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06-01-2004, 07:53 AM
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Master-baiter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NY and MA
Posts: 305
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Does everyone "bleed" their keepers?
I just started doing this and the quality of the meat is really good. Or maybe it's the quality of the stripers, I dunno....
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We all live for 7 seconds of screaming drag...
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06-01-2004, 08:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: .
Posts: 5,935
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Bluefish, tunoids, and skates/sharks, yes, but not stripers (just out of habit I guess).
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06-01-2004, 08:20 AM
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Below Me
Join Date: May 2003
Location: low
Posts: 2,909
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when i am gonna eat them. yep
not if I need to weigh them though 
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06-01-2004, 09:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Foxborough, Ma
Posts: 1,191
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Bluefish, yes....
Stripers, no.........
But since I like to eat bluefish, a little "gameyness" in stripers doesn't bother me..... 
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06-01-2004, 10:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Easton, MA
Posts: 75
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I started bleeding my fish this year and there is a noticable difference.
Careful bleeding the tog, they squirt.
I ate some great tasting bluefish at the Back Eddy in Westport last year. I asked the chef his secret, and he said to brine the fish in a Kosher salt and water solution.
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Fishing from an 18' Parker called "Moor-Sea"
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06-01-2004, 11:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 4,547
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yes
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06-01-2004, 11:45 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Norwell--E.Wareham
Posts: 217
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You dont want to bleed sharks you want to totally gut them before they die as they lose urine thru the skin and it gets into the meat when they die.yuch!If you dont you can smell and taste the ammonia.
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06-01-2004, 11:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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only tuna get bled. I got an 875 once ( a number of years ago)...you should see the blood from that sucker...was pooring out of the scuppers.
Others (blues bass, ect) get put on ice cleaned pretty quick.
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06-01-2004, 12:22 PM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 178
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Bleed everything you're going to eat
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06-01-2004, 01:26 PM
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fishing the pacific
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Port Townsend, WA
Posts: 993
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Interesting side question raised here......
bleed or gut your fish? I saw with Sharks, gutting is good - how about blues?
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Keep lines wet and tight in the pacific
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06-01-2004, 04:05 PM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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Anything that I am going to eat I bleed and gut ASAP!
But Bass are to be hole when you get to the dock!! But I have been known to gut them at sea.
Then all hits the ice!! Then what get frozen gets vacum packed.
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06-01-2004, 04:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: MA
Posts: 3,630
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IVE HEARD THAT BLEEDING ALSO LOWERS THE TOXINS IN THE FISH.
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06-01-2004, 05:22 PM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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If it's to be food, bleed it , gut it , pack it with ice. Well cared for food is great food.
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06-01-2004, 05:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Newburyport
Posts: 119
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I bleed and gut everything that I am going to keep as soon as it is on the beach.
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06-01-2004, 05:36 PM
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Authoritaah
Join Date: May 2003
Location: attleboro MA
Posts: 574
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I 'm gonna bleed my next (first) keeper if I'm out in the suds-last fall I saw a guy tie his fish to his belt and cut it above the anus (major artery) and leave it in the water. the fish swam next to the guy till it was bled, then he gutted it and said he would fillet it once he got on the rocks. he told me the meat keeps better that way and it cuts down on the red meat (bloodline)
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Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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06-01-2004, 07:49 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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although highly illigal, i keep 'em alive in the livewell, till it's go time.{no, i'm not "high-grading"}
then i slice there throats,down to the backbone, for the ride home.{livewell still running}
by the time i get back to the dock, there all bled out, and freshly dead. then filet and zip-lock.
makes for very fresh white, meat.
less mess on the filet table too.
mike
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06-01-2004, 07:54 PM
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#17
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Master-baiter
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NY and MA
Posts: 305
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Keep in mind that when you keep fish (or lobsters) in a non-recirculating livewell they are essentially marinating in their own waste (and there is a significant amount of waste). You would be better off keeping them on ice.
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We all live for 7 seconds of screaming drag...
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06-01-2004, 09:13 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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I slit it and gut them. then i dunk it in a fresh saltwarer with a stringer. and then i use shaved ices to stuff its stomach and bury it into the coller full of shaved ice.
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06-01-2004, 10:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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Most of the ones I kept last year (not that I keep a lot) were still alive at fillet time..... 
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06-01-2004, 10:07 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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alive at filet time=blood everywhear.
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06-01-2004, 10:08 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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macojoe, u mentioned about the hole. is the hole that u were talking about that is seen frequently at a local fish market and that shows how not fresh a fish is, right? i wonder how does a bass or any fish do that? its like they explode their stomach acid and it start to detoritorate the organs or flesh...?
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06-02-2004, 08:46 AM
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fishing the pacific
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Port Townsend, WA
Posts: 993
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maybe I am being ultra-sensitive here, but that seems a little cruel. Sticking it and letting it swim and die slowly. I think a quick-clean death is better. I respect this fish to much to allow it to suffer bleeding to death.
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Keep lines wet and tight in the pacific
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06-02-2004, 08:54 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Actually I would think Gutting it while it was still alive would be a crueler way than Bleeding to death. When you just give it a stick and let it bleed it just kinda goes to sleep......
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06-02-2004, 09:57 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Not to sound cruel, but I never really cared about suffering... it's going to die quickly either way, either x minutes bleeding out or almost right away if you gut and fillet it...
As far as bleeding stripers... never did it, never saw the need... if you dont like gaminess, cut the red meat off the fillet
As for Bluefish... I loooooooveeeee fresh grilled cocktail blues (under say 6 lbs)...
As soon as the come in (unless fishing is red hot) they get smacked in the head, then grab em by the gill, slit em ass to neck and pull everything out of the cavity... best done if still allitle alive, flueshes the blood out better.... just watch your fingers near the mouth and hold on... they like to wake up when you slit em... I use a Rapala fillet glove to hold on..
For Blackfish, most of them are allive when we get back to the dock, cut em with the electric carving knife and be done with em; white meat either way...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-02-2004, 10:04 AM
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fishing the pacific
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Port Townsend, WA
Posts: 993
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A friend of mine has a video.
He his dad and Dad's friend were out fishing tuna. As soon as the tuna got to the boat - still flush hot , and they bled and gutted it.
He was holding the heart in his hand...and if he touched it, it would beat 2 or 3 times, then stop. Touch it again and it would beat a few more times.
it was pretty cool.
I have seen the difference between a bled tuna and a tuna left untouched.....what a difference in the quality.
Which leads me to believe that any table fare should be bled, gutted and packed with a much ice as possible as soon as possible. Of course whenever the law allows.
-IWK
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Keep lines wet and tight in the pacific
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06-02-2004, 12:41 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I bleed all my fish.........eventually. 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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06-02-2004, 12:49 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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06-02-2004, 01:21 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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If its good for commercial boats its good for me.
Bleed and gut immediately and pack with ice.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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06-02-2004, 04:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Holyoke
Posts: 174
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I never heard of bleeding fish before. I think its a great idea though just wondering how I go about doing it??? Would one of you guys mind telling me.
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" There's no way, no way you could have come from my gene's. When we get home I am going punch your momma right in the mouth." Sheriff B. T. Justice
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06-02-2004, 05:58 PM
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#30
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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Quote:
macojoe, u mentioned about the hole. is the hole that u were talking about that is seen frequently at a local fish market and that shows how not fresh a fish is, right?
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The law states that all Bass need to be (landed by boat of corase) not cut up in any way. But I gut and clean all That I am going to eat at sea as soon as I get them!! When I get to the dock I be head them and go home.
The stuff I sell is sold just as you catch them, no gutting bleeding or anything.
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