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01-23-2019, 02:54 PM
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Who said this about the government
“What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming,”
Hint he’s a politician
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-23-2019, 03:53 PM
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He's probably done more damage to our democracy than most others in my lifetime, aside from maybe Newt.
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01-23-2019, 03:55 PM
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Mitch?
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01-23-2019, 04:10 PM
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Yes and Mitch should go out and talk to the pour government workers about to loose their homes, the credit ratings, forced into other jobs and the extended family and friends suffering. The sad irony is that this is all about security, yet our ports of entries can’t possibly be safer. So impactful for so many in a negative way, all over a campaign buzz word Trump was given to insure he would remember to talk about illegal immigration and now it’s about ego and winning the boastful campaign promise to build a wall.
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01-23-2019, 04:34 PM
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What a chit stain.
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01-23-2019, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
He's probably done more damage to our democracy than most others in my lifetime, aside from maybe Newt.
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In what way, exactly? We had free elections recently where the opposition party made big gains in the house, and huge gains in state governorships. Would a dictator let that happen?
Newt? Yes, my God he and Bill Clinton teamed up to achieve the last budget surplus, oh my God the horror.
If you listed the politicians in order of who did the most damage, at what rank would you get to the first democrat? 10,000?
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01-23-2019, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
all over a campaign buzz word
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Tell that to the widow and 5-month old child that officer Singh left behind for Christs sake. His death means nothing more than a campaign buzz word, there simply can't be any benefit to responding to the events that led to his death.
NO BANK is going to foreclose on the home of a federal worker who isn't getting paid. That will happen zero times, because that bank would lose all its customers the next day, and they would deserve to do so.
These people will be suffering, no doubt - bills piling up, credit card debt increasing, etc. In fact, when they get back pay, they should be compensated for credit card interest accrued from the shutdown, I'd be happy to pay for that.
The state of CT is offering taxpayer-guaranteed, interest-free loans to federal workers. The taxpayers will pay for whoever defaults. All states should do this. |
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01-23-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Tell that to the widow and 5-month old child that officer Singh left behind for Christs sake. His death means nothing more than a campaign buzz word, there simply can't be any benefit to responding to the events that led to his death.
NO BANK is going to foreclose on the home of a federal worker who isn't getting paid. That will happen zero times, because that bank would lose all its customers the next day, and they would deserve to do so.
These people will be suffering, no doubt - bills piling up, credit card debt increasing, etc. In fact, when they get back pay, they should be compensated for credit card interest accrued from the shutdown, I'd be happy to pay for that.
The state of CT is offering taxpayer-guaranteed, interest-free loans to federal workers. The taxpayers will pay for whoever defaults. All states should do this.
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Quoting tragedies which represent a very small fraction of similar offenses by us born citizens regardless of color, doesn’t change my level of disgust over a campaign buzz word.
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01-23-2019, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Quoting tragedies which represent a very small fraction of similar offenses by us born citizens regardless of color, doesn’t change my level of disgust over a campaign buzz word.
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most people don’t commit murder, we still pass laws against it.
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01-23-2019, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Quoting tragedies which represent a very small fraction of similar offenses by us born citizens regardless of color, doesn’t change my level of disgust over a campaign buzz word.
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how about the violence against people trying to cross? that’s not rare, and a wall would help
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01-23-2019, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Quoting tragedies which represent a very small fraction of similar offenses by us born citizens regardless of color, doesn’t change my level of disgust over a campaign buzz word.
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more will get killed by illegals, than will lose homes because of the shutdown. so when it suits you, you’re in favor of basing policy decisions on rare extremes.
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01-23-2019, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
most people don’t commit murder, we still pass laws against it.
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Well, those murder laws apply to people here illegally as well.
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01-23-2019, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
how about the violence against people trying to cross? that’s not rare, and a wall would help
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Likely would just make crossers more dependent on organized crime to get through.
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01-23-2019, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
more will get killed by illegals, than will lose homes because of the shutdown. so when it suits you, you’re in favor of basing policy decisions on rare extremes.
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You totally just made this up. Earlier today Trump said his wall would cut crime in the US in half. Beyond being a rediculous thing to said he clearly likes to just make things up also.
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01-23-2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Likely would just make crossers more dependent on organized crime to get through.
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it will
also create choke points, which can be staffed with law enforcement, reducing crime. and again, where there are barriers, there is reduced illegal crossing, and less resultant crime.
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01-23-2019, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
You totally just made this up. Earlier today Trump said his wall would cut crime in the US in half. Beyond being a rediculous thing to said he clearly likes to just make things up also.
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yes it was speculation, like when you said trump damaged the democracy.
i can defend my speculation. you can’t. our democracy will get past him just fine.
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course it won’t cut us crime in half, that’s absurd.
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01-23-2019, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
You totally just made this up. Earlier today Trump said his wall would cut crime in the US in half. Beyond being a rediculous thing to said he clearly likes to just make things up also.
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you just made up a word  |
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01-23-2019, 06:51 PM
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you just made up a word |
No, I spelled a word wrong. Big whoop.
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01-23-2019, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
more will get killed by illegals, than will lose homes because of the shutdown. so when it suits you, you’re in favor of basing policy decisions on rare extremes.
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They’ve missed one paycheck
One. Paycheck
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-23-2019, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
They’ve missed one paycheck
One. Paycheck
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Big whoop
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-23-2019, 08:03 PM
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McConnell blocks bill to reopen most of government For the 4th time
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01-23-2019, 08:07 PM
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People are losing businesses, homes and more
Just like when you add one job in industry, more jobs are created in support, food, clothing, day care, all the things we need and want everyday.
When people don’t have money or think they might not they change their spending and that is a significant hit to the economy.
This also doesn’t take into account the contract workers, low grade workers that are employed by government contractors.
The list goes far beyond just Federal employees
This is only happening because Trump will not accept less than a total win and the anti immigrant factions in his White House won’t give up anything.
He has no idea how to negotiate
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01-23-2019, 08:48 PM
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Thanks for exposing that information PeteF.
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01-23-2019, 08:48 PM
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Big whoop
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That’s my point
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01-23-2019, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
They’ve missed one paycheck
One. Paycheck
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Correct, we aren't back in the 1930s. But many people live paycheck to paycheck. At the same time, there will be all kinds of forgiveness of loans, no one is going to have their home foreclosed because they missed a couple of paychecks. I mean they might miss payments, but banks will grant extensions, they have to, to avoid brutal public backlash. |
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01-23-2019, 09:21 PM
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The media had them at Soup kitchens and selling off there appliances to make ends meet.....before they even missed that first check. It was rediculous
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01-23-2019, 09:41 PM
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Keep believing
This won’t be forgotten
Trump will kill the Republican Party
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01-24-2019, 12:33 AM
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Then there will be two dead parties and we can start over.
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01-24-2019, 06:33 AM
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Then there will be two dead parties and we can start over.
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A "Do Over" would be outstanding |
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01-24-2019, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
The media had them at Soup kitchens and selling off there appliances to make ends meet.....before they even missed that first check. It was rediculous
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yes the media is exaggerating what’s going to happen to them, as they exaggerated the role of the students at the lincoln memorial. Anything to make the party sympathetic to liberalism, appear to be brutally victimized by the conservatives. Every story is presented through that lens.
Spence still thinks that this Samdman kid was some kind of aggressor. He stood there and didn’t move a muscle, despite having a weirdo come up
to him ( sandman did not approach phillips, as phillips originally said), chanting three inches from his face.
there’s no talking to these people. their fictitious narrative trumps video evidence.
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