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		 Every cable news network with a 24 hour news cycle is guilty as well. 
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		 Today, I feel that Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers. Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed." 
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		 Paul, the fact that you received your, so-called news from fox for 10 years speaks volumes about your gullibility: welcome to the real world... 
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				Paul, the fact that you received your, so-called news from fox for 10 years speaks volumes about your gullibility: welcome to the real world... 
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		 Yup, because Fox has changed a lot. I really love hearing the poor butt hurt saps crying about the one news channel who blows Trump. Cry me a river. 
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 There are partisan hacks at Foxnews who do noting but tow the party line, like Sean Hannity.  It's good if we all know who they are.  
 
Anyone at CNN or MSNBC doing the same thing that Peters did, calling out the bias there?  Would Spence call that out as being noble?  
 
On a good night, maybe 3 million people watch Foxnews in primetime?  That's 1% of the population?  How much influence does Fox really have? 
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				There are partisan hacks at Foxnews who do noting but tow the party line, like Sean Hannity.  It's good if we all know who they are.   
 
Anyone at CNN or MSNBC doing the same thing that Peters did, calling out the bias there?  Would Spence call that out as being noble?   
 
On a good night, maybe 3 million people watch Foxnews in primetime?  That's 1% of the population?  How much influence does Fox really have? 
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 I don't like Trump's tweets, very un-presidential.
 
He's a simple-minded baby who gives a thumbs-up to Fox and Friends when they stroke his fur.  OK.  Is there any reason to believe that Fox & Friends (a morning puff show that is clearly right leaning) is influencing policy?  Congress still writes laws and passes budgets, last time I checked. So it's not like Fox & Friends can say "abortion should be outlawed " and then - POOF - abortion is outlawed.  
 
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He's a simple-minded baby who gives a thumbs-up to Fox and Friends when they stroke his fur.  OK.  Is there any reason to believe that Fox & Friends (a morning puff show that is clearly right leaning) is influencing policy?  Congress still writes laws and passes budgets, last time I checked. So it's not like Fox & Friends can say "abortion should be outlawed " and then - POOF - abortion is outlawed.   
 
From where I sit, Trump is pretty much doing what he pledged during the campaign.  I don't see that Fox is steering his agenda.  They may be saying it's a great agenda, and then he tweets that they are brilliant for saying his agenda is great...that doesn't mean they are influencing the agenda.  I hope not.   
 
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 He pledged to end the deficit.  How’s that going ? Is Hillary in jail yet? Nope.  
Muslim ban? Not so sure.  
Keeping the bad hombre meskins out? Nope.  
 
Truth is he lied his ass off to get the uneducated white trash vote.
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		 How them Gitmo detainees doing these days? 
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OF THE 41 CAPTIVES, FIVE ARE APPROVED FOR TRANSFER AND TWO ARE CONVICTED OF WAR CRIMES. ANOTHER 26 ARE PERIODIC REVIEW BOARD APPROVED ‘FOREVER PRISONERS.’
 
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				He pledged to end the deficit.  How’s that going ? Is Hillary in jail yet? Nope.  
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 He nominated a superb supreme court justice, he eliminated all kinds of useless red tape regulations that companies no longer need to comply with, he is pounding ISIS, and he signed tax reform that gives more money to 90% of us. And naturally he's a big baby about it all, but we all knew that was coming.  He has also fired more people than George Steinbrenner.  
 
"Truth is he lied his ass off to get the uneducated white trash vote"
 
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				He nominated a superb supreme court justice,only to some people he eliminated all kinds of useless red tape regulations that companies no longer need to comply with(like gutting the EPA ?), he is pounding ISIS,(was being done well before he came along )and he signed tax reform that gives more money to 90% of us.([COLOR="Red"]total bs Just Capital’s analysis of 121 Russell 1000 companies found that 57 percent of tax savings will go to shareholders, compared to 20 percent directed to job creation and capital investment and 6 percent to workers.COLOR] ) And naturally he's a big baby about it all, but we all knew that was coming.  He has also fired more people than George Steinbrenner.   
 
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 "57 percent of tax savings will go to shareholders, compared to 20 percent directed to job creation and capital investment and 6 percent to workers"
 
I never said citizens are getting most of the savings.  I said most of us are getting something.  I didn't get a bonus at Liberty Mutual.  But my pay went up, because my tax rate went down.  Do you understand?  I don't know a single person at my company, whose paycheck didn't increase, thanks to tax reform.
 
WDMSO, you have a pension, correct?  Some of that pension, surely, is invested in stocks and bonds.  So if the companies you own are more profitable, that's good for your pension, which is good for you.  Maybe you don't care, because even if all those investments tank, you expect taxpayers to make that up, so maybe you don't care where your gains come from.  But believe me, it does matter.  
 
Your pension, if you live long enough, will pay out a lot more than you put into it.  You need investment income, to fund the difference.  
 
You seem to think that if companies become more profitable, that only benefits wealthy people.  That's not even close to being true.  Just because every cent didn't go to the rank-and-file, doesn't mean they don't benefit.
 
"only to some people"
 
Naturally.  Has there ever been a Supreme Court pick who everyone approved of?  WHen Obama nominated the racist maniac Sonia Sotomayor, did everyone approve, or only some people?   The people who voted for Trump, are thrilled with Gorsuch.  
 
"sounds like your suffering from stockholm syndrome"
 
Stockholm Syndrome is when you become attached to your tormentor.  Trump nominated a Supreme Court pick who actually believes that the constitution matters, and he is putting $200 a month more in my pocket, which will exactly pay for the little camper I just bought for my family, which we cannot wait to start enjoying together, and creating lifelong memories of time spent together.  If that's your idea of 'torment', then Trump can torment me all he wants.  Bring on the abuse!  
		
		
		
		
		
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				He’s setting up his war cabinet now. McMaster is gone, the Fox News guy is in 
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 On one hand, Trump gets crucified for being soft on Russia.  Now, Trump gets crucified for picking Bolton, a guy who is very hawkish on Russia.
 
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.  It literally doesn't matter what Trump does, he will get bashed for being Ghengis Khan or Hitler.  
		
		
		
		
		
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