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10-19-2004, 12:57 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
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Tying mono to spool
What knot do you guys use? Curious.
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10-19-2004, 01:06 PM
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uni-knot
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10-19-2004, 01:10 PM
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uni-knot
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10-19-2004, 01:15 PM
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Stuck In Reality
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Holden MA
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Uni and hope that the line never gets down that far.
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Go Ugly Early
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10-20-2004, 07:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Lincoln, RI
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I tie a bimini twist, then tie on the doubled line with an orvis knot. If I get spooled, I don't want that knot to be the weakest link.
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Best regards,
Roger
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10-20-2004, 07:54 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
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UNI KNOT RULES!! EASY TO TIE -HIGH BREAKING STRENGHT
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10-20-2004, 08:04 AM
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Boston Anglah
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sitting on top of the world with my legs hangin free
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uni-knot it retains 90% breaking strain, not bad for an easy knot you can do in the dark....IMO
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Used hard and put away dirty....
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10-20-2004, 08:08 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
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i do some overhand knots. if a fish ever gets me down to the knot, it doesn't matter what i used. she is getting away.
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- a wise man.
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10-20-2004, 08:10 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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I use a surgeons knot, which is an square knot with three hitches instead of 2... I have never gotten that far down on my spool... yet....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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10-20-2004, 08:44 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
if a fish ever gets me down to the knot, it doesn't matter what i used
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 you got that right -
You gotta watch that spool closely when the core is exposed.....what you want to do is grab the spool with your hand while there's still a few wraps of line around it and put the breaks on manually. You don't want to rely on that knot to not get spooled. It's not meant for security, just a means of attaching the line... unless of course you're one of those heroes who just wants it to happen to say it happened....
"HEY, I GOT SPOOLED LAST NIGHT!!!" ..... 
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10-20-2004, 09:45 AM
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Location: Warwick RI,02889
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Dave ==Don,t tie it ---------if the fish ever strips enough line to get to the spool //your #$$%^& knot isn,t going to stop the [[[FISh]]]] 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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10-20-2004, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
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I just use a regular arbor knot and pray
-spence
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10-20-2004, 09:50 AM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Quote:
Originally posted by Clammer
Dave ==Don,t tie it ---------if the fish ever strips enough line to get to the spool //your #$$%^& knot isn,t going to stop the [[[FISh]]]]
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LOL, Mike. I never get that lucky anyway.
I was just curious. Thanks.
Clammer, ever have a $^%&$# Bluefish spool ya? 
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10-20-2004, 10:08 AM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
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I use a plain old fashioned square knot...any knot will do.
Anyone, and I mean anyone that claims to have gone all the way down to the knot and not been broken off is peddling BS.
I beleive you could get a fish back if there were afew wraps left, but all the way to the knot would have the knot bearing thousands of pounds of pressure...no knot or line could withtqand that much pressure.
I figure if a fish gets me to the knot, it deserves to live
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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10-20-2004, 10:23 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Warwick RI,02889
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How the @#$% would I know - when I,ve gotten spooled //the fish didn,t come back to say good-bye 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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10-20-2004, 10:32 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Lincoln, RI
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I never really understood the logic of tying a poor knot instead of a good knot at the arbor because: a) the fish is going to get away anyway (seems fatalistic), b) you’ll never get spooled (seems pessimistic), c) you should watch the spool and manually apply the brakes when down to a few wraps (not needed if you tied a good knot to begin with, plus it’s tough to do at night, while moving the boat away from lobster pots, etc.)
So say I’m using 150 yds of 15# line with the drag at 4#. I hook the fish of a lifetime that spools me. By the time I’m at the end of the line, the drag is maybe 7.5# and the line has stretched 10% of the maximum 25%. If I tied a 50% knot, I’ll lose the fish and all my line.
If I tied a 95% knot (which is just as easy as tying a 50% knot) at the arbor with maybe a 90% knot at the lure (due wear, etc). I’d have maybe another 10% of stretch (45 feet) and 6# of pressure to apply before the line breaks. I think that significantly increases my odds of landing that fish.
And, if the line does break anyway, it will likely break at the lure. I’d be able to keep fishing and there won’t be 150 yds of line polluting the water.
FWIW, most good fishing knots are only about 50% when tied to a large arbor like a spinning reel, that’s why it’s a good idea to tie using the doubled line of a loop.
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Best regards,
Roger
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10-20-2004, 11:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: MA - Ol' New England - USA
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Downside any 'large" knot is it can interfer w/ the line winding on evenly. Small the better it seems.
I do a two loop surgeons at the end of a std arbor knot.
I have never had the luxury of being spooled and if you are using braid you have whimpy mono back there any way so it won't matter what you tie.
Reality is If you are down to the knot on ya spool you will never be able to get it wound on again since it will keep on slipping around and around.....LOL.
I typically do 25% for spinning gear, but talking to some CA outfitting tuna guys they do 50%! Hurt the fish fast and hard before it has time to recover makes for better release as well.
I have a feeling its going to be a LONG winter. 
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