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11-09-2006, 11:15 AM
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Van Staal service charge is still $36.95
Until further notice. The $50 price on the web is a misprint.
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11-09-2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete_G
Until further notice. The $50 price on the web is a misprint.
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WTH????? a misprint?!? what about return shipping? I'm gald it's still $36... but something besides my waders doesn't smell quite right.
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11-09-2006, 12:17 PM
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Wipe My Bottom
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11-09-2006, 12:38 PM
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Misprint, miscommunication, whatever. I just relay what I was told.
Since 10/1. Produce someone who has been charged $50 over the past month that this was supposed to be in effect and I'll believe it's a cover up or a retraction and not just a mistake.
Not saying it's impossible, just that I haven't heard of it.
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11-09-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete_G
Misprint, miscommunication, whatever. I just relay what I was told.
Since 10/1. Produce someone who has been charged $50 over the past month that this was supposed to be in effect and I'll believe it's a cover up or a retraction and not just a mistake.
Not saying it's impossible, just that I haven't heard of it.
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Maybe so. Just the way it's expressly noted on the website that the price will change effective 10/1 and it will not include return shipping seems odd to be a mistake. Maybe so, either way, I'm glad it's still $36. |
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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11-09-2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
Maybe so. Just the way it's expressly noted on the website that the price will change effective 10/1 and it will not include return shipping seems odd to be a mistake. Maybe so, either way, I'm glad it's still $36.
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Agreed. I think there was discussion about a price hike but it never came to pass. Someone forgot to tell the web guy though. |
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11-09-2006, 12:57 PM
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Wipe My Bottom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete_G
Misprint, miscommunication, whatever. I just relay what I was told.
Since 10/1. Produce someone who has been charged $50 over the past month that this was supposed to be in effect and I'll believe it's a cover up or a retraction and not just a mistake.
Not saying it's impossible, just that I haven't heard of it.
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That's what the policy said on the website last night before it was redacted. |
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11-09-2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassturbed
That's what the policy said on the website last night before it was redacted.
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I know. My point is that in the month that it was supposed to be in effect it hasn't been. |
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11-09-2006, 01:30 PM
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Online forums have never been a productive place to discuss Van Staal. Van Staal doesn't even bother for that exact reason.
If anyone has any additional questions or real concerns please email either Craig Cantelmo at ccantelmo@vanstaal.com or me at peterg@saltwateredge.com |
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11-09-2006, 07:33 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
WTH????? a misprint?!? what about return shipping? I'm gald it's still $36... but something besides my waders doesn't smell quite right.
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Turn the reel in for free at a show and you save the shipping costs. I turn mine in at River's End each spring and they give you a free hat too.  |
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11-09-2006, 11:27 PM
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Been many moons
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36 still. That would be great news.
Here is an excerpt from the email that Craig sent me today at 8 a.m.
"The Service Charge is now $50.00 to do the service that takes 2.5 hours a reel and is more then just an oil change. We disassemble the entire reel degrease the parts, inspect and change parts required, add the oil and lube, change all of the seals to prepare the reel for another season of fishing."
I'm confused....
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Standing on the water, casting your bread
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Distant ships sailing into the mist
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11-10-2006, 12:18 AM
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Go ahead and flame me, but there are now 2 threads full of conspiracy theory's, depreciation tables, and bitching about a $14 increase in the service charge on a $700 reel. This from a bunch of people that each probably have $2000 worth of custom wood plugs hangin around the house. Give me a break.
It's not even winter yet.
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11-10-2006, 12:43 AM
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Been many moons
Join Date: Oct 2006
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You forgot....
Waders- $220 + tax
Custom tied rod- $400 + tax
Van Staal pliers- $317 + tax
Surf bag- $140 + tax
Insert Mastercard "priceless" line here.
A surfcaster could have $2000 worth of gear on during an outing.
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Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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11-10-2006, 12:49 AM
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As the Big O says on WEEI - "You're makin' my point"
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11-10-2006, 06:35 AM
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There is a difference from $14 and being made a fool
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11-10-2006, 07:38 AM
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Wipe My Bottom
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the price of everything is going up.
+health care
+energy (although down from peak levels)
+higher education
+and now I'm hearing agricultural grain prices will shoot up in the next few years because there isn't enough grain to feed the world and provide alternative fuel (ethanol) ... and droughts in producing countries.
so we have to work harder to make more money just so we can keep up with our bills?
so, as consumers, why not hold the line on something as petty as a $50 service fee?
just because you plunk down $700 for a fishing reel, doesn't mean you have to piss all your money away.
every little bit helps.
-stingy bassturbed (rhymes with bassturd)
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11-10-2006, 07:58 AM
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Pete G wrong NEVER must have been a mistake or a missprint or something. It is what it is or was till changed.I think he was right in saying(Online forums have never been a productive place to discuss Van Staal) unless you think they are over pricing the yearly charge and shipping then they just might read the posts and change it back!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-10-2006, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GBOUTDOORS
Pete G wrong NEVER must have been a mistake or a missprint or something. It is what it is or was till changed.I think he was right in saying(Online forums have never been a productive place to discuss Van Staal) unless you think they are over pricing the yearly charge and shipping then they just might read the posts and change it back!!!!!!!!!!!
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There were questions on the boards, I contacted Van Staal for clarification, I posted here.
You've always had it out for me for no apparent reason GB, and I don't even know who you are. |
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11-10-2006, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefLinesider
36 still. That would be great news.
Here is an excerpt from the email that Craig sent me today at 8 a.m.
"The Service Charge is now $50.00 to do the service that takes 2.5 hours a reel and is more then just an oil change. We disassemble the entire reel degrease the parts, inspect and change parts required, add the oil and lube, change all of the seals to prepare the reel for another season of fishing."
I'm confused....
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What I don't get is that why does a reel that is supposedly waterproof need to have parts changed every year? My Penn 704 is over 35 years old. I do the maintenance on it myself and I've never needed to change a part. |
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11-10-2006, 09:15 AM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by gadabout
What I don't get is that why does a reel that is supposedly waterproof need to have parts changed every year? My Penn 704 is over 35 years old. I do the maintenance on it myself and I've never needed to change a part.
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Gadabout...
not questioning your 704 good solid reel, BUT it needs maintenance.....
... put in 100nights a year fishing hard, wet, swimming, dropping your reel, plus work, have a wife etc.. and spending a few hours a week breaking down a reel isnt really doable...
4 seasons fishing my VS250 like that and I have had 1 minor problem...
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-10-2006, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete_G
There were questions on the boards, I contacted Van Staal for clarification, I posted here.
You've always had it out for me for no apparent reason GB, and I don't even know who you are.
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well, you do seem to be going out of your way to defend van staal when they should be doing that themselves...particularly when they are trying to sneak through a price increase.
i understand you are a retailer but come on. |
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11-10-2006, 11:46 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadabout
What I don't get is that why does a reel that is supposedly waterproof need to have parts changed every year? My Penn 704 is over 35 years old. I do the maintenance on it myself and I've never needed to change a part.
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You could just as easily ask why it takes 2-1/2 hours to do the service on a reel that's almost as simple a design  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-10-2006, 12:02 PM
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Been many moons
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Someone needs to get Dr. Phil in here.  |
Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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11-10-2006, 12:03 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gadabout
What I don't get is that why does a reel that is supposedly waterproof need to have parts changed every year? My Penn 704 is over 35 years old. I do the maintenance on it myself and I've never needed to change a part.
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They change the drag washers, all the seals, Gear oil/grease I think they change 14 things? I do all my penns and it takes time and I do replace parts as I see wear, not to mention the ugly rash the new ones get.
I send my VS reels in once a year if I think it is needed or not, I think the extra 14 dollars is a little steep and I am glad the changed it back, because 3 reels times 14 is 42 bucks
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11-10-2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassturbed
well, you do seem to be going out of your way to defend van staal when they should be doing that themselves...particularly when they are trying to sneak through a price increase.
i understand you are a retailer but come on.
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I'm not just defending Van Staal I was trying to clear up the confusion as a retailer. I have an interest in what happens to people who have bought reels from the SWE or may do so.
If I tell people to send emails directly, I'm accused of hiding something, if I post publicly about VS people jump on it.
As always though, no good deed goes unpunished around here...
Redsoxticket, a post regarding your PM will come soon. It's good news for you...  |
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11-10-2006, 02:29 PM
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Wipe My Bottom
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Originally Posted by Pete_G
As always though, no good deed goes unpunished around here...
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Oh woe is you. |
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11-10-2006, 08:48 PM
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Been many moons
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this forum can be brutal
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Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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11-10-2006, 11:35 PM
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Thanks for clearing everything up Pete.
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11-11-2006, 06:53 AM
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Pete I have never had it out for you sorry you feel that way but when I am wrong I am wrong and will tell you so. You on the other hand came out swinging on this one and was wrong but keep telling everone they are wrong. I think you said it best how Van Staal and perhaps you feel about others thoughts here"Online forums have never been a productive place to discuss Van Staal. Van Staal doesn't even bother for that exact reason." Agian I am sorry you feel I have it OUT for you as I do not. I was just giving MY thoughts on the thread and see that it may be wrong to do so. I will not do so ever agian on any thread you post on. Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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11-11-2006, 01:17 PM
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Been many moons
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Originally Posted by GBOUTDOORS
Agian I am sorry you feel I have it OUT for you as I do not. I was just giving MY thoughts on the thread and see that it may be wrong to do so. I will not do so ever agian on any thread you post on. Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Love it, now you act like you have been victimized & that you cannot freely post your thoughts.
If giving your thoughts means bashing someones credibility without justification, then, No, probably shouldn't share those thoughts . Some others were wrong about the situation including myself (Ill-informed ). He got a hold of the source & cleared things up. Its not a government coverup, Its a 14 dollar difference over a fishing reel. |
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While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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