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		|  09-21-2004, 09:48 AM | #1 |  
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				reinstating the draft
			 
 i was listening to the news in school and outta school and i heard a bunch about the president reinstating the draft.. if they do how do i get out of getting chosen? its kinda creepy. |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:00 AM | #2 |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:14 AM | #3 |  
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				 | First off there is already a draft, in April.    
I don't think you have to worry, high school kids usually do not go too high   |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:18 AM | #4 |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:22 AM | #5 |  
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				 | The president alone cannot call up the draft---he needs Congress to pass the  legislation. |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:32 AM | #6 |  
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				 | see its all comfusing (discombobulated for me..) okie dokie. |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:41 AM | #7 |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:45 AM | #8 |  
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				 | I may be mistaken, but I do not believe women are eligible for the draft!   Seeing as how the last time there was a draft women were not eligible......if there ever is a reinstatement of the draft, congress will have a decision to make!  |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:47 AM | #9 |  
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 The country is better off with an all-volunteer professional armed force. 
The draft would be instituted only if really needed.  Like, if N. Korea, Iran, Mexico, Canada, Bermuda, the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and Antarctica declared war on us.    |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:54 AM | #10 |  
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				 | Draft dodger aye? Just go to Canda....they love people like you up there    But i wouldnt worry about a draft what so ever |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:55 AM | #11 |  
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				 | Sounds like a Dem scare tactic to get the youngins to vote for Kerry    Oh crap, I cant say that anymore can I  |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 11:08 AM | #12 |  
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				 | katie dont fret ! by the time you would be called to duty this particular conflict should be in a better condition . in the last draft we also didnt have woman doing combat roles like we do today . still aint no woman tankers !keep studying and go to college then get a good job
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		|  09-21-2004, 11:45 AM | #13 |  
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		| Originally posted by BigFish I may be mistaken, but I do not believe women are eligible for the draft!
  Seeing as how the last time there was a draft women were not eligible......if there ever is a reinstatement of the draft, congress will have a decision to make!   |  
Women want equal rights....this is part of it, Can't take just the good parts gotta take it all. |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 05:57 PM | #14 |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 06:19 PM | #15 |  
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				 | Congress will never approve a new draft. If they did none of them would ever be reelected and they know it. |  
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		|  09-21-2004, 08:05 PM | #16 |  
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				 | The draft rumors are bunk. It's actually a democratic sponsored bill... 
Now Bush calling up a massive number of National Guard, that's another story    
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		|  09-21-2004, 09:16 PM | #17 |  
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				 | Now Bush calling up a massive number of National Guard, that's another story 
 The Guard has always been called up when needed....whats so new about that?
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		|  09-21-2004, 10:08 PM | #18 |  
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it wont happen. ifit does happen, like weewee said, something really really really bad happened...
 
plus like was said earlier,  draftees would make bad soldiers |  
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		|  09-22-2004, 07:19 AM | #19 |  
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				 | The Reserves and the National Guard EXIST  to augment our active forces.  At the start of the all-volunteer force in the 70's this was the plan.  All services have been training with the guard / reserve for a very long time.  There is no free ride, if you sign up for the guard / reserve thinking 1 weekend per month and 2 weeks a year is doable, get ready to go to Iraq.  Take sunscreen.
 I think everyone in the military would agree when I say that the draft will degrade our forces.  The quality of our troops would go down alot.
 
 
 
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		|  09-22-2004, 09:49 AM | #20 |  
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				 | i guess you could say that i am trying to dodge it.. but even if it does get reinstated which is most likely it  won't but what i'm sayin is that i do intend to goto college major in computer technology or web desgin,etc would college kids still be safe or not? |  
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		|  09-22-2004, 10:31 AM | #21 |  
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				 | college kids were not elgibale before dont i think. Katie....DONT go around saying you want to be a draft dodger. You will get destroyed by many people if you have that attitude.....Just some friendly advice. Thats a big dishonor to many people so keep that in mind. Dont be proud of that |  
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		|  09-22-2004, 10:59 AM | #22 |  
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		| Originally posted by Skip N college kids were not elgibale before dont i think. Katie....DONT go around saying you want to be a draft dodger. You will get destroyed by many people if you have that attitude.....Just some friendly advice. Thats a big dishonor to many people so keep that in mind. Dont be proud of that
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		|  09-22-2004, 11:11 AM | #23 |  
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				 | Please no hippie quotes!    That sounds all warm and fuzzy but without gettting into more heated debates its quite clear that sometimes war is neccesry. Sad but true....Just the reality of it |  
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		|  09-22-2004, 12:39 PM | #24 |  
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				 | i ain't goin to war for this cause, no friggin way.  call me a draft dodger, i could care less.  if i'm gonna die for something it will be for something i believe in. |  
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		|  09-22-2004, 07:28 PM | #25 |  
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 everybody likes to ride the GOV't TIT until payday comes LOL...anyone who avoids shouldnt be allowed in the USA again! |  
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		|  09-23-2004, 04:33 AM | #26 |  
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				 | i ain't goin to war for this cause, no friggin way. call me a draft dodger, i could care less. if i'm gonna die for something it will be for something i believe in 
Go hang out with your canadian and french friends....you'll fit right on with them.     Yea, its such a bad cause to remove a mad man who kills his own people.  |  
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		|  09-23-2004, 11:47 AM | #27 |  
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				 | Don't count on college deferrments if the draft comes back. They ended a few years before the draft did the last time    
Been there, done that. Luckily I don't have the University of Haiphong T-shirt. |  
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		|  09-23-2004, 12:44 PM | #28 |  
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				 | Must be nice to pick and choose what freedoms you are willing to fight for and when you are going to fight for them.
 The draft is not coming any time soon. If they ever were to implement the draft they should allow college students to finish the year they are in and then off they go! No more rich and priveleged deferments.
 
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		|  09-23-2004, 01:11 PM | #29 |  
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		| Originally posted by Skip N i ain't goin to war for this cause, no friggin way. call me a draft dodger, i could care less. if i'm gonna die for something it will be for something i believe in
 
 Go hang out with your canadian and french friends....you'll fit right on with them.
  Yea, its such a bad cause to remove a mad man who kills his own people.   |  then why don't you enlist if your such a patriot |  
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		|  09-23-2004, 01:12 PM | #30 |  
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				 | USA Today 9-23-04Kerry hints that draft could return if Bush Re-Elected
 
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 Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry raised the possibility Wednesday that a military draft could be reinstated if voters re-elact President Bush.
 At a forum with voters, Kerry said "If George Bush were to be re-elected given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, is it possible? I can't tell you."
 Pentagon officials have consistently said a draft is nether necessary nor desirable, since today's military is built on volunteer service and professionalism.
 There is a House proposal to bring back the draft, but it is a Democratic one.
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