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		|  12-27-2010, 09:37 PM | #1 |  
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 Should the Pres really be spending his time with this stuff?  I mean, did other Presidents waste their time calling NFL owners congratulating them for giving second chances to players?  Do you think the Pres knows that Philadelphia Eagles Owner Jeff Lurie was looking only to win and not giving Vick a "second chance" out of the kindness of his heart?  Maybe I'm being too nit picky but I just don't get it.  I wonder if the Pres would feel the same way if Vick used his dog for bait.President Obama Praises Second Chances Michael Vick to Eagles Owner - ABC News 
He doesn't stop at Vick, I also like this line from the article "The president also spoke about Tiger Woods' very public troubles, telling People magazine that the golf pro could "absolutely" be rehabilitated."
 
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		|  12-27-2010, 10:32 PM | #2 |  
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				 | O has no understanding of his position or the office.  Guys like Putin read this chit and laugh at us.  It is like the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway talking shop the guy on the street fussing over 5 shares of penny stock. |  
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					Originally Posted by striperman36   |  That was funny. I saw that a week or too ago. Putin has balls though........ |  
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		|  12-27-2010, 10:55 PM | #5 |  
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				 | If you didn't like it, he got you 'erased' |  
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		|  12-27-2010, 11:02 PM | #6 |  
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				 | that's the KGB background for you.  I think we need someone "in between" |  
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		|  12-27-2010, 11:07 PM | #7 |  
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		|  12-28-2010, 05:13 AM | #8 |  
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				 | he  is praising the sports people half the time he's suposed to be running this country 
 and the other half, he's shooting hoops or playin golf. 
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		|  12-28-2010, 07:44 AM | #9 |  
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				 | Wow.
 He took 5 min to comment on a couple of sports related things and make a phone call.
 
 you really think this is half his time?  Should they stop the tradition of Championship teams coming to the white house?
 
 give me a break.
 
 where is the emoticon for straw grasping
 
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		|  12-28-2010, 11:00 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND  Wow.
 He took 5 min to comment on a couple of sports related things and make a phone call.
 
 you really think this is half his time?  Should they stop the tradition of Championship teams coming to the white house?
 
 give me a break.
 
 where is the emoticon for straw grasping
 |  I don't have a problem with him praising Vick for what he's done, or praising the Eagles for giving him a chance.  
 
My problem is that he uses this as an example that people should be given a second chance to contribute to society when they come out of jail.  Is he really that clueless that he thinks the Eagles signing Vick to a contract is the same as the high tech firm down the road giving a mailroom job to an ex-con?  If Vick was a regular guy who went to jail for what he did, he wouldn't be working right now.  He got a second chance because he has an ability that less than 1 percent of anyone on earth has.  He also has a contract that says that he can be cut without pay if he steps out of line.  
 
I seriously doubt that Vick's situation is really going to change how prospective employers look at ex-cons when hiring for open positions.  Especially when there are plenty of unemployed people with clean criminal records out there looking for jobs.  If Obama really wants to put his money where his mouth is, he should hire a bunch of ex-cons who have committed crimes similar to Vick and put them to work at the White House. |  
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		|  12-28-2010, 11:35 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  If Obama really wants to put his money where his mouth is, he should hire a bunch of ex-cons who have committed crimes similar to Vick and put them to work at the White House. |  Doesn't he have someone in his cabinet who was guilty of Tax Evasion.............. |  
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				 | Why the heck does Obama NEED to comment on things like this?If was truly serious and really concerned about giving second chances to ex-cons, (as stated earlier) he should put his money where his mouth is and hire ex-cons in the White House.
 And not for minimum wage jobs, no, but rather give them a TRUE chance and give them real responsibility. Maybe they could drive his kids to school, or be his wife's personal assistant.
 
 Yeah, like that would ever happen.
 
 BUT.... take a PRO sports player, who was CONVICTED of a serious crime, who did his time (although not the max because of his pro status), and rejoined his team for a multi-million dollar contract, an the president just had to chime in on the merit of giving second chances.
 
 Once again our pres has shown just what an fool he really is!
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		|  12-28-2010, 11:38 AM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Piscator  Doesn't he have someone in his cabinet who was guilty of Tax Evasion.............. |  I'm not sure about that.  I was thinking more along the lines of felony animal cruelty, illegal gambling, dogknapping, etc...  That type of person could be easily rehabilitated and fit in nicely with the Obama family and theior pooch, don't you think? |  
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				 look at the Ice Cream 
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		|  12-28-2010, 11:40 AM | #16 |  
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				 | If the dude was white, Barry wouldn't call at all.
 Vick has exceptional talent and I agree is only on the field because of that.
 
 I think we should give Pete Rose a chance at the Hall of Fame. After all, he didn't bet against himself
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					Originally Posted by striperman36  If the dude was white, Barry wouldn't call at all.
 Vick has exceptional talent and I agree is only on the field because of that.
 
 I think we should give Pete Rose a chance at the Hall of Fame. After all, he didn't bet against himself
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		|  12-28-2010, 03:22 PM | #18 |  
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				 | This is newsworthy?
 Would you be upset if he wore briefs instead of boxers?
 
 
 WTFC?
 
 George Bush cut trees with a made in China homelite chainsaw!
 WHY DID HE WASTE OUR TIME?!?!?!?!@#!@#)&!@#()^!(^!^!
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		|  12-28-2010, 03:32 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  This is newsworthy?
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		|  12-28-2010, 03:47 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  It must be.  It's been on the front page of MSN, CNN the NYT and several other news sites.  So yeah, it's newsworthy.  Today, it was big news that he likes shaved ice.  Go figure. |  Sweet baby jebus! Shaved ice! 
What kind of president eats shaved ice in winter?! 
He must be like them dirty commies who drink ice coffee during the winter!
 
Obviously proof he's a muslim and wasn't born here. |  
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		|  12-28-2010, 03:51 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  Sweet baby jebus! Shaved ice!What kind of president eats shaved ice in winter?!
 He must be like them dirty commies who drink ice coffee during the winter!
 
 Obviously proof he's a muslim and wasn't born here.
 |  It's the media's love for him that makes me want to puke.  They continue to try and jam him down our throats |  
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				 | It just proves that he is our savior and king, since there is NOTHING more important going on in the world than him taking his kids to get snowcones while on ANOTHER friggin vacation!!What about the terrorist trial in the UK?
 
 Oh, wait that didn't happen here, and BO just don't care. (Remember the lame-a$$ gift he gave the Prime Minister? A DVD collection that can't be played on european DVD players!)
 
 Then to hear that he was voted most influential man and Hilliary Clinton most influential woman? I would like to know exactly what class of clowns were polled to get those results? Must have been a Democratic minority polling district.
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					Originally Posted by fishbones  I'm not sure about that.  I was thinking more along the lines of felony animal cruelty, illegal gambling, dogknapping, etc...  That type of person could be easily rehabilitated and fit in nicely with the Obama family and theior pooch, don't you think? |  It is a little different but Tim Geithner was guilty of Tax Evasion and after he paid his back taxes to avoid jail, Obama "rewarded" him with a cabinet post of "Secretary of the Department of Treasury" in charge of the IRS.  Why do people look the other way with this stuff.
 
I wonder what the "non BS" excuse for that............ |  
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		|  12-28-2010, 05:44 PM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by Piscator  It's the media's love for him that makes me want to puke.  They continue to try and jam him down our throats |  So turn off the tv. 
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				 | after watching how China is mass marketing ephedrine 
on an unprecedented mega  scale (mind boggling)
 
the necessary ingredient for making crystal meth in the latin 
american countries and shipping it world wide....
 
it would require a president with a "ball sack"  to tell them 
 to stop or else .....we will bomb you into the stone age...
 
 of course  he  won't do it....      
but that's what its going to take..... 
we have more people in prison than any other nation on earth. 
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					Originally Posted by Raven  after watching how China is mass marketing ephedrineon an unprecedented mega scale (mind boggling)
 
 the necessary ingredient for making crystal meth in the latin
 american countries and shipping it world wide....
 
 it would require a president with a "ball sack"  to tell them
 to stop or else .....we will bomb you into the stone age...
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					Originally Posted by likwid  So turn off the tv.Its that easy.
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		|  12-28-2010, 08:07 PM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by Piscator  what a simple minded answer |  For a simple minded problem.
 
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		|  12-28-2010, 08:19 PM | #29 |  
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					Originally Posted by likwid  For a simple minded problem.
 I suggest baby steps.
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		|  12-28-2010, 09:23 PM | #30 |  
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					Originally Posted by Piscator  Should the Pres really be spending his time with this stuff? |  A 5 minute phone call. SWEET GOD ALMIGHTY! WE COULD BE INVADED BY CHINA IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME!
 
C'mon, why are you letting the media control your thoughts?
 
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		| He doesn't stop at Vick, I also like this line from the article "The president also spoke about Tiger Woods' very public troubles, telling People magazine that the golf pro could "absolutely" be rehabilitated." 
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   |  Maybe he could be? Who knows? People are rehabilitated from being career criminals to being law abiding citizens.
 
Maybe people here could be rehabilitated from their media generated outrage?
 
Is that good enough for you?
 
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