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04-07-2007, 05:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Cowboys
I was swimming a cowboy I just spun. It swam great. I questioned the roll. Nose down, tail kicking but the roll. So I took a BM cowboy a friend bought at the show. Guess what , it rolls just the same. So my question is #1 how are they suppose to swim, top or dive, #2 roll, and when to use them. I spun mine from alaskan cedar, the blank weighs 3.1 oz. The BM weighs 3.5oz. complete. Measured out the same. What wood is The BN . White cedar? My plug weighs w/ hardware 4.4 no hooks. Well it swims PISSA. Suggestions anyone?
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Billy D.
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04-07-2007, 06:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Suffolk Co NY
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The one Cowboy in my inventory swims the same way. What's the problem? Everything sounds like it's doing what it should.
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04-07-2007, 06:27 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
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What's a cowboy? There are only rod builders here..LOL
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04-07-2007, 09:55 PM
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Sorry I must of been brain dead. Jumping forum to forum today.
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Billy D.
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04-07-2007, 09:56 PM
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How do I move it to Plug Building?
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Billy D.
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04-07-2007, 10:43 PM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
How do I move it to Plug Building?
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PM a moderator
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04-08-2007, 05:47 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
I was swimming a cowboy I just spun. It swam great. I questioned the roll. Nose down, tail kicking but the roll. So I took a BM cowboy a friend bought at the show. Guess what , it rolls just the same. So my question is #1 how are they suppose to swim, top or dive, #2 roll, and when to use them. I spun mine from alaskan cedar, the blank weighs 3.1 oz. The BM weighs 3.5oz. complete. Measured out the same. What wood is The BN . White cedar? My plug weighs w/ hardware 4.4 no hooks. Well it swims PISSA. Suggestions anyone?
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It is pine. It has two 8-10 grain weights in the belly. It is a subsurface plug meant for current so assessing roll while wallowing on top is misleading. Is your lip shaped exactly the same? That has more to do with roll than the body. The originals didn't have eyes which (along with a solid color) makes roll much less of an issue.
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04-08-2007, 07:28 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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2 belly weights on that plug .. you weight it ,, How about some pics .?
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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04-10-2007, 08:50 PM
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I used one 8 gram belly weight. The Bm version 2007 seems to have 1 weight in the bellyand eyes. I couldn't see any other weight impressions suggesting an additional weight.
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Billy D.
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04-11-2007, 12:16 AM
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Wave Jumper
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On The Edge!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
I was swimming a cowboy I just spun. It swam great. I questioned the roll. Nose down, tail kicking but the roll. So I took a BM cowboy a friend bought at the show. Guess what , it rolls just the same. So my question is #1 how are they suppose to swim, top or dive, #2 roll, and when to use them. I spun mine from alaskan cedar, the blank weighs 3.1 oz. The BM weighs 3.5oz. complete. Measured out the same. What wood is The BN . White cedar? My plug weighs w/ hardware 4.4 no hooks. Well it swims PISSA. Suggestions anyone?
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I suggest you spin one for all of us and we'll test them for you! 
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Insanity is a long and winding road ... I think I finally made it there.
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04-11-2007, 07:37 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
I used one 8 gram belly weight. The Bm version 2007 seems to have 1 weight in the bellyand eyes. I couldn't see any other weight impressions suggesting an additional weight.
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There is a second weight in there. The first is centered between the belly hooks, the second is 3/4" on center behind it. The lip you used may also be an issue. You would have to cut it yourself. There is not a commerically available lip that is identical to the one in a cowboy.
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04-11-2007, 07:48 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
There is a second weight in there. The first is centered between the belly hooks, the second is 3/4" on center behind it. The lip you used may also be an issue. You would have to cut it yourself. There is not a commerically available lip that is identical to the one in a cowboy.
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I used to NJ Tackle A-40 lip, if that helps. I had to adjust weighting, but Damn it looks good in the water.
Don't get too hung up on your Cowboy being exactly like the BM. If it swims good and does what YOU want and the fish like it, that is what really matters
On my Jr's I used a lefty-2 high slot (again NJT)
Mess around with yours, that's the fun of it.
I made 2 different versions of the Cowboy. One is subsurface, like the orig. The other is a surface swimmer, with allot of @ss shakin'
My Jr's I went w/3... surface, sub-surface, and deep diving.
All swim great but for different conditions/areas.
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