Is this the New face of America

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You better hope and maybe even pray that is the case. Something tells me otherwise.
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What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

Or how about his solo decision on Syria that nobody left or right can even fathom and has compromised his evangelical support which without he can not win.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

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that's crap

[Pete F.]

Commander of Kurdish forces in Syria to US official:

"I need to know if u are capable of protecting my people, stopping these bombs falling on us or not... If not, I need to make a deal w/Russia & regime now & invite their planes to protect this region”
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Commander of Kurdish forces in Syria to US official:

"I need to know if u are capable of protecting my people, stopping these bombs falling on us or not... If not, I need to make a deal w/Russia & regime now & invite their planes to protect this region”
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It makes you wonder if this was Putin's plan all along. Nothing Trump is doing here makes any sense in the context of our interests.

[wdmso]

its comical to see who thinks Trumps a stand up honorable Guy .. and who have no issues with the behavior of the Trump or his lies

who isn't at his rallies you should cause you concern not people who clearly have nothing better to do then attend a rally 1.5 years out from the election.. shouldn't they be working ?


they are the ones clearly.. who are suffering from Trump derangement syndrome

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

that's crap

I'd have to agree, it's not half the country, it's half of those polled, but it does indicate that the opinion of where this should be going is changing. I think that is why Trump has really juiced up the rhetoric and tweeting lately.

[Raider Ronnie]

[QUOTE=spence;1176728]What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

For 3 years it was Russia Russia Russia
And countless millions wasted
Now it’s Ukraine and how many more millions will they waste and come up with nothing 🤔🤔🤔

Meanwhile we got Joe Biden on video bragging about holding up billions unless someone gets fired, his son involved and it’s like every liberal has a hearing aid and the batteries are dead 🧐
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[Got Stripers]

Inviting foreign powers to interfere in our democratic process and our elections is wrong, whether it’s done by a Democrat or Republican. Profiting off the tax payers is wrong whether it’s a Democrat or Republican. Abusing the power of the White House for personal gain is wrong regardless of which party is the offender, I’m an independent and have voted both ways, this president and much of his administration is corrupt and I say let congress do its job and put it to a vote in the senate and 2020 if necessary.
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[Pete F.]

From Richard Engel NBC correspondent on the ground
Turkey’s conflict in Syria took a major turn today. First alleged atrocities by Turkish-backed Arab militias, executing Kurds. US military officials tell me it's true, and they are DEEPLY concerned it opens the door to BOTH ethnic cleansing of Kurds and return of ISIS/Al-Qaeda

The Turks are taking videos of themselves killing unarmed civilians, is that somehow acceptable to Americans?
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

Or how about his solo decision on Syria that nobody left or right can even fathom and has compromised his evangelical support which without he can not win.

The very fact that you are convinced that it will happen. This makes it a certainty that it will not. You are the absolute worst at making predictions on politics. But keep throwing scat at the walls and make sure you stay up with the latest polls. JUST REMEMBER ABOUT POLLS.
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[Pete F.]

Nixon was safe also and he didn’t sell out his country like Putin’s Puppet
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[Got Stripers]

Nixon did the right thing and resigned, Trump has never done the right thing, so he probably will need to be cuffed and shown the door. Better yet take him right to a NY district attorney van for the drive to court for arraignment.
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[wdmso]

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;1176739]

Originally Posted by spence

What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

The fact that he's entangled in a massive election scandal on Ukraine?

For 3 years it was Russia Russia Russia
And countless millions wasted
Now it’s Ukraine and how many more millions will they waste and come up with nothing 🤔🤔🤔

Meanwhile we got Joe Biden on video bragging about holding up billions unless someone gets fired, his son involved and it’s like every liberal has a hearing aid and the batteries are dead 🧐
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But but Bengiza. TDS at its best
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

But but Bengiza.

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wayne at his best

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Nixon did the right thing and resigned, Trump has never done the right thing, so he probably will need to be cuffed and shown the door. Better yet take him right to a NY district attorney van for the drive to court for arraignment.
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Originally Posted by wdmso

But but Nixon, TDS at its best
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[scottw]

I hope she wins

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

What is that?

The recent polling showing half the country would like to see him impeached?

.

told you it was crap...if they continue the constant barrage the can probably improve on the numbers though...


https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-ne...poll-analysis/

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

John you cant tell me Trumps comments are acceptable to be spoken by a Potus .. its not instigation you cant have 2 different standards .. How are My comments inflammatory. But Trumps are accaptable ?? I dont understand how you square that circle

Shephard got canned after bill barr had a meeting with Murdoch

And you minimize that with with a left media bias defense ..
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I have issues with things stated by multiple Presidents and elected officials. Including this one.

Here is the thing: A lot of the things he says can be debated as to how bad the statement is. Problem is that a lot of the things he says, while tone deaf (or instigating), are not the end of the world as many on the left cry in shock and horror. We've died twelve times over (34 Scaramouchis?) now from Net Neutrality and apparently I've stolen Greta's childhood.

Many people in the right and center no longer care at the outrage of the left.


What you said here - and maybe you missed it: Imagine if Trump was calling out Jews instead of Somalis like Omar.

What I said was, Omar DOES call out the Jews.

You cannot use the plight and oppression of the Jews as a foil against Trump over Omar when he does not use the Jews in that way, and yet she DOES use them in that way. Up to the point where she has been the focus of Congressional Censure that got watered down ant the last minute.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Many people in the right and center no longer care at the outrage of the left.

Exactly, the incessant caterwauling by the left as been relegated to being nothing more than a bed room fan, just white noise whirring in the background.
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[scottw]

oh good...more stupidity from the left...


San Francisco Chronicle:

SACRAMENTO — Undocumented immigrants and other non-citizens will be allowed to serve on state boards and commissions after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a package of bills Saturday intended to integrate immigrants further into society.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Exactly, the incessant caterwauling by the left as been relegated to being nothing more than a bed room fan, just white noise whirring in the background.
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", just white noise whirring in the background." up until the point it is generating humor

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

", just white noise whirring in the background." up until the point it is generating humor

why do people on the right associate every liberal on the left with clearly crazy left people ... but get upset when the left associates them with the far right or white supremacy.. and suggest the center is also upset... but you can't be in the center , because you dont agree with them but they haven't defined what they accept as center ?

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

why do people on the right associate every liberal on the left with clearly crazy left people ... but get upset when the left associates them with the far right or white supremacy.. and suggest the center is also upset... but you can't be in the center , because you dont agree with them but they haven't defined what they accept as center ?

This is overseas where there is enough crazy. I chose not to post something from this country - could have found it of course.

Why do people on the left feel that those that do not agree with them are fascists and racists? Why do a lot of people on the left feel that those supporting Trump makes them a fascist?



Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?

Will the real classic liberals please stand up

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?

Will the real classic liberals please stand up

I’m not sure you have any real liberals on this site to stand up. I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I’m not sure you have any real liberals on this site to stand up. I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.
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[scottw]

Quote:
Originally Posted by spence

I know some hardcore progressives and they are way, way, way to the left of me.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

he's

[JohnR]

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

This is overseas where there is enough crazy. I chose not to post something from this country - could have found it of course.

Why do people on the left feel that those that do not agree with them are fascists and racists? John that's a right talking point and you know that what get play by fox and conservatives some people do automatically dump all conservatives in this category and many right leaning people clearly support candidates who are clearly Racists didn't think that was debatable

Why do a lot of people on the left feel that those supporting Trump makes them a fascist?

When you watch his rallies hear his words witness his behavior and actions as POTUS and still support him 100% regardless that makes you fascist? not the goose stepping kind but clearly those who enjoy An authoritarian ultranationalism dictatorial type leader , and forcible suppression of opposition the media is the enemy of the people stuff

You dont get the privilege of owning only things you like about Trump





Why do people that identify as center, are not center, continue to tell everyone else what the center is ; ) ?


You still havent told us what is center to you? are you a centerest



Will the real classic liberals please stand up

I think you should be asking the classic Republicans to stand up.. rather than selling out


Moderates Are 'Politically Homeless.' Does Either Party Want Them?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

I agree
push back against a position with a counter position (lables and name calling or personal insults are clearly not a counter position )

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

We need to do a little less bashing of each other around here.

Good luck, some leopards just never change their spots. They bitch so much about how the left just hates Trump, yet their rhetoric and constant insults proof how much they hate anyone expressing legitimate concerns over their guy.
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