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Old 09-23-2004, 04:17 PM   #1
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Question Proper Retrieve For A Surf Howdy?

Having never fished one and since I just ordered one from Joe Lyons, do any of you have some insight into the technique for using them properly? I am guessing you twitch them with a moderate retrieve speed?

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Old 09-23-2004, 04:21 PM   #2
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Get them to walk to dog and they are pissah.Short twitches and only real up the slack line. Kinda like twitch, twitch,maybe two turns of the real, twitch twitch, etc...There are a ton of ways to fish them though but this is what I have had best luck with.
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Old 09-23-2004, 04:36 PM   #3
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Thats what I thought.... thanks RR2!

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Old 09-23-2004, 04:51 PM   #4
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BF you could also ask Bernzy or BM,he has trashed more then a few
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Old 09-23-2004, 04:53 PM   #5
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I tried pm'ing a couple of folks but their boxes were full! Good idea though, maybe Bernzy or BM will instruct further.

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Old 09-23-2004, 05:01 PM   #6
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Add Flaptail to your list.
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Old 09-23-2004, 05:09 PM   #7
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Flaptail was the one with the full pm box!

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Old 09-23-2004, 06:36 PM   #8
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just reel the thing in and shut up

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Old 09-23-2004, 07:22 PM   #9
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Old 09-23-2004, 08:43 PM   #10
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just reel the thing in and shut up
but, do you reel in and THEN shut up, or do you first shut up and THEN reel. or is it both at same time ?
please elaborate .


They look & dance real nice even in a heavy current, cant wait to try them out .
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Old 09-23-2004, 08:46 PM   #11
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like a pencil popper!

you can work em subsurface too!! they walk the dog under the water if you hold the tip real low

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Old 09-23-2004, 08:57 PM   #12
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just reel the thing in and shut up
A M E N !! Try every conceivable thing you can. and when you figure out what works, just forget about it because it never will work again

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Old 09-24-2004, 05:42 AM   #13
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The best retreive is like RiverRat says just walk the dog. ZIG-ZAG, ZiG-Zag. I found the prefect combo for them was an 8 foot medium action St. Croix Tidemaster conventional trigger stick and a Shimano GT-100 Conventional reel. I loaded the reel with Stealth 30 pound braid and using a ball bearing swivel with a 3 foot hunk of 40 lb. Fluorocarbon and a breakaway 50 pound clip. Don't listen to BASSMASTER! All he caught on them was bluefish and that is not a good test of what this plug can do. I have taken near a 100 bass this past two weeks on that plug and some of them were very large. ( Ask the guy who owns the Orvis Shop in Mashpee he was a witness) It has even outfished my beloved Beachmaster Dannys. My friend George, who fished with me this week, and is a vetran Elizabeth Islands fisherman, a doctor at Falmouth Hospital, and a surface plug nut, ordered 6 from Joe Lyons the day after our trip to the islands after seeing what that plug can do. I give it the Plug of the year award!

Why even try.........
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Old 09-24-2004, 08:21 AM   #14
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If you fish the Howdy with your rod tip down with short twitches on the retrieve it will dart for ya too - but I mostly fish it topwater walking it back and forth and like Flap said, it works real well - walking the blurple crackleback was working on bass at false dawn a coupla mornings ago -

As of yesterday, Bernzy is here in RI for a little fishing R&R -

I'll probably hear from him in the next few days - I don't know if he's near a computer yet but I'll pass this along to him -

"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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Old 09-24-2004, 10:03 AM   #15
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Thanks guys!

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shut up flap all u get is blue fish

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Could someone kindly post info for ordering from Joe Lyons.

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Old 09-25-2004, 07:09 AM   #18
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The plug works great there are many ways to work it and You can bend the eye horizontal to tune the lure to do other pop diving actions.
I work mine with alot of commotion like a pencil and then I will work it with short controlled jerks with a minute pause and then cycle through till I get fishon the lure.........
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Old 09-25-2004, 07:15 AM   #19
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Could someone kindly post info for ordering from Joe Lyons.

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Old 09-25-2004, 12:29 PM   #20
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Order them quick.

Joe has got a beautiful tackle stash better than most shops........

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BM, first, you need all the beauty sleep you can get, second, as Bubbas, I called you first because the fish are at you know where and fianally I had a really good night in the surf after God knows how long. Felt ggodd to be standin' in the whitewater with a screamin' drag. They are on the beach again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :



Oh yeah, you still only caught bluefish with your Howdy!!!!!!!

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steve i just got in

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Fish ARE here, last night was PISSAH, ALL on wood too johnny
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