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MikeTLive · 08-16-2004, 09:52 PM

I feel like the first day at a 12 step program.

My wife bought me a mini grizzly lathe today.
Gonna be here in a few days.

Now I need all manner of stuff...

wood - I have some spare 2x4 kickin around. I suppose if I cut it down to 1x1 it should do to learn from.
tools - any suggestions for a couple chisels to start with?
paper - would one of those three grit multipacks do?
gloves - might as well start right hands are still soft from all this keyboard poking
goggles - no sense taking chances my eyes are bad enough already
paint - I have some krylon or rustoleum in the shed
sanding sealer, epoxy, etc - will have to do more reading
stencils - maybe I can get some fishnets off you ladies?

If I get all that before PN2 think someone could give me a little 1-on-1 to get started?

Then hardware for the plugs!!!

lips, through wire, snaprings, hooks, lead...

aw man... this list just keeps growing!

anyone have some spares they could part with at the meeting?

NIB · 08-17-2004, 05:50 AM

Hi Mike.

afterhours · 08-17-2004, 06:15 AM

hi mike.

Jigman · 08-17-2004, 08:26 AM

Robert Sorby tools are what I use. 1 inch skew and 3/4 inch gouge. You might get some cheap ones to start with to get you through the learning process. Rather than goggles, get a full face shield. The first time you screw up and a chuck of plug comes at your face doing 300 mph, you'll be glad you got the shield. Get a respirator for wood dust too. Sandpaper: 60 grit, 100 grit, 150 grit. As for wood, whatever you have around to get you started is good. Poplar is pretty cheap at Homies or other similar stores.
Start with poppers. The rustoleum paint will do fine. Pick up some boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits. Mix 60% linseed to 40% spirits for sealing plugs. Njtackle.com has grommets, wire, weights, lips and other stuff.

Jigman

justplugit · 08-17-2004, 06:53 PM

Hi Mike-- ya got a great sponsor in the Jigman!

Jigman · 08-17-2004, 07:39 PM

<<Hi Mike-- ya got a great sponsor in the Jigman! >>

Yep, just send me plugs and I'll be your friend

Jigman

MikeTLive · 08-17-2004, 08:33 PM

Thanks for the starter tips.

I think I will start with good quality hand tools.
No sense in starting bad habbits due to inferior metals.
I also dont want to be constantly re-sharpening/honing them...

- you should see how picky I am with cooking impliments...-

My shopping list for tools and safety gear is now

full face shield
work gloves
denim shirt
one inch skew
3/4 inch gouge
60,100,150 grit papers

BigFish · 08-17-2004, 09:28 PM

I finish sand with 220 grit MikeT.....get some!

afterhours · 08-18-2004, 06:59 AM

mike, not sure that work gloves are a good idea, might get caught up in lathe, same with long sleeves. happy turning!

Jigman · 08-18-2004, 08:08 AM

If you wear a long sleave shirt, make sure it is buttoned and will not leave excess sleave to get caught in the lathe as it spins. I have never seen a need for gloves with the lathe.

Jigman

John E · 08-18-2004, 08:34 AM

MTL,

Lots of good advise so far.

The only time I wear gloves (disposable latex ones) is when dipping plugs in sealer or painting. Makes clean-up a whole lot easier.

Charleston · 08-19-2004, 12:51 PM

I worked in and around the machine tool trades my entire career.
Please, "NEVER" wear gloves when operating a lathe.

MikeTLive · 08-19-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sea-5
I worked in and around the machine tool trades my entire career.
Please, "NEVER" wear gloves when operating a lathe.

I can see the concern.
much like not wearing loose fitting clothing.
or keeping long hair away.

Any other comments?

backcast · 08-19-2004, 09:21 PM

MikeT, just thought I would add my two cents. I have turned wood for many years. I would buy a good book before buying anything else. A good book should discuss the uses of all the different tools, the basics of turning, and have a few simple projects. A basic set of turning tools generally includes between 5 and 8 chisels.

The 3/4 inch gouge that Jigman recommends is good for roughing out the blank, you will have to decide between the roughing gouge or a spindle gouge. For small stuff like plugs, I find the spindle gouge to be faster and more versatile. It is also more expensive. 1/2 inch will work just as well.

The 1-inch skew is good for final shaping and finishing.

You will also need a parting tool to separate the plug from the scrap wood on each end. A skew chisel will do this, but not nearly as well as the parting tool. You can also use the parting tool and a set of calipers to establish the diameter at key points on the plug. Then you can make exact copies of any plug.

Make sure all tools you get are high speed steel. Carbon steel works fine too, you will just have to sharpen it more. Which brings up another point, you will need a way to sharpen the chisels.

DO NOT USE GLOVES!! As you get better at turning, you will be able to put your hand on the spinning wood. This will allow you to feel the areas that need more work. Some turning techniques require that you support the spinning wood with your hand.

Lastly, there is lots of free wood in pallets, just make sure to remove all the nails. Green wood is also fun to turn and its free too.

Jigman · 08-19-2004, 09:38 PM

I know some guys use a parting tool, probably more of a personal thing. I like to keep the square ends on the plug when I am doing swimmers so I can keep things lined up when I make the slot for the lip. Same with any plug (like a darter) that you'll cut angles on. Good to keep the square ends on while making any cuts. After the cuts, ends are removed with a band saw.

Jigman

backcast · 08-20-2004, 06:44 AM

Good point about the square ends. I assume you are cutting the slot before drilling the through hole?

justplugit · 08-20-2004, 10:35 AM

Like Jigman said,and in addition the square ends allow you a center to work from to drill your hooks,weights and eyes. You can also use the square tail end to hold the plug in your chuck when you drill your off-center hole.

MikeTLive · 08-20-2004, 10:57 AM

thanks for the follow-ups !!
My lathe arrived and is still in its box.
I will be camping again with the BoyScouts this weekend further postponing its grand opening.

Backcast (etc) - Any tips on a good gettin started turning book? If I have time and get a good feeling from reviews and suggestions I will mostlilkely order off amazon or BN and try for a Monday arrival.

backcast · 08-20-2004, 11:07 AM

I like "Turning Wood With Richard Raffan". There is also a video of the same name. May be able to get it through your local library. Woodcraft in Woburn will have a copy and all the turning tools you could want. The staff there is excellent and will help you get everything you need.

MikeTLive · 08-20-2004, 12:24 PM

where is woodcraft? I work in waltham so it would not be too far out of the way.

backcast · 08-20-2004, 12:30 PM

313 Montvale Ave. Right off of Rt 93.

MikeTLive · 08-29-2004, 12:14 AM

Stopped off at B&N, looked at wood turning books.
I think I want to build a little shed to house my stuff.

I have heard it said that a Wise Man builds a shed over his best tool.

Went to HoDespot and found that they dont carry any turning tools! After putting woodworkers whorehouse out of business in the area they dont carry the gear anymore!!

Drove down to sears and bought the 6piece chisel set, face shield, and sandpaper.

In the set was the 1"skew and 1/4"gauge that I really wanted.
They had single 1/2" skew, and 3/4"gauge but at 18-25 bucks each tool I figured get the set and be done for now.

... heh.. the lathe is still in the box.
I need to find the shop vac and cleanup the spiders around my old workbench.

Then I am going to scrounge up some wood and cut it down to manageable blocks..
what size folks?
looks like maybe 1.5-2 x 8-10 for starts.

If the old drillpress is still around I will be set for a while.
NEed to see about a drill chuck for the GrizzlyMini lathe....

oh the madnes

afterhours · 08-29-2004, 08:09 AM

2"x 2" x 10" ayc is good and easy to work with. (of course it's really 1.5"x1.5"

)

MikeTLive · 08-29-2004, 09:25 AM

is that something easy to get around here?

afterhours · 08-29-2004, 01:27 PM

the only place i know of that has is dighton-rehobeth builders supply in attleboro.( or is it rehobeth-dighton b/s? )

MikeTLive · 09-03-2004, 10:06 PM

finally had time to open the grizzly lathe box.
attached the various handles and am starin at the lathe!!
gonna haul it into the basement tomorrow and see what it can do.

I was surprised there is no way to mount it to the worktable.
not even a bump or standoff that I can put a clamp on.