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		How can these people live with themselves, do they actually beleive this guys should LIVE ? Great job Corzine, you encated a law that benefits the people that perform heinous crimes, hooray for the liberals! Think with their hearts and not their minds..... 
 
TRENTON, New Jersey (CNN) -- The man who raped and killed 7-year-old Megan Kanka -- the 1994 crime that inspired "Megan's Law" -- is one of eight men whose sentences were commuted to life in prison this week as part of New Jersey's new ban on execution.  
 
  
Megan Kanka's killer, Jesse Timmendequas, is among eight men whose sentences were commuted to life.  
 
 1 of 2  The Garden State on Monday became the first state in more than three decades to abolish the death penalty after a commission ruled the punishment is "inconsistent with evolving standards of decency." 
 
Gov. Jon Corzine the day before commuted the sentences of eight men sitting on the state's death row. They will now serve life in prison without parole, according to the governor's office. 
 
Among the eight is Jesse Timmendequas, 46, who was sentenced to death in June 1997 for Megan's murder.  
 
Prosecutors said Timmendequas lured Megan to his home by saying he wanted to show her a puppy. He then raped her, beat her and strangled her with a belt. A day later, he led police to her body.  
 
"Megan's Law," introduced after her death, requires that authorities notify neighbors when a sex offender moves into an area. Timmendequas had twice been convicted of sex crimes -- on 5- and 7-year-olds -- before he murdered Megan.  
 
In signing Monday's bill, Corzine called it a "momentous day" and made New Jersey the first state to ban capital punishment since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated it in 1976.  
 
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		Makes me sick, that SOB was sentenced to death, his sentence should be carried out.    
		
		
		
		
		
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		 That's funny, the reason that I have learned to hate most pubes the last few years is that they tend to show their classlessness by posting articles entitled "Why I hate democrats". 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Well, 
As a Dem. I favor selected death for crimes. 
Rape/kill a child is one, shooting cops, and others. I have no problem with it. 
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			12-17-2007, 04:22 PM
			
			
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		 But you'd never see that thing happen on the dark side Bryan. 
		
		
		
		
		
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				That's funny, the reason that I have learned to hate most pubes the last few years is that they tend to show their classlessness by posting articles entitled "Why I hate democrats". 
			
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 pube? If the word "hate" is too strong for you....try talking to the parents of the that girl, hows that for harsh. Maybe you can go on Oprah and complain about "classlessness"? Sorry, I have NO tolerance for the BS I've seen lately. 
 - banning tag at school 
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 - stopping kids from going to see Miracle on 34th 
ALL liberal ideas that sounds all mushy and nice but in the end wind up being wrong in so many ways. 
That guy that murdered and raped that girl should be skinned alive. Period. Instead he was allowed to live, read books, watch tv, write letters etc, that my friend was signed by a Dem and gets to teh core of why I LOATHE (ok, I'll compromise) MOST democrats.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Take it easy man....    Sure, the childkillers should die. However, there have been innocent people on death row. I think the logic behind Corzine's decision is based on letting the convicted serve life rather than execute someone wrongly convicted. Lots of innocent people have been sentenced to life...and death, only to have later been exonerated. And life in prison without the possibility of parole is no Embassy Suites by any stretch of the word. Believe me, that childkiller, is not going to have and easy time. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 I forgot how much republicans want to kill people. kill kill kill..  If they are bad kill kill kill... if you think they are going to do something bad... kill kill kill... 
 
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		RIJIMMY, you're pretty much off of the deep end here. It's almost as if you actually believe NJ Dem's passed this law to let a convicted child killer off the hook   
When you're against the death penalty you're against it no matter what, and it's a good flipside to the staunch pro-lifers like JoeP    
Sounds like the pro-death penalty crowd is just using this poor childs memory to further their cause, when in reality I'm sure her killer isn't exactly enjoying his time in prison. You do know what usually happens to child abusers in jail don't you?
 
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 the same thing you tried to do to me at black rock at 1:00 am???
  
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		 uffah is it possible for you to speak your own thoughts or are you just stupid? flashcards went out of style when i was in the 2nd grade. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		Id also like to point out that Spence has every so subtle man boobs.    
		
		
		
		
		
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		 One other comment; 
N.J. hadn't executed ANYONE since JFK was in office, so this was likely more than anything a PR move; if so, nothing more than stupid politics at play.  
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		 I look at it this way, the families of those people suiffer everyday. Those in prison, while life is miserable, can still have some pleasure,read books, whack-off, write poetry, whatever.....they should not have that right 
so you dems are FOR other inmates torturing them?sounds cruel and unusual to me... 
I believe some people should die and are not fit for living.  
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				I look at it this way, the families of those people suiffer everyday. Those in prison, while life is miserable, can still have some pleasure,read books, whack-off, write poetry, whatever.....they should not have that right 
so you dems are FOR other inmates torturing them?sounds cruel and unusual to me... 
I believe some people should die and are not fit for living.  
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 I love it. 
 Don't label  ME a Republican, but I'm free to whitewash an entire party, if you belong or not (my choice) with my  HATE because we differ on an issue.
 
Boy, you got problems.
 
Sounds like your beef is with the prison system for being too much of a  cakewalk and not the Democratic party (who's walking in step with the rest of the industrialized world.)
 
I personally don't see how killing someone is in any way payment to society for their ill ways. I also don't believe the death penalty is a deterrent to crime. 
 
Considering the cost of execution under our legal system is so incredibly high, that there does exist the potential to kill an innocent person and that the vast majority of countries who do still allow it are led by oppressive dictatorial regimes...Who's company do you want to keep?
 
It seems like the Dems in NJ had the opportunity to get this through and so they took it. Considering the considerable pain these cases do cause how infrequent they may be (TX aside), why not just remove it from the books and save everybody the cost and headache?
 
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		 I did not think republican was a label, it was a political party someone chooses, actually registers for. Its a black and white thing, you are or you arent. Since the responses to my thread targeted republicans, I just stated that I am not one, which everyone assumed. So target me, fine,  but lumping me in with republicans is 100% incorrect.  My voter registration ( part of the public record, not a label) is independant.  Just like rudolph and hermie, I am in - dep-en-dant. 
The funny thing Spence, if I remember correctly, you ARE a republican, no?  
 
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		 Anyone know how people those those great republican states like Kansas, Kentucky, Georgia, etc have executed in the last year? 
		
		
		
		
		
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				The funny thing Spence, if I remember correctly, you ARE a republican, no?  
 
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 I was a registered Republican for the majority of my voting life, although I'm currently not affiliated with any party.
 
And I'd wager you don't disagree with Dem politicians 95% of the time. Just like the GOP there's a spectrum that's represented by elected leaders. The more liberal Democrats get most of the press as they're in opposition to the more right-wing Republicans...hey, it makes for better news don't it?
 
Did you know that 47 Democratic House members are part of the Blue Dog Coalition, officially stating their beliefs in fiscal conservatisim?
 
A lot more goes on in Washington besides what's on Rush or reported by Moveon.org.
 
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				I was a registered Republican for the majority of my voting life, although I'm currently not affiliated with any party. 
 
And I'd wager you don't disagree with Dem politicians 95% of the time. Just like the GOP there's a spectrum that's represented by elected leaders. The more liberal Democrats get most of the press as they're in opposition to the more right-wing Republicans...hey, it makes for better news don't it? 
 
Did you know that 47 Democratic House members are part of the Blue Dog Coalition, officially stating their beliefs in fiscal conservatisim? 
 
A lot more goes on in Washington besides what's on Rush or reported by Moveon.org. 
 
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			12-18-2007, 03:55 PM
			
			
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		 Gee, if a bear, coyote or any other land "predator" attacks a human, it is usually "put down" because that animal has made a connection between humans and food/prey. 
Now these are just animals that "don't know any better". 
 
I would think that when considering a rapist/killer, you're talking about an "animal" that should know better, and should know the difference of right from wrong. If experience has taught us anything, 
it would be that once a human has killed another human (except for self defense) they have little reservations about killing another. 
This is the same basis for putting animals down (see above). 
 
I know that there are innocent people railroaded by our glorious legal system that is driven more by fame and fortune than by the search for truth and justice, but there are also those convicted by their own confessions and stupidity, and some of these persons deserve to have the sentences they were given be carried out. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-18-2007, 04:10 PM
			
			
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		Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head.....   
		
		
		
		
		
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