Charlie Weis

[Raider Ronnie]

Will the Pats miss his if he gets the Notre Dame job ?
I think losing Romeo Crennel would hurt more

[fishaholic18]

Yes, he will be missed.
Good for him though.

[Slipknot]

He won't be going to ND

[afterhours]

i don't think he'd settle for a college job.

[Vectorfisher]

What are you kidding 1.5 - 2 million verse the measly 500K he gets now. If he doesnt get offered a head coaching job by an NFL team why wouldn't he take ND job

[afterhours]

gonna be a lot of nfl jobs opening up. he'll get one after patriots win ANOTHER super bowl

[Raider Ronnie]

according to ESPN,
It sounds like it's a done deal and a press conference will be on monday!!!

[ccrods]

Bye Charlie! Done deal on the wire!

[Vectorfisher]

Turmoil in Patsieville look out!

[afterhours]

no big deal. the machine will roll on!

[Vectorfisher]

I hope he prospers in his new position, it will be a huge task to turn around there football program.

[tynan19]

6 year 12 million deal.

[Squid kids Dad]

Dont want to see him go..But good luck to him..He deserves it..I doubt he will take the ND job...He deserves a pro job...And if he does take it the word is he will finish the year with the Pats which could end the 1st of Feb...lol..Either way the PATS WILL CONTINUE!!!!!!

[Roseneath]

What the hell is Weis thinking

He's going to a great storied franchise, but in today's college football, ND isn't what it once was... not with USC, Maimi, Florida and other warm weather schools (with girls-in-half-shirts).

I wonder if he "took the pulse" of NFL teams and realized he might not get a Head Coaching job. Its all I can think of

But still, to leave NE for a going-no-where program. WHY?

[fishaholic18]

Say it isn't so!!!!!!

[Vectorfisher]

He wants to be like a Parcells, etc The hero who takes a program from zero's to hero's, like I said in my earlier post he has one tall order there. If he makes it work he's a hero if he doesn't big ole ZERO back to the drawing board for ND.

[Mike P]

Notre Dame can't get the recruits anymore. Kids in HS see 5 or 6 Miami players taken in the first round every year, whereas there might be two ND players taken in the entire draft. Notre Dame used to be successful because they had a national fan base, and could recruit all over the nation. Now, other teams recruit nationally. In Texas they compete with all of the big-time Texas programs, plus Oklahoma and OSU. In Florida, they compete with the 3 big teams and now with South Florida going to the Big East, they'll step into the recruiting picture too. They can't out-recruit USC, UCLA, Cal, or even Arizona State in California, and even Utah is now getting into the picture on the west coast recruiting scene. They're getting 3rd rate recruits now. Even in the Northeast, which used to be prime ND trurf, the Big 10 teams like Michigan, Ohio State and Wisconsin are recruiting heavily.

Then you have tough admissions and academic standards to deal with, on top of everything else.

Weis made a huge mistake, IMO

[Ed B]

I believe your second paragraph says it all Mike P. ND has to look the other way on admissions standards if they want to compete in football. It's the sad but true reality of what NCAA Div 1 sports has become and there's a lot of sad stories out there.

A top school like Duke can field a basketball team with guys who can read and write because it's only a dozen scholarships. But when you get to the lower level teams the're loaded with a lot of guys who struggle to meet admissions standards.

Now if you have to field a whole football team with kids who are told from the time they were 14 that they are big time players, You will be hard pressed to find guys who could cut it at ND and actually had the same sense of commitment in the classroom that they had on the gridiron.

[ccrods]

Take a look at the Ivy League with no athletic scholarships and then the academic index which athletes have to be within the points of fellow students academically. That is the mos rigorous combination for student athletes. Harvard University 1989 Division 1 NCAA Champions. Harvard this season has beat four nationally ranked teams already this year. It is really sad when the college athletic programs are nothing but farm systems for the pros.

[Mike P]

There are schools with tough admissions and academic standards that compete successfully in Div I-A football. You just have to make a realistic appraisal of what "success" means.

Air Force has done it for years. So has BYU. BC doesn't get to a bowl game every year, but they do often enough. You define "success" as an 8-3 season and a bowl game on New Years' Eve or New Years' Day, it can be done. Navy's had two winning seasons, and two bowl appearances, back to back. ND has to give up this pipe dream of going 11-0 or 10-1 and playing in the National Title game every year.

One other edge ND used to have in the recruiting game is also gone forever---visibility. They were once the only team you could see on TV every week. With cable, teams like Michigan, USC, Oklahoma and all the other big time programs are on TV 6-7 times a year.

[Cod Hunter]

Originally posted by Slipknot
He won't be going to ND

Going, going, going...

Good luck with Notre Dame Charlie. Thanks for 36 and 38!

[Slipknot]

oh well

[rwilhelm]

Sad to see him go but it was bound to happen sooner or later. This is kind of bitter sweet for me because I am a big ND fan also. I think this should help ND get some of the better offensive players again because of what he will bring to the offense scheme.