New rules for Striper Cup - Page 2 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Roger · 04-08-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow

I think its good to see thier only going to allow a club to enter their 10 heaviest fish.I think that alone helps out alot.

Fishermen are still going to weigh in their fish weekly anyway, for the weekly rod/reel combo. It does not change the number of fish entering at all unless you buy into OTWs fantasy that club members are in constant communication so that they can restrict their harvest. Personally I doubt that the folks at OTW even believe that, they just wrote it to sound good at first glance.

That rule only levels the playing field for large and small clubs since you only get to count the 10 largest.

PI guy · 04-08-2006, 03:50 PM

The masses have spoken, and for once they were listened to!

shadow · 04-08-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger

That is not a message of conservation. It says there are plenty of fish to the folks were not aware of the state of the fishery. There are so many that we’ll kill them, not for food, but for possible cash and prizes.”

tell me the state of the fishery,becuase I don't know about you but I'am not having a hard time finding fish of many sizes and year classes any time recentily and I fish 100% from shore if I had a boat I would see alot more fish for sure.don't get me wrong I don't want to see a blood bath.And that is way I was against the first set of rules.Imo they were set up for a blood bath.I really do believe the new rules are going in the right direction.Right now the striped bass biggest problems are a lack of forage that will effect them in a bigger way then a contest that ends in sept. which is also a good thing.like it or not millions of pounds of striper,is harvested every year you can't blame that on otw.

Saltheart · 04-08-2006, 04:48 PM

Sorry Roger , I can't agree. I think the changes will drastically reduce the number of fish weighed in. I also think that you have to be realistic. You are not going to stop the tournament and I think a lot of good was done to bring this one into a more conservation minded format. yes , we would like to see it catch and release like our own 4 leg tourney but honesty does not always prevail and the bigger the prizes , the more temptation to cheat. I think the new format is more than just acceptable. I think OTW responded very favorably in terms of preserving the fishery.

Slipknot · 04-08-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow

tell me the state of the fishery,becuase I don't know about you but I'am not having a hard time finding fish of many sizes and year classes any time recentily and I fish 100% from shore if I had a boat I would see alot more fish for sure.don't get me wrong I don't want to see a blood bath.And that is way I was against the first set of rules.Imo they were set up for a blood bath.I really do believe the new rules are going in the right direction.Right now the striped bass biggest problems are a lack of forage that will effect them in a bigger way then a contest that ends in sept. which is also a good thing.like it or not millions of pounds of striper,is harvested every year you can't blame that on otw.

I coudn't agree more with this statement.

shadow

you said a mouthful.

NIB · 04-08-2006, 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Sea Dangles]

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cool beans. my bad.

Whatever u like= whats the bet.

Sea Dangles · 04-08-2006, 07:09 PM

NIB,it would be great to get a decent amount of participation on the side action so I would suggest keeping it reasonable.Fish would have to be weighed under tournament rules.With enough people the prize could get substantial.I would recommend excluding commercial guys including charter captains.Less participation or mano y mano would dictate pot sweetening.

NIB · 04-08-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

NIB,it would be great to get a decent amount of participation on the side action so I would suggest keeping it reasonable.Fish would have to be weighed under tournament rules.With enough people the prize could get substantial.I would recommend excluding commercial guys including charter captains.Less participation or mano y mano would dictate pot sweetening.

Was thinkin more along the lines of mano E mano where the loser wheres a dress all day.Of course if i lost something would come up where as I probably couldn't make it.

spence · 04-08-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Was thinkin more along the lines of mano E mano where the loser wheres a dress all day.

What do I have to do to loose?

-spence

Bazza · 04-08-2006, 07:59 PM

I think it is great that OTW listned to concerned fishermen and changed the rules. I just fiinshed reading The Striped Bass Chronicles by Christopher Reiger, and much of it was about the sad state of striper fishing due to over fishing/harvesting. After having attended several functions at Harpon Brewery, I am looking forward to attending the end of the season Bash for the Striper Cup

Nebe · 04-08-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Was thinkin more along the lines of mano E mano where the loser wheres a dress all day.Of course if i lost something would come up where as I probably couldn't make it.

does that rule go back to last sept??

Sea Dangles · 04-08-2006, 08:40 PM

How about loser wears dress to Harpoon party.I'm in.

NIB · 04-08-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

does that rule go back to last sept??

Not sure what that means after sept of last yr i did not land any bigger than maybe a mid 20.Terrible fall for us after the 10 day nor-easter.Quality fish have always been harder to come by for me in the fall.There are some days when its good but if u ain't in it it's tough.

Flaptail · 04-08-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger

Fishermen are still going to weigh in their fish weekly anyway, for the weekly rod/reel combo. It does not change the number of fish entering at all unless you buy into OTWs fantasy that club members are in constant communication so that they can restrict their harvest. Personally I doubt that the folks at OTW even believe that, they just wrote it to sound good at first glance.

That rule only levels the playing field for large and small clubs since you only get to count the 10 largest.

Roger, do you know Chris, or Neal or Gene or anyone personally at OTW? I do and have for years, even years before OTW born and you are casting aspertions by speculation, the only fantasy here is in your little mind and the real tragedy is that others of your ilk will read your postings and actually believe them to be true. The guys are the mag have more scruples than you could ever hope to. I know your kind. Unless you know the truth you should keep your mouth shut because obviously you don't. In plain english your obviously an %$%$%$%$%$%$%$, I hope you see the truth in that.

NIB · 04-08-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

How about loser wears dress to Harpoon party.I'm in.

reading comprehension ain't ur thing is it.
Perhaps I am not clear.
Not sure thay make a dress in my size.
I deffintetly can't do heels.
My feet are jacked.

Mike P · 04-08-2006, 09:57 PM

Nib in a dress would kill your thirst real quick

NIB · 04-08-2006, 10:27 PM

Or perhaps ponder ur state of drunkeness.

JohnR · 04-09-2006, 07:58 AM

Flap - I've met Roger many times and he is not the a-hole as you mention but a decent and well intentioned individual that like you, cares about the fish and the sport. While I don't agree with his thinking on this topic (and think he is wrong) it looks like you just did the same thing you accuse him of doing...

Sea Dangles · 04-09-2006, 08:29 AM

Put up or shut up NIBman .I'm your huckleberry

NIB · 04-09-2006, 08:31 AM

Hey johnee,
How's that prayin for a friendly winter workin out for ya.
U doppelganger.

JohnR · 04-09-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Hey johnee,
How's that prayin for a friendly winter workin out for ya.
U doppelganger.

For the most part it has been pretty calm - my handsome twin from Joisey

Offshore · 04-09-2006, 09:01 AM

I agree with JohnR. I also give Chris Megan and his team at OTW a lot of credit. They spent a lot of money to promote a derby that a lot of folks found fault with. They "listened" to those of us who took the time to contact them and they acted to drastically revise the rules. Congratulations OTW.

NIB · 04-09-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Put up or shut up NIBman .I'm your huckleberry

So I say top five fish.
This way no one hit wonder wins..
Got to see how the weigh in station situation works out in NJ.
If anyone from OTW is Lookin on The Fishermans Den in the Belmar Marine Basin RT. 35s,Belmar NJ is one of the largest shops in the central NJ coast.U can contact them at 732-681-5005.ask for Tom P.
Tell him Tony the Tileman suggested ya.