People Who Mis-Handle Fish! - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 10-08-2005, 12:06 AM

Just watching some clown named Tred Barta on OLN Television...striper fishing on a boat catching large and tossing them back in the water like sacks of garbage! Tossing them over the side without care or concern for the well being of the fish!!!!

People like this jacka$$ should not have television shows yet I see so many who do release fish in the same, uncaring manner....flipping them, ch#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g them, throwing them...what ever you want to call it they are not taking the time to properly revive the fish and anyone who treats fish like this should be fish slapped within an inch of their life!!!

beamie · 10-08-2005, 02:17 AM

BF, agreed people like that are a Jacka$$ but as far as the fish goes, I think they are much tougher than you think.

afterhours · 10-08-2005, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by beamie

BF, agreed people like that are a Jacka$$ but as far as the fish goes, I think they are much tougher than you think.

i've spent a lot of time revieving larger bass, smaller ones ones seem tougher to me. i believe in fighting fish fast and hard.

tynan19 · 10-08-2005, 07:52 AM

That guy is an animal and a little on the crazy side.

Goose · 10-08-2005, 08:26 AM

surprized that dude ain't arrowing fish

bleed'um at the same time

Backbeach Jake · 10-08-2005, 08:53 AM

I've seen his show once, all I learned was that I'd never fish with him...

basswipe · 10-08-2005, 08:59 AM

I released all my fish lastnight with tender loving care

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BigFish · 10-08-2005, 09:52 AM

Basswipe...you are a good and caring fisherman...may you catch and land and release many more my friend!

basswipe · 10-08-2005, 10:10 AM

I've seen enough floaters in my time.Nothing worse than seeing an 18" bass float by in the current.

piemma · 10-08-2005, 10:13 AM

So I haven't posted in a couple of weeks but this topic got me.
I had an incident last year in So Co where I was down the beach from this guy who was catching schoolies and KICKING them back in the water. Ever see this? It Pi$$es me off to no end. Let me try to understand this. You have no problem, casting, hooking and dragging a fish up on the beach. You use your pliers to unhook the fish but then you KICK the fish down the beach to the water. What? Are you afraid to gently pick the fish up and release it in a humane manner? Anyway, we had words and ended up leaving before I go myself in serious trouble with this f&^%^$# idiot.
I am curious as to whether it's just me or what.

BigFish · 10-08-2005, 01:09 PM

Its not just you Piemma...when I see a "kicker"...I want to kick them...HARD!

basswipe · 10-08-2005, 01:12 PM

Its amazing to think that someone could so stupid as to think that kicking a fish wouldn't hurt it.

Roger · 10-08-2005, 04:43 PM

A couple years ago I was in a boat close to the beach. A guy hooked a schoolie and dragged it about 100 feet up the sand. Then he stepped on it to pull the hook out and finished by kicking it back into the water. It really pizzed me off

, but while I was close enough to see, I was too far to make comments.

Maloney · 10-08-2005, 04:54 PM

Terrrible Tred is his own version of "New York Grisley Adams".

riverrat55 · 10-08-2005, 05:01 PM

Tred Barta also writes a column for one of the fishing mags!!!
When I saw how this guy fished, I could tell he was an a""!!!
This guy reminds me of how a guy would be fishing on steroids!!!

JoeP · 10-08-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma

So I haven't posted in a couple of weeks but this topic got me.
I had an incident last year in So Co where I was down the beach from this guy who was catching schoolies and KICKING them back in the water. Ever see this? It Pi$$es me off to no end. Let me try to understand this. You have no problem, casting, hooking and dragging a fish up on the beach. You use your pliers to unhook the fish but then you KICK the fish down the beach to the water. What? Are you afraid to gently pick the fish up and release it in a humane manner? Anyway, we had words and ended up leaving before I go myself in serious trouble with this f&^%^$# idiot.
I am curious as to whether it's just me or what.

It seems I see this more often in the fall when there are tons of small fish on the beach. It burns me to no end. Last year I approached a guy on East Beach doing that and gave him my 2 cents and he just ignored me.

JoeP · 10-08-2005, 07:36 PM

I even hate it when guys do this to Bluefish...

Vogt · 10-08-2005, 07:43 PM

It doesnt matter what it is! Last week I was fishing tin and got a bunch of sea robins. I released them with the same care as I would bass.

Hooper · 10-08-2005, 08:07 PM

IMHO, that guy is a first class idiot.

This moron wrote an article in Sport Fishing magazine recently about a canyon trip he went on, alone. But get this, it was after he struck and killed a large racoon with his truck while driving to the boat. He get out of his truck, picks up the nearly dead racoon, gets bitten and then says, ah, what the hell, I'll head to the canyons for the day

WTF???

Upon returning to the dock, his wife or girlfriend or whatever they were at the time, takes one look at the bite and drives him to the ER, which is where he should have gone 18 hours earlier...

In another article he writes about how he loves his new 33' Hydra Sports CC with a couple huge outboards, so he can cruise to the canyons in the pitch black at 36 knots

He's lucky he hasn't killed anyone pulling that stunt.

Common sense and good judgement are two things any skipper should never be without. He's an arrogant jerk.

jimmyCT · 10-08-2005, 10:17 PM

some fish do better when dropped head first into the water, from 2-4ft, and it what a lot of offshore fishermen do. Done alot with the tunas. I personally dont think its that bad if this is what he did but didnt see the show.

Big part of getting fish back into the water with high survival chance is getting them back in quick. Ive nudged a few in with my feet but never kicked them, this only if they are not lively enough to not need resuscitation. I dunno.

The whole canyon thing he did was quite controversial, no one goes out there alone. Anyone could. Its just a matter of safety. One of the best tuna fishermen in the world died last year while fishing alone off new jersey while landing medium sized tuna. They found his body connected to the fish days after he was supposed to return home. It shows it can happen to anyone.

SeaWolf · 10-09-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by piemma

So I haven't posted in a couple of weeks but this topic got me.
I had an incident last year in So Co where I was down the beach from this guy who was catching schoolies and KICKING them back in the water. Ever see this? It Pi$$es me off to no end. Let me try to understand this. You have no problem, casting, hooking and dragging a fish up on the beach. You use your pliers to unhook the fish but then you KICK the fish down the beach to the water. What? Are you afraid to gently pick the fish up and release it in a humane manner? Anyway, we had words and ended up leaving before I go myself in serious trouble with this f&^%^$# idiot.
I am curious as to whether it's just me or what.

going on what piemma, and a couple others have said, i have seen "fishermen" catch a school striped bass on the beach, drag it up the sand about 15', step on it, and try to remove 1 or 2 sets of hooks in the fish, and then kick it back into the water. first question, why are you throwing a lure w/ 3 sets of trebles at a school of fish you know is all under 10#'s? next, why are you dragging the fish up the sand? put some rain gear/waders on and get wet or else be prepared to hear a mouthful. and third, kick a fish back in the water because you are too lazy to put some effort into reviving it or at least putting it in deep enough water for it to swim back into the surf. i have then seen these same anglers watch as that fish washes back up on the beach next to them while they continue casting. or, they kick it again back into the surf. i have started nicely into caring for those fish treated like that and have more than once approached the "angler" to tell them to care for the fish if they choose to fish here. i see it every year.

let's go further. how many will catch a bluefish and step on it, rip the hooks out of their mouths, or kick it back in the surf only because it is a bluefish or because it has teeth? that's plain poor judgement. it's very easy to grab a blue behind the head above the gills and remove the hooks nicely. i've also seen these same anglers step on a blue or even a bass w/ korkers on. why?

too many fishermen cant wait to make that next cast and worry little about caring for the fish at hand first.

bart · 10-09-2005, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeP

It seems I see this more often in the fall when there are tons of small fish on the beach. It burns me to no end. Last year I approached a guy on East Beach doing that and gave him my 2 cents and he just ignored me.

east beach seems to be the worst for "kickers"

piemma · 10-09-2005, 10:05 AM

Interesting in that I have seen the "kickers" at the Fire Beach, Weakapaug. Must be something about that area that draws the "kickers".

tlapinski · 10-09-2005, 11:50 AM

Speaking of mis-handling fish, remember posting this JimmyCT?

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Originally Posted by jimmyCT

So after about 10 casts I pull in another small fish, maybe 34". Rather than walking in to shore, putting a foot on it, like I normally do with lures with 3 sets of hooks…. I decided to try to save time and pop it loose in the water. So I grabbed the lure, then used it so that I could pick the fish up and start working on getting the hooks free. Right then the fish flips and one of the trebles went through a small section of skin on my hand. The fish flips free of my grip and then starts digging down in the water.. with my arm attached.. It hurt a little bit but I guess it could have been worse.
-Jim

JoeP · 10-09-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaWolf

going on what piemma, and a couple others have said, i have seen "fishermen" catch a school striped bass on the beach, drag it up the sand about 15', step on it, and try to remove 1 or 2 sets of hooks in the fish, and then kick it back into the water. first question, why are you throwing a lure w/ 3 sets of trebles at a school of fish you know is all under 10#'s? next, why are you dragging the fish up the sand? put some rain gear/waders on and get wet or else be prepared to hear a mouthful. and third, kick a fish back in the water because you are too lazy to put some effort into reviving it or at least putting it in deep enough water for it to swim back into the surf. i have then seen these same anglers watch as that fish washes back up on the beach next to them while they continue casting. or, they kick it again back into the surf. i have started nicely into caring for those fish treated like that and have more than once approached the "angler" to tell them to care for the fish if they choose to fish here. i see it every year.

Even worse, last year I saw some idiot, wearing waders, catching schoolies while standing in the surf, back out of the water to unhook the fish while pinning it under his foot, kick the fish in all the way back down the beach, then get back in the water & repeat. This is the idiot I approached and then didn't push it.

kippy · 10-09-2005, 12:03 PM

I would tear that guy a new one if I saw that. Those people are not fisherman..just a-holes!

Bass Babe · 10-09-2005, 10:36 PM

For some reason, whenever I'm out fishing, I don't usually see anybody else catching fish (besides RRC).

RIROCKHOUND · 10-10-2005, 10:53 AM

SeaWolf;
Maybe I'm biased since I grew up catching bluefish in the harbor (when we had big pogies) and offshore of newport during the lean years of bass fishing, but handling bluefish isnt rocket science... grab em firmly behind the head, if its a decent fish I'll pin its tail under my arm and unhook with my left hand...

As far as schoolies being mis-handled; there is a reason I dont fish or support fishing certain spots, especially where you have to haul a schoolie straight up 10ft then drop it back into the water... most soco people know the spot I'm thinking of you can roll out of your car walk 2ft and cast....