07-08-2025, 04:46 PM | #180 |  
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				 | Channel 5 news just highlighted a story which highlights the stupidity we will see moving forward.  Young man with two young daughters visiting Canada was denied re-entry due to a twenty year old drug conviction in which he was fined and it was paid.  Nothing sane about what is going on. |  
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