OTW - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

tattoobob · 10-20-2005, 04:52 PM

I was on my way home from So. Co. last night and around
11pm I am just coming off rt. 4 going onto 95n I am getting
tailgated really bad, I was doing 80 mph and next thing you
know the guy passes me on the right so I give a quick look
and it is a red Toyota pu and on the side says On The Water
to guys in it and 2 rods in the back. this guy was weaving all
over the highway. watch out Rhody OTW is invading

cheferson · 10-20-2005, 04:55 PM

Yeah i seen em in gansett last night, youd never guess who they were fishing with

cheferson · 10-20-2005, 05:01 PM

looks like they are gonna do a show on south county

tattoobob · 10-20-2005, 05:07 PM

That's all we need, stick to boat fishing OTW

JohnR · 10-20-2005, 05:14 PM

Yep - I heard, disappointing really.

TheRattBoy · 10-20-2005, 05:24 PM

That sucks BIGTIME

Nebe · 10-20-2005, 05:34 PM

gone fishin · 10-20-2005, 06:05 PM

Oh No more X's and fish here ???

Pete_G · 10-20-2005, 06:20 PM

Not to diminish just how wrong it would be to do a show on a specific area, I was doing a little looking back on the season today and thinking about "spots" and fishing in general.

Several of my biggest fish this year have come from spots where either the old guard forgot about them or maybe they weren't fishing them right in the first place. Quality fish, nevermind the ones I lost.

And I never saw anybody else out there. Another came from a spot where fish over 30#'s supposedly aren't caught at night.

For that matter, the biggest shore caught bass weighed in for the Newport County Fishing CLub so far this year was caught by someone who has only been fishing the Newport area for 3 or 4 years. He was in a spot at a time when no one really expected it. (Except DZ) Hindsight being 20/20, where that fish (and many others like it during that week) were caught made perfect sense, it was just over looked.

Put a wetsuit on for the first time and re-approach familiar waters. Throw some unconventional plugs at the so called "wrong" times. Knock on someone's door and try and be charming and get yourself some private access. Bottom line, think outside the box and discover or re-discover spots. And then don't tell anybody. To some degree all spots are known as are the best ways to fish them, but you can still find some "new" spots or at least some well hidden ones if you try.

Tattoo · 10-20-2005, 06:47 PM

"For that matter, the biggest shore caught bass weighed in for the Newport County Fishing CLub so far this year was caught by someone who has only been fishing the Newport area for 3 or 4 years. He was in a spot at a time when no one really expected it. (Except DZ) Hindsight being 20/20, where that fish (and many others like it during that week) were caught made perfect sense, it was just over looked"

God that was a good run of fish!

Nebe · 10-20-2005, 07:00 PM

sure was

bart · 10-20-2005, 07:03 PM

saw em too. sensitive spot

Mike P · 10-20-2005, 08:18 PM

They're fishing sensitive spots in Rhody with an OTW logo on the side of their truck?

What's the over/under on a tire slashing or their valve stems disappearing?

Moses · 10-20-2005, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheferson

Yeah i seen em in gansett last night, youd never guess who they were fishing with

Yup, that should really make the natives restless.....

kippy · 10-20-2005, 10:16 PM

Yep, there was a fisherman article on the Q this week, of all sensitive places..

eelman · 10-21-2005, 12:32 AM

Is Steve is in trouble again?

Here we go another internet bash session....................

Fish_Eye · 10-21-2005, 01:06 AM

Guys,

Here we go again, lots of condemnation for a show that hasn’t even aired yet. Does anyone know what the focus of the show was about? Was the theme, “Top secret spots of RI?”

Let’s hang them all now!

While we are at it, let’s make sure we get the whole staff from The Fisherman; they just blew the lid off Q…but then again over the past 20 years they seem to put “A Spotlight on Q” in about one or two articles a year. After we wack those guys, we can get those rotten tackle shop owners that just can’t keep their mouths shut. It’s like the bird flu, we’ll have to quarantine a lot of the area fishing clubs too…there’s a lot of spot burning taking place at those monthly meetings. From now on fishing reports should be censored by at least a few members from this board. Then when you turn to ProJo you’ll be reading, “There were some really big stripers caught in Narragansett Bay last week, especially near the shore. Anglers fishing from boats found them on the reefs, points, sand bars and breakwaters.” Have you seen the Seagull Charts? They have the guts to name names and even circle them in red. For that matter Goggle Earth should be banned. Imagine being able to see what the shoreline looks like up and down the striper coast. Hell, all charts, maps, satellite views and cave drawing should be destroyed.

Believe me, I understand why people are sensitive to having limited access areas labeled as this week’s must-fish location. IMHO finding striper hot spots is not rocket science. As an outdoor writer, photographer and video producer I try to pass on (in pretty generic ways) techniques on how people can find hot spots on their own.

I know that OTW is listening to its readers and they too are sensitive to this matter. They’ve received a lot of letters as a result of Steve’s article, and you might be surprised at the percentage breakdown for and against his tell all story. I’m sure they’ll be responding to a survey they’re conducting in an upcoming issue.

As far as the OTW shoot yesterday, I SUGGESTED IT and I’ll take all the heat for it.

First let me set the record straight and explain the storyline for the show.
Every shoot starts with a goal, an objective, a theme. I thought their audience (and every member of this board) would enjoy seeing a tribute segment to the surf angler…especially one the deviled into the hard-core world of night fishing. When is the last time you saw a surf fishing show, never mind one at night? How about a show that shares the intimate secrets of how to catch big fish on soft plastics? How about a show where the talent is someone who has perfected the technique to the point where he has given up fishing with live eels (something he had done for 33 years)? Soon we may not be able to fish with eels; I would think an alternative method would come in pretty handy.

The shoot took place at Beavertail State Park, an area where Arthur Clarke caught a 65-pound striper 69 years ago this October…it was the largest shore-caught striper for almost 36 years. He caught it on his patented eel bob rig. Why not fish those historic waters with a 21st century version of that rig?

Plenty of time was dedicated to showing the step-by-step rigging. Then the camera turned on Steve as he demonstrated how to fish the Slugo to its fullest potential. The wind was blowing from the SW and there was plenty of salt spray in the air. It was just before sunset and with the third oldest lighthouse in the US as a backdrop Steve and Chris Megan (Publisher of OTW) fished the rising tide. I shot the anglers from a water’s edge perspective you'll never see unless the camera is protected by an underwater housing. The setting was beautiful, but only a few fish hit the plastic, and only one was landed.

Under the cover of darkness we switched spots and then introduced the viewers to “The East Coast of Narragansett.” Not “F,” not “A,” not “X” marks the spot.

On a perfect night for fishing, there was very little catching. However the image of two savvy anglers working the suds under a cloudy sky with only a few brief peeks of the moon was spectacular. With the aid of high intensity underwater lights we were able to light up about a 20 foot stretch of shoreline and thus reveal the rugged world of rock hopping RI style…all without revealing where.

We burned a couple of hours with only one small fish. If you think a truck's high beams are bright you should have seen how much my HID lights lit up the surf. To a man, we all agreed that a light on the water turning off the bite was more myth than fact. Case in point, five minutes later Chris was into a nice fish. It was a great battle with lots of leaping from rock to rock, and a really cool finally when Chris coaxed the fish into a deep bowl. Chris jumped in up to his chest and I was able to get some unbelievable “half in the water – half out of the water” scenes. The underwater release of a near 20 pound fish was pretty darn dramatic.

Five minutes after our Hollywood lights on and in the water sequence, Steve was hooked up. I frantically worked at getting the salt off my lens in time to capture Steve struggling to keep a big fish out of the rocks. With perfect timing he brought the fish up to the top of a wave where he surfed it onto the rocks next to him. It’s great when a plan all comes together. The fish weighed 39.55 pounds and it made for the perfect ending to a perfect night of fishing. Hopefully when the show airs in January you’ll appreciate all the effort we put into creating a breathtakingly beautiful show that’s as informative as it is entertaining. I’m confident that you’ll also appreciate the fact that no specifics, other than how to get to Beavertail, were discussed.

Now stop worrying and go catch some cows…a 46 pound fish was also taken somewhere nearby but nobody is quite sure where

.

Mike

lurch · 10-21-2005, 02:00 AM

I have not seen a show dedicated to the surf angler. There was one show where a woman and a member of OTW staff were fishing at wasque point on MV it was one of the best shows I have ever seen!

Unfortunately I have been missing the OTW show because I have been out fishing and cannot wait for the new season specifically the show fish eye mentioned!

Some day I will get to RI to fish but dedicated time is needed which I do not have

I need to move to southern Ma.

MartinD18 · 10-21-2005, 04:52 AM

Tires slashed? That's it. You people have become pathetic. We all love it, but I have some news. IT'S JUST FISHING. Get a friggin life. So long forever, you losers.

Fish_Eye · 10-21-2005, 05:02 AM

Lurch,

I hear what you're saying about

Quote:

I have been missing the OTW show because I have been out fishing and cannot wait for the new season

It's time to be out there fishing NOW!

However, the shooting for the above mentioned show only took place two nights ago and won't air until January...the run might be over by then.

kippy · 10-21-2005, 05:32 AM

I'm sure the other fisherman didn't mind lights in the water..

Fish_Eye · 10-21-2005, 06:13 AM

kippy,

Give me a break, the whole point of what I was saying is that the lights just didn't make a bit of difference...not one bit. Besides, we weren't exactly covered up with other fisherman.

Fish_Eye · 10-21-2005, 06:24 AM

Is this the type of spot burning you expect?

Find the rock with the red "X" and cast towards the water.

Again, the entire shoot in this location was under the cover of darkness with no mention of how to get there, where to park. It just deals with how to catch cows on plastic -- a timely subject with eels likely to disappear.

spence · 10-21-2005, 06:31 AM

Problem is, fishermen gossip like 13 year old girls

Steve M. is damaged goods for a while. I doubt there's much he could do right in the eyes of some...

-spence

Fish_Eye · 10-21-2005, 06:48 AM

Spence,

You are so right about the gossiping, but if Steve is damaged goods (despite all the help he's offered to countless anglers over the years) , I'm surprised David Pickering and Tim Coleman are still alive after writing dozens of "where to" stories. Tim's weekly fishing column in CT is reason enough to hunt him down.

Charlie Soars only has to worry about the guys that fish in boats as he gives away spots like Sakonnet Point, Warren Point, Land's End and Quicks Hole, etc.

zacs · 10-21-2005, 07:13 AM

I have no problem with it. Sounds pretty cool to me.

_Z_

JFigliuolo · 10-21-2005, 07:15 AM

IF the shoot was as innocuous as fish eye says. I'm willing to give then the benefit of the doubt until it airs.

Flaptail · 10-21-2005, 07:43 AM

Do you people really think there is a spot on God's green earth in striperdom that hasn not been written about in the last 40 years? Most of you guys are rank amateurs, period. Grow up! Frtank daignault writes Striper Hot spots and people from this site are regurtlay seen on the SS.COM site still s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g up to him! And Like FishEYE said, Beavertail and one small fish. Mike P., slash tires? I thought you were above that %$%$%$%$, I respected you until that comment. JohnR. , "VERY DISAAPOINTING"? Soco SoHo, Boho who the %$%$%$%$ really cares and when that show airs for fifteen minutes on a Tuesday morning at 8:00am in February who will remember? Grow the %$%$%$%$ up, all of you. Most of you rookies can't keep your mouths shut anyway. "Charlie Soares gives up places like Sakonnet, Quickes etc.. First of all most of you couldn't hold Charlies bait bucket and secondly ever see a chart? Got half a %$%$%$%$ing brain? The Elizabeth Islands are top secret? I am ashamed of you guys, really, petty assed girls the whole %$%$%$%$ing lot.

Swimmer · 10-21-2005, 07:59 AM

Tattoobobs concern I believe as first mentioned was being tailgated by someone who after passing him at 80 plus m.p.h. was weaving, not driving staight. I think he felt his safety was in jeopardy. After the next post this thread was mugged big time. Used to be if your vehicle had commercial markings you drove in a sane manner. When its so easy to be i.d. (your name plastered in big letters on side of truck) one would think one would drive better. I think his mention of R.I. being invaded by OTW staff had to do more with the way whoever was driving was operating the truck.

Whatever happened to this thread after that is anyones guess.

eelman · 10-21-2005, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaptail

Do you people really think there is a spot on God's green earth in striperdom that hasn not been written about in the last 40 years? Most of you guys are rank amateurs, period. Grow up! Frtank daignault writes Striper Hot spots and people from this site are regurtlay seen on the SS.COM site still s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g up to him! And Like FishEYE said, Beavertail and one small fish. Mike P., slash tires? I thought you were above that %$%$%$%$, I respected you until that comment. JohnR. , "VERY DISAAPOINTING"? Soco SoHo, Boho who the %$%$%$%$ really cares and when that show airs for fifteen minutes on a Tuesday morning at 8:00am in February who will remember? Grow the %$%$%$%$ up, all of you. Most of you rookies can't keep your mouths shut anyway. "Charlie Soares gives up places like Sakonnet, Quickes etc.. First of all most of you couldn't hold Charlies bait bucket and secondly ever see a chart? Got half a %$%$%$%$ing brain? The Elizabeth Islands are top secret? I am ashamed of you guys, really, petty assed girls the whole %$%$%$%$ing lot.

Flaptail, as I read your post It helps to really see the light, your post above is one of the best I have seen and really says it all. I agree 100% with everything you say and really dont have much more to add exept to echo everything you said.