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06-24-2004, 07:45 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Crazy Alberto!!!!!!
AWESOME presentation last night. Always being from the outside looking in to the world of the sharpies - you hit on a lot of common traits they share and provided answers and a some inpspiration to dig deeper....
Now to step back and rethink my current operations  and bad habits
Again, great presentation and thanks for coming up!
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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06-24-2004, 08:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
Posts: 2,294
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Indeed a very informative lecture.
I almost wet my britches over the story about the guy that he took out. I waited around for a half hour afterwards just cause I had to see for myself what the guy and fish looked like.

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06-24-2004, 10:03 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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I'm glad that I went to Crazy Alberto's presentation. It was very rich and imformative. Too many things to stuff into my head. I didn't take some notes all of it. I can't write and read his lips at the same time. But I was able to absorb some info into my head. I wish that I had my interprepter at his presentation.
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06-24-2004, 10:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: carver,
Posts: 465
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Alberto was great. he got my mind working "think out side the box". I might have a few things to try.
now if i could only get my hands on one of those Big O's.
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work hard, fish hard and die happy!
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06-24-2004, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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New Jack, what did he mean by thinking outside of the box?
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06-24-2004, 11:07 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Notaro, he simply meant that instead of thinking on a very small and limited level, you should open up your mind to a bigger and broader level and try to fish new methods and try some things that you would ordinarily not try. Do you understand Notaro? 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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06-24-2004, 11:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: carver,
Posts: 465
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uyp, what bigfish said!
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work hard, fish hard and die happy!
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06-24-2004, 11:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Weymouth, MA Fore River
Posts: 1,258
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Awesome presentation Alberto, thanks for making the drive up here.
I see now I gotta totally re-think how I fish - from boat as well as shore.
Again, many thanks. 
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06-24-2004, 11:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Cranberry Coast Gateway 2 Cape Cod
Posts: 4,143
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Alberto also has a great article in the new OTW. 
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" Happy as a clam at high tide "
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06-24-2004, 11:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 126
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Alberto is the man... I was wondering at first why he is "crazy"... he didn't seem to crazy, until I found out just how hardcore of a fisherman he is. I like how he is not afraid to challenge others' theories and perspectives... This shows that he will do whatever possible to be the best he can be... if it means his theories and methods are proved wrong, all the better! If I worked my butt off to keep a log for 40 years, I'm not sure how likely I'd be to travel around and divulge my findings to the world... it just shows how much he enjoys sharing his love for the sport with others. Class act!
He talked for over 2 hours... that's quite the gesture, especially after driving for 8 hours. He could have easily gone about 45 minutes and called it a night.
It would have been nice to get a diagram or something of his knot. I normally use a barrel swivel all of the time and never use a shock leader. I definitely have a lot of new things to try and new ways of thinking. I think a lot of "routines" and "trains of thought" were shot down by Alberto's presentation...in other words, I think we all got a good kick in the behind in terms of our "tried and true" methods, which is fabulous.
And if anything, he showed us that there's nothing wrong with being "crazy" when it comes to big bass!
Thanks again Alberto!!

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06-24-2004, 11:50 AM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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Quote:
Originally posted by BigFish
Notaro, he simply meant that instead of thinking on a very small and limited level, you should open up your mind to a bigger and broader level and try to fish new methods and try some things that you would ordinarily not try. Do you understand Notaro?
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I got it. I can't catch a big bass if I think small.
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06-24-2004, 12:10 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 126
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Notaro... m.t. pm's 
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06-24-2004, 12:12 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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MT-ied, man.
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06-24-2004, 12:38 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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It was a good nite. I caught some stuff I missed at the expo.
Great to see everyone and meet a few more s-bers.
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Live at Leeds
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06-24-2004, 12:55 PM
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zoom
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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I got to un-learn everything I know.....and start fresh... 
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Things done at the last possible minute are done with the greatest possible information. Procrastination is, therefore, the most efficient means of doing things.
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06-24-2004, 12:57 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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Quote:
Originally posted by Van
I got to un-learn everything I know.....and start fresh...
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06-24-2004, 01:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: .
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Quote:
Originally posted by BigMike
Alberto is the man... I was wondering at first why he is "crazy"... he didn't seem to crazy, until I found out just how hardcore of a fisherman he is.
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You guys haven't FISHED until you've fished FIVE STRAIGHT DAYS AND NIGHTS with Alberto with an hour or so of sleep a night.
NOBODY fishes harder than Alberto.
He's crazy 'cuz he don't sleep. A true non-stop fisherman and a damn good one. 
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06-24-2004, 01:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Central Park
Posts: 127
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Alberto's knot
This is for you BigMike...
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06-24-2004, 01:15 PM
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None
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Newton, MA
Posts: 4,464
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no kidding? damn, ben, he is degfinitely crazy
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06-24-2004, 01:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 126
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Sweet, thanks for the diagram! I have some practice to do before the weekend, when "I have a couple of days off, and I'll just happen to be doing some fishing" That was CLASSIC.  That guy is cool (the one with the plug in his pocket who gave that response to when he fishes, as compared to migrations, moons, tides, etc)... is he on the site??
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06-24-2004, 01:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 126
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Oh yeah, and he almost stabbed Alberto with his knife... forgot about that 
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06-24-2004, 03:00 PM
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Team Sea Monkey
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Quincy Ma.
Posts: 625
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I was the one who let him use my knife. No I did not come close to him with it...........Moose
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" You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it a Sea Monkey."
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06-24-2004, 03:09 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Knife or.....shiv!!! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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06-24-2004, 03:12 PM
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Team Sea Monkey
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Quincy Ma.
Posts: 625
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" You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it a Sea Monkey."
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06-24-2004, 03:23 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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But none of that applies to Mosse Knuckle - he fishes from a boat 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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06-24-2004, 03:25 PM
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Team Sea Monkey
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Quincy Ma.
Posts: 625
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AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH, John your drew blood with that one. Some one pass me a first aid kit............Getting misty again.......
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" You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it a Sea Monkey."
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06-24-2004, 03:26 PM
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Team Sea Monkey
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Quincy Ma.
Posts: 625
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If I remember right John you too have a boat.......
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" You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it a Sea Monkey."
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06-24-2004, 03:41 PM
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#28
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Quote:
Originally posted by Moose Nuckle
If I remember right John you too have a boat.......
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But its still on land some I'm still a surfcaster , myuuuuahhhhhh hahhhhhahhhh
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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06-24-2004, 07:03 PM
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Framingham, MA, USA
Posts: 410
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A very imformative presentation  Now if i can appply some of the things he talked about.
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06-24-2004, 11:00 PM
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...and in person!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Scituate MA
Posts: 999
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Oh boy I am glad I was workin and had my laptop. The notes I took!!! better than my whole bag full of junk. This is all from memory and things I have been thinkin about for a while.
Open your eyes to what is around you.
Take note of every detail when you are fishing.
Water - current, direction, seas, rising, falling, slack, chop, calm, temp..
Weather - rain, sleet, sun, cloud cover, fog, barometer, cold front, warm front, tropical depression..
Bait - on your hook, in the water, in the belly of the fish you catch, jumping, swimming, dead.
Birds - where, how many, what kind, what are they doing
Gear - Line, lure, rod, leader, terminal tackle
Lure - color, size, shape, float, sink, suspend, depth, rattle, scent, tied on? clip? glitter... Popper, Danny, Darter, Chub, needle, modifications needed? proportions of the lure? color scheme? hooks (treble? single? mustad? lazer? anodized red?)
Location-structure type? rip? bottom- sand?stony?vegetation?
Moon phase - waxing crescent? Waning Crescent? Full? First quarter?
Time?
Date?
Noise - hear anything? birds? wales? boats? mast slap? buoy bell?
Here's some I bet you wouldnt think of:
Dinner- pizza grease on the lure?
Smoke- you or your buddy smoking?
Gas- some fool breakwind on your surfbag?
Fuel - spilling oil or clean burning?
mung- how much and for how long?
motion - how long you been sittin still waiting for your vibrations to dampen?
new boots? repaired waders? stinky glue? stinky feet?
Put it all together.
Find the pattern.
Find the fish.
Some points that I had seen and learned watching predators... were reinforced hearing it again.
The hawk does not go after the crows that bother it.
Too much of a waste of energy. They sit back and wait for the sure thing. Figure out where the sure thing should be and the fish will be there waiting for it.
That frenzy in the topwater is like a food processor. Chopping up the food so that the big fat momma hoover can be down below slurping it up. After they move over and take the spot jumpers with them you go and target those monsters below.
That is after all what his secret is. He is not fishing. He is hunting. Widen your view to get the pattern and then narrow your scope to improve your chances.
IT worked for me to get my first keepers last year.
I am sure it will work for me again if I can keep focused.
You saw my BBQ. I take notes on how I cook it.
Photos of the process. And I tell and re-tell people how I cook.
No secrets. IT is easy when you know how to react.
Just like I see many of the people on this board.
They know how to react. They know what color to use when the sun tips behind the cloud of a retreating warm front.
I could ramble on and on.
What I really need is to pay attention to what works.
I love fishing.
I love Catching a bit more however.
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