Airflow Forty Plus lines

[steelhead]

I'm planning on replacing my floating lines this winter. Anyone have any experience with thses lines?

[ronfish]

steelhead- I picked up a 9wt 40+ line last winter because of all the hype and I don't care for it. The head portion weighs in as a 11/12 wt which is too much for my 9 wt to handle. When tried on my 10 wt it still felt like I was casting a shooting head, but the weight was more manageable for me. The line really shoots well but the runnin g line is too thin to mend. I reminded me of using an spinning rod with the cast and retreive technique. If you'd like to buy mine I'll let it go for $30, I used it once and not for the entire night- after an hour I switched back to my SA saltwater line for its control. Ron

[Pete_G]

Airflo has a new cold saltwater floating line coming out this year with a braided core. I love braided core fly lines, so I'm very interested in this one as I really liked their previous floater which was mono core.

I carry the 40+ but I've never fished one; we didn't sell all that many either. Might even put them on clearance soon.

Striper/Cold Saltwater Line

[FishHawk]

Well for me I have to use a true 9wt line for my Winston rod. Rio told me that their Intermidate line was 375 grains . The manufactures are now doing the overlining for us. FishHawk

[ronfish]

Fishawk- At 375 grains the 9wt intermediate is almost a 12wt by conventional standards. Talk about overlining! I also read on another site that one might have to downsize if they are using a rod that is alittle slower than the newer fast rods. Ron

[Basser]

I may be incorrect, but the info I have indicates that Airflo was using a braided core last year as well in the saltwater floating lines. It is hard to tell from the specs but for 2006 they may be applying a somewhat stiffer outer coating to the new lines to avoid the summer "stickies" that the lines developed when stripped onto sunny boat decks. Great lines in the water, however. Their lines are urethane rather than PVC.

Can't wait for the sale on the 40+ lines! Any 6 wt floaters?

I also love the SA floaters for their mending capability, but if stranded with one line on an island I would have to go with the 40+ intermediate. The first few times I tried the line I set it aside myself, but I have learned to like the integrated shooting head feel for all around fishing.

FishHawk...you are in with a dangerous crowd here...especially that Steelhead fellow!

[FishHawk]

John I'll take my chances!! Glad to see you on board. FishHawk

[SAXATILUS]

John, the standard airflo cold saltwater floaters are excellent lines, real slick and they dont kink also since it is not pvc, so it is not affected by bug juice or sun screen. I use an 8,9 and 10 with my Stick and am very pleased with thier performance.

[steelhead]

Come on! I'm user friendly! Thanks for all your comments you guys. SAX, you got an 8 wgt. Stick? If so, what is your favorite weight for the rod? I like to be able to mend my lines back in the tidal flows. Sounds like the standard SW Airflo will work for that application. What about out on the beach in the waves and the wind?

[steelhead]

You go by another handle on another board?
Cheers,
Steelhead

[SAXATILUS]

Yes, 8wt stick and I love the 10 on it. I am told it will cast a 12 like a rocket and look forward to trying that this year. You cant go wrong with the airflo cold salt water, I cant find any negatives with the line in all fishing situations. I can also highly recomend thier multi-tip line, a floating running line with four interchangable 12' tips. A floater, int med sink and fast sink. It casts just like a full line and very versatile.

[Basser]

Steelhead, there is only one Basser. FishHawk knows

[Slinger]

This is just pure BS. Manufactures calling lines an 8 when they`re really a 10. Just so they can spout some PR about how shootable thier lines are. Any rod would cast like a cannon if you overline it by 2 sizes. Wake up man! Just another instance of playing the public for suckers!
Slinger

[Slinger]

Hey Joe Shmo just told me they were comming out with a 10 wt that would handle GBFT!!! Course you gotta put it on a 14 wt reel and you don`t get much backing, but it`ll throw a squid bar!
Slinger

[Bigcat]

I have had 2 airflow 7000 intermediate over the last 10 years and have been happy with them.

[SAXATILUS]

Originally Posted by Slinger

This is just pure BS. Manufactures calling lines an 8 when they`re really a 10. Just so they can spout some PR about how shootable thier lines are. Any rod would cast like a cannon if you overline it by 2 sizes. Wake up man! Just another instance of playing the public for suckers!
Slinger

I didn't know I was sleeping. Whats your point. Obviously I dont listen to the mfs or I would only throw an 8 wt line on my "8wt" rod. I dont consider it overlining anyway, alot of different size lines will work on any given rod. I have rods that seem not to handle higher line sizes as well as others. The Stick is no ordinary rod and was designed to throw different lines for different situations, not mainstream at all. And it casts like a cannon when you go up 4 line sizes. No suckers here. All lines should be listed by Grains anyways.

[steelhead]

Sax, I think that Slinger is saying basically the same thing that you're saying... The problem is that someone is either misrepresenting their product and/or they've lost touch with how savey their customers have become. Most of the "River Runs Thru It" guys have come and gone and the real flyfishermen remain. These guys are smart and can see thru the BS. I find it ironic that a rod (any manufacturer) listed as an eight may have a sweet spot two weights higher. Maybe the rod manufcturers should be bracketing with a range of line weights or a rating system using grains...

[Slinger]

This isn`t about any rod, but about a manufacturer that list the line as an 8 then puts 350 gr in the first 30 ft.
Slinger

[steelhead]

I think they're both guilty....

[STRIPERSTRIPPER]

I think lines such as the 40 plus lines are geared toward stiff fast action rocket launcher rods.they are not meant to be mended as in traditional fly casting,its out to the horizen casting or bust.I cast slow to medium action rods only, over line all of them with no problem.I do cast the 12 wt 40 plus with a CND atlantis 2 hander.

[Roger]

It's gotten so bad that I weigh my lines to find out the truth. Even lines from the same mfg have been off up to two line weights, but usually they are within 1 weight of specification.

[plugger26]

John the #12 wulff line on the eight weight stick is sweeter than sweet. You can try mine before you buy the airflo. I have never tried the airflo but if the running line is to thin then that is no good.
Joey

[STRIPERSTRIPPER]

I believe the airflo 40 plus lines are 37.5 ft. heads,the grain weight comes from the longer than standard 30 ft heads.

[steelhead]

Hey Joey! Good to see you here! I'll have ti try you set up out sometime!

[Basser]

The Airflo 40+ saltwater lines for single handers have a head length of 30 feet for the intermediate head and 29 feet for the sinking head.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Basser

The Airflo 40+ saltwater lines for single handers have a head length of 30 feet for the intermediate head and 29 feet for the sinking head.

It's really just an integrated shooting head. Folks might as well set up a real SH system to get more versatility. After all, it's much easier to swap a 30' head than change spools. It's also easier to carry a bunch of different densities in a leader wallet.

[Basser]

I find that changes other than flies when wade fishing are easier said than done, at least for me I rather just keep fishing. Part of the challenge is figuring out what I want to do the night before or the day before if night fishing.. If I am on a boat I bring multiple rods and reels for a quick change.

[STRIPERSTRIPPER]

Basser,thanks for catching my mistake,I was thinking of the rio outbound at 37.5 ft head,and the airflo two hander line is a 35 ft. head.

[Basser]

Thanks to Rio and Airflo for actually publishing the data