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08-02-2016, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
I do understand it .. But I just dont share your apocalyptic view on the matter..
If you understand, and don't disagree that Supreme Court appointments can permanently change how we are governed, then you do share what you call my apocalyptic view on the matter. My "apocalyptic" view is exactly that which you say you understand. I wouldn't call it apocalyptic. The world will not be destroyed. Civilization will not be destroyed. But, which you claim to understand, the way we are governed will ultimately be destroyed.
if Justices are nominated by a Dem and approved by the full United States Senate ..
Hillary will nominate Progressive Judges. Progressive Judges will not strike down Progressive legislation whether it is allowed by the Constitution or not. They will, until such time we are fully governed by Progressive ideology and it is no longer necessary to do so, they will "interpret" the Constitution to support whatever legislation Progressives create. Thusly, Constitutional government will be replaced by Progressive government. I guess that's a form of apocalypse. If you don't disagree with that, then you share my "apocalyptic" view on the matter.
But yet you have no issues with the GOP stone walling Obamas nomination to serve yours and their agenda and stack the court with your minions . OK
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Conservatives and the GOP in general tend and claim to try to nominate Judges who apply the Constitution by the original text (the kind which Trump says he will nominate). Thus, with textualist adjudication Constitutional government will not be replaced by Progressive government. If you don't disagree with that, then you share my view that the Constitutional "apocalypse" will be avoided.
Whatever view you have, and if you care to "share" it, your comments indicate that you don't think that the legal framework for government we have really matters. What seems to matter to you is the persons or personalities we have running that framework. Which, actually, reduces the framework to insignificance. As Jim in CT would say, Constitution Schmonstitution.
I guess, in my opinion, what you don't understand is that personal "interpretation" to some degree changes, rewrites, that which is interpreted. And the less that interpretation is anchored in the text, the more it is rewritten, reshaped, the more it becomes totally different than the original.
The Supreme Court, through Progressive "interpretation," has been the main vehicle by which Progressives have overcome the obstacles imposed by the Constitution (FDR's New Deal, and the multitude of progressive legislation that followed up till now would never have happened, except in States where the people voted for it, if the Constitution had been faithfully followed by the Court); and even the vehicle by which Progressives have overcome the so-called "will of the people" expressed by their votes (gay marriage and abortion, for instance).
Of course, if you agree with what the Progressives have done, your response might be "so what!" " It's all good." Some of it may be good. And even if a lot of it is good, the problem is in how it has been accomplished, and what has been destroyed in the process. What "apocalypse" has happened.
If what is left of our framework of government is personalities who we invest by our votes with the power to shape our society, then we are basically under the thumb of the chosen. You worry about what Trump will do. Others worry about what Hillary will do. Minorities will worry about what the majority will do. No one is safe from the hand of government. There is no framework that stops it.
Not even your God. There will be no unalienable rights provided by your creator or by nature. Government, Progressive government, will replace that.
If you disagree with that, tell us how.
Last edited by detbuch; 08-02-2016 at 11:12 PM..
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08-06-2016, 01:51 AM
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time to go
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08-06-2016, 07:13 AM
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I'm concerned. You've been immersing yourself in crackpot websites and promoting utter nonsense like the story above.
If you need help just ask. Good crew here...
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08-15-2016, 10:10 AM
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time to go
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08-15-2016, 11:15 AM
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08-17-2016, 08:47 AM
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time to go
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08-17-2016, 10:43 AM
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surreal....
August 16, 2016 2:47 pm
An illegal immigrant who was tapped by the Hillary Clinton campaign for a new effort to register Latino voters is tied to a multi-million dollar voter registration effort funded by George Soros.
Astrid Silva, the 28-year-old illegal immigrant who railed against Donald Trump during a prime-time speaking slot at the Democratic National Convention, was featured in the Clinton campaign’s press release announcing the new “Dreamer” effort.
Silva is the organizing director of the Progressives Leadership Alliance of Nevada, a social and environmental justice group that is already involved in a massive campaign to register 400,000 Hispanic voters for the November election. That effort, known as the “Families Fight Back” campaign, is almost entirely funded by liberal billionaire George Soros.
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08-17-2016, 11:22 AM
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and you are surprised Scott?
as long as you follow the plan Soros is laying out before our eyes, you can soar to these heights to amass voters in millions.
and spence thinks I am over the top believing the Soros and his buddies want a world government 
this is what will ruin this country if we stand by and let it happen
It's time to fight back against the progressive movement because it will fail no doubt about it
THE CONSTITUTION IS MORE THAN JUST A PIECE OF PAPER!!! |
The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-17-2016, 05:47 PM
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"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
It's time.
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08-19-2016, 07:38 PM
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time to go
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The smoke screen is forming, also some interesting news about John Podesta (campaign manager for Hillary) and links to the Russians and the Clinton Foundation.
http://observer.com/2016/08/dems-cla...cated-content/
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09-07-2016, 06:58 AM
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time to go
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09-08-2016, 06:40 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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Originally Posted by tysdad115
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
It's time.
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mainstream America is arming itself for personal freedoms and personal safety. the prog/lib agenda sees that as a big problem....maybe because we won't be force fed their agenda. |
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09-22-2016, 05:16 AM
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time to go
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Last edited by ecduzitgood; 09-22-2016 at 05:26 AM..
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10-15-2016, 06:03 AM
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time to go
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Last edited by ecduzitgood; 10-17-2016 at 12:25 PM..
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10-27-2016, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Endless scandal mongering.
When are the Republicans going to realize they can't lift America up simply by trying to bring others down. This is why you have Trump.
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The scandal mongering accelerates as more evidence of pay to play and corruption comes out every day it seems.
Trump is winning because of the Democrats candidate is the most corrupt in history and the people are fed up with it.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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10-27-2016, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by afterhours
mainstream America is arming itself for personal freedoms and personal safety. the prog/lib agenda sees that as a big problem....maybe because we won't be force fed their agenda.
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Exactly
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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10-27-2016, 09:20 PM
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http://www.npr.org/2016/10/27/499601...-personal-cash
Anyone asking how the Clintons went from dead broke to millionaires again, here is part of the reason.
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10-27-2016, 11:38 PM
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time to go
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
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And Bill will continue to "consult for cash" if Hillary is elected.
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