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Old 02-14-2007, 08:50 PM   #91
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:08 PM   #92
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Did the search.....You've got to be kidding me?

I should be catching Z's, instead spending my nights, catching fish and letting them all go!
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:12 PM   #93
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Yeh! Now we're all having fun....

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:21 PM   #94
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Hey this riff was getting good now its petering out. What wussies.

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:51 PM   #95
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Hey this riff was getting good now its petering out. What wussies.
I just like seeing guys like you who can't resist jumping in and adding absolutely nothing.

I should be catching Z's, instead spending my nights, catching fish and letting them all go!
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:04 PM   #96
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I just like seeing guys like you who can't resist jumping in and adding absolutely nothing.

hmmm...

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Old 02-15-2007, 08:10 AM   #97
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:21 AM   #98
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just as I feel lucky to toss $25 plugs.
I feel lucky to put $25 plugs in wood chippers.

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Old 02-15-2007, 08:39 AM   #99
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:43 AM   #100
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:08 AM   #101
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:16 AM   #102
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what was this thread about?

i don't know but it's a 100 posts strong.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:17 AM   #103
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For some strange reason..I want Zee Bass now....WTF!

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Old 02-15-2007, 09:40 AM   #104
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My wife asked me what I want for my big B-day and the zbass thought crossed my mind but I just didn't think it was a good idea so I didn't mention it. Besides, I wear my fishing gear out pretty quick unless it is replaced and I can't see getting this replaced and I am sure the maintance is substantial. It is a kewl looking machine though.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:54 AM   #105
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:01 PM   #106
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My biggest concern with this reel is how dedicated Rob is to the company and how long will it be around.
...and I can't disagree with that concern. Van Staal owners sweated through this.

One small comfort one can draw if Rob K drops the project ... you'll likely have one heck of a collectible reel after the supply dries up...and there will always be an odd-job/specialty machinist out there who will whip up spare parts (for a premium).

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Old 02-15-2007, 12:54 PM   #107
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I just like seeing guys like you who can't resist jumping in and adding absolutely nothing.
I guess I am not a world traveling because I have never heard of these reels. Where do they come from?

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Old 02-15-2007, 12:59 PM   #108
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from over the bridge = who cares
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Old 02-15-2007, 01:45 PM   #109
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$1200 too much? has anyone priced out offshore/bluewater reels recently? they are not too cheap and they are still being made by several companies. there must be a good demand for them, huh? and, you normally don't buy just one. there are cheaper reels out there that may do the work, but the same reels seem to always be on tv, being stocked in tackle shops, and purchased by capts.

point? for some, money/cost is important, but having the best is just as important. i'm not saying that this zee bass reel is the best, but some may think the price assumes it is the best. that test is still being debated and to be determined, hopefully. personally, i'd like to see how the company is in a couple years and those that own this reel put it thru some hardcore fishing.

as for the price in general, if the company can get it, more power to them. it's free enterprise. it's almost double what comparable reels are running currently today. price out a top of the line caddy to a top of the line bmw, audi, vw, or mercedes. it's all in who you are targeting and if they keep buying them you keep building them.

i dont own one nor do i plan on owning one. my van staals treat me just fine. like toby, i've burned thru penn z's/greens in short time. having a reel that is dependable is a priority. we have options, many actually and this is just another one. for some a penn z works fine, or maybe a shimano stratic, but for some a totally sealed reel like a saltiga, VS or zee bass is needed. it's your money, do what it what you want.

bm, do you have any 24/0 circles? i have some great white "friends" that need to meet your grey "friends".
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:00 PM   #110
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Wow guys! Something + nothing = 108 replies. Who would of thought. The other thing that surprises me even more, is that I haven't been asked to leave yet.
I'm sorry for being a dink.

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Old 02-15-2007, 05:03 PM   #111
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Wow guys! Something + nothing = 108 replies. Who would of thought. The other thing that surprises me even more, is that I haven't been asked to leave yet.
I'm sorry for being a dink.
You have to really piss people off (like Spence has) before there will even be a poll to see if you're going to get kicked off the site.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:36 PM   #112
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This is how we solve problems on SB.com
http://googlefight.com/index.php?lan...ll+other+reels

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:53 PM   #113
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LOL! You have much to learn about boats if you think $2400 will get you very far.
In the 'dam 2400 will get you VERY FAR!!!
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:55 PM   #114
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gald when I went in 78 , 79 and 80 it didnt cost me 1200 for any of the activities you mentioned and then some . I think it was a 300 DM ($150 ) train ride
'Zackly my point.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:09 PM   #115
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bm, do you have any 24/0 circles? i have some great white "friends" that need to meet your grey "friends".
%$%$%$%$t i would havem made
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:23 AM   #116
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My biggest concern with this reel is how dedicated Rob is to the company and how long will it be around. Sure you can service it yourself, eliminating the annual VS thing, but parts do fail or need replacing over the course of time.
I remember when the future of VS was up in the air (more than once) and thinking not only can I not open this thing but where am I going to get replacement parts.

Hope everyone is having a good winter...if thats possible.
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I was waiting for someone to say it is I don't have to.Great point Bern.I think the #$ are secondary and frankly I am surprised that some of you have balls to insinuate just how stupid someone is by spending all this money.Just imagine if we are all going to be so frank with out thoughts.....someone walks up to your wife at the fishing show and asks you "you married this cow?holy crap ,I got one that weighs 3 times less and she is serving me fine".
Crude example but true.Don't mess with a mans wife of his finances.Everybody bitches about cost of VS or Z's but I don't see many driving around in Hyundai 4x4 or Suzuki.Noooo ,its the #%^&* Denali and Expeditions that are on the beach.Lets stop being hypocrites and not comment on what someone else spend their hard earned money on.
After 18 years in construction I got frostbitten last week.Hurts like a motherf#$%^ but its part of life ,bills need to be paid and after I come home and soak my feet to bring my internal temperature up and stop shivering ,if I feel a need to hug another VS or Z ,its my choice.
Anyway ,the point Bern made is absolutely true.I remember the days when we didn't know if our VS reels are to be an expensive toy with no parts in the future.Rob was the man at the helm at the time and he must takes responsibility for what happened at VS.Like many said ,you cant possibly sing praise to any product after few months regardless how good it looks,it needs to be tested.So my issues is not with $ or product is with the actual person behind it ,is he going to be around to guide this product into the future ? The man is obviously brilliant engineer ,there is no doubt about that....
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Lets not carried away with what some "pro's" have been spreading around about superiority of Z's vs VS.I got no skin in this game ,I use VS and would but Z if its more affordable and bigger in size ,so I am neutral when it comes to my allegiance to either products.However some guys are stepping over the boundaries and after demanding free reels from one manufacturer and being denied they threaten to go to another and get this "badmouth" the one that denied them multiple free reels.So much for being representative of the sport ....................and so much about their opinions being worth a bag of beans
Anyway , my index finger is getting sore plus I got to get my but on the deck job.Should be fun today on job with no shin ,right on east river where there is a wind tunnel so hard that most time we cannot even hold on to our material.Well just burn some more pressure treated wood and gather around the flames to warm out hands and breed all those wonderful chemicals.
And for what.........to get another VS or Z ?

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Old 02-16-2007, 06:51 AM   #117
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Did the search.....You've got to be kidding me?
There have been more than a few instances in the last couple years where people here have reeled in a seal bitten bass or just had the bass intercepted and eaten - some good fish too..

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Old 02-16-2007, 07:41 AM   #118
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well i usually keep my mouth shut, but since i am feeling a little lite headed after skiing the 4 ft of snow we just recieved,here is my thoughts.i really don't give a chit what anyone wants to spend on a reel or a plug or a car or what ever ,it doesn't really impress me at all.i fish beat up plugs penn z's,ski on skiis i get from freinds who are in the business. and i do just fine. what pisses me off are those that have to flaunt how much they spent on what ever and still can't fish or ski worth a damn.with the holiday week fast approaching all the beaters will bearrivind here in VT.with there high priced suv's expensive ski gear and will destoy some of the best skiing in years because they don't know how to ski. these same people are the ones i see fishing down the cape and LI with theier expensive fishing gear and not having a clue.if i thought that a VS or Z would would improve my fishing i would be the first in line to buy one .
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:43 PM   #119
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don,t have one nor do i want to buy one,,, far too expensive for this fisherman

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Old 02-16-2007, 04:58 PM   #120
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Wow guys! Something + nothing = 108 replies. Who would of thought. The other thing that surprises me even more, is that I haven't been asked to leave yet.
I'm sorry for being a dink.

Could you not leave this site till the fish come back?

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