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			03-16-2004, 11:50 AM
			
			
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				Peanut imitations...
			 
			 
			
		
		
		And a herring for fun. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2004, 08:08 PM
			
			
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		Canyondiver, 
     What material are they made of?  I like them quite a bit. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-16-2004, 10:51 PM
			
			
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		Tha material is called Slinky Fibre and its from Raymond Rumph. 
It's a very fine denier but seems stiff enought not to tangle the hookshank on the cast. I just tied a baby bay-B about the size of a penny with it on a size #8 hook   
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-18-2004, 02:32 PM
			
			
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		canyondiver, I like the big one on the bottom should be great ! 
GOODLUCK GOODTYIN  
p.s. when I get home Ill post  one I did  
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-22-2004, 09:17 PM
			
			
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		 CD,  i took a class with Jack Gartside this weekend,  he showed me a great little peanut fly,   made entirely out of his secret stuff material  (basically fine shreaded polyester fibers  in pearl color) 
 
when i finish it i 'll post pics.. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-22-2004, 10:13 PM
			
			
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		made from gartside secret stuff..  easy to make.. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-22-2004, 11:11 PM
			
			
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		 Crash, 
That's funny... 
I was just playing with GSS on some tiny baitfish immitations. It's neat stuff! 
I like the fly you posted, would you mind explaining how it's tied? 
How much material? 
Did you do the acetone melt job on the head? 
Thanks, 
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			03-22-2004, 11:41 PM
			
			
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		 its more material than you would imagine.. 
 
basically you dub a small layer on the hook shank..   that lays  
 
down the foundation..  (make sure you break up the fibers.. some small, some medium..)  then dub a very large amount from the back of the shank forward to the eye... with an extra amount 
towards the eye..   use bodkin to pluck out the fibers.. 
 
then as you suggested jack uses adhesive that is thinned with acetone..  and that melts the fibers a bit..  then with a bit of salve or anything that will keep your fingers from sticking to the fly..  squeeze the head section to a shape that meets the bait your trying to emulate..     it takes about 10 seconds to get a good bond,      
 
to shape the rest of the body..  break fibers to lengths that fit in with the siloutte you are trying to form.. 
 
paint eyes on..  jack uses tulip fabric paint.. yellow for main part of eye.. then black over that when dry..   once paint is try.. he suggests more adhesive/acetone mixture to coat the fly.. 
 
 
the adhesive he uses mainly is the orvis adhesive..   he is adamantly against epoxy and other adhesives..   he suggested simplifying tying..   and that many other methods required too much labor..    
 
the good thing about the secret stuff is it readily accepts prismacolor marker colors..  so you can detail to meet the need.. 
 
make a bunch plain..  then color before you fish..   
 
i will say i learned far more  in that class then any other i have taken in the last 10 years.. 
 
 
 
i have some soft hackle flys that look like they are going to have a lot of life under the water..    tied those at the same class.. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-22-2004, 11:47 PM
			
			
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		 there are a few soft hackle flys pictured here..   
 
plus the same baby bunker and a super easy corsair silversides.. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-23-2004, 10:00 AM
			
			
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		 crash- get looking flies, and they do move in the water quite nicely- I've used some of his patterns when others won't produce. The worm fly- is that a spun deerhair head? Ron 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-23-2004, 01:48 PM
			
			
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		 yes.. the worm is spun deer head..  my first time ever working  
with deer head flies..   he showed a technique so easy even i could learn it..     i am now literally hooked..  i dug thru all my deer hair and plan on doing more tonight.. 
 
its so easy to do..   just need to see it done once and do it yourself after that.. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-23-2004, 02:29 PM
			
			
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		CRASH, GOOD SELECTION FOR THIS SPRING. 
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			03-23-2004, 04:33 PM
			
			
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		 working on a few other color combinations.. 
 
olive over white and all white and all black.. 
 
spending my evening spinning deer hair.. 
		
		
		
		
		
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I heard somewhere that piping plover is indian for "tastes like chicken" ..
 
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